Blue collar blaser

[mdwest]

im betting it sells a good bit below MSRP...

The Savage website says MSRP on a 110 Hunter is $759... You can find them for $650 all day long at large retailers like Buds.. Cabelas actually has them on sale right now for $469....

My guess is they will hit the shelves initially just over $1K... but if you give it a year they will be getting sold a good bit cheaper ($800-$900?)... and if they dont initially sell well... they might go a good bit cheaper than that..

Im curious at this point.. but definitely dont see myself rushing out to buy one just yet... I think I'll watch the price and watch reviews for the next year... see how people like it.. and see what the REAL cost is going to be... then I might be a potential customer..

For now, Im just "curious"

 

[CoElkHunter]

im betting it sells a good bit below MSRP...

The Savage website says MSRP on a 110 Hunter is $759... You can find them for $650 all day long at large retailers like Buds.. Cabelas actually has them on sale right now for $469....

My guess is they will hit the shelves initially just over $1K... but if you give it a year they will be getting sold a good bit cheaper ($800-$900?)... and if they dont initially sell well... they might go a good bit cheaper than that..

Im curious at this point.. but definitely dont see myself rushing out to buy one just yet... I think I'll watch the price and watch reviews for the next year... see how people like it.. and see what the REAL cost is going to be... then I might be a potential customer..

For now, Im just "curious"

+1. Like you, I’ll wait for some objective reviews before I reach my own conclusions, but it is kind of an intriguing rifle concept at that price point? I remember when the first Glock clones were being manufactured (and still are) by various companies and many of them were/are well built at a lower price point. Not that in this case the Savage would be even close to the quality of a Blaser, but for the average hunter/shooter who desires something new/different? Time will tell.

 

[Red Leg]

+1. Like you, I’ll wait for some objective reviews before I reach my own conclusions, but it is kind of an intriguing rifle concept at that price point? I remember when the first Glock clones were being manufactured (and still are) by various companies and many of them were/are well built at a lower price point. Not that in this case the Savage would be even close to the quality of a Blaser, but for the average hunter/shooter who desires something new/different? Time will tell.

This thing isn't really much of a clone of a Blaser.

I think most Blaser R8 owners will tell you that a rapid second shot is not at the top of the list when describing the attributes of the rifle. One of the things that makes a Blaser R8 so instinctively usable is its "compact" ergonomic design. Unlike this rifle which has traditional positioning of the trigger, the trigger group on the Blaser is underneath the magazine. This makes for an extremely compact action and thus rifle which still retains a normal length barrel for caliber.

Second, of course is its transportability. A rifle with scope and extra different caliber barrel and scope fit into a carrier about the same dimensions of that of a double rifle. That is a lot of capability in a normal checked luggage sized container.

Third, is indeed that caliber interchangeability without the necessity of re-sighting in the rifle (or dragging along a second rifle).

Number four for me is the rapid second shot with inherent quick target reacquisition.

However, if the straight pull is at the top of a buyer's list, then this rifle might very well be of interest. One seems to be getting a basic Savage (that odd trigger, Savage barrel lockup, and a rail mount) coupled to an innovative action and very innovative bolt handle.

 

[CoElkHunter]

This thing isn't really much of a clone of a Blaser.

I think most Blaser R8 owners will tell you that a rapid second shot is not at the top of the list when describing the attributes of the rifle. One of the things that makes a Blaser R8 so instinctively usable is its "compact" ergonomic design. Unlike this rifle which has traditional positioning of the trigger, the trigger group on the Blaser is underneath the magazine. This makes for an extremely compact action and thus rifle which still retains a normal length barrel for caliber.

Second, of course is its transportability. A rifle with scope and extra different caliber barrel and scope fit into a carrier about the same dimensions of that of a double rifle. That is a lot of capability in a normal checked luggage sized container.

Third, is indeed that caliber interchangeability without the necessity of re-sighting in the rifle (or dragging along a second rifle).

Number four for me is the rapid second shot with inherent quick target reacquisition.

However, if the straight pull is at the top of a buyer's list, then this rifle might very well be of interest. One seems to be getting a basic Savage (that odd trigger, Savage barrel lockup, and a rail mount) coupled to an innovative action and very innovative bolt handle.

Yes, all great points! I didn’t mean to infer this new Savage is a Blaser clone as with the Glock example. I only meant the Savage’s straight pull action is similar in design to the Blaser. The Blaser’s other attributes will not be found on the Savage and rightfully so with the price point difference.

 

[AZDAVE]

As a old gun enthusiast have shot most all the rifle actions out there. have a fair bit experience shooting original straight pulls (Steyr Mannlicher M95, and K31's) . I have handled the blaser straight pulls, but no any experience shooting or hunting with them. So an american made rifle slated for american market will be an option worth considering.

Savage rifles (I have a couple) aren't the prettiest but shoot well and it will be a different market than a person looking at one of the more refined European offerings. So It will be interesting to see what the first shooters get their hands on one and write up a honest review.

 

[meigsbucks]

Everyone makes great points. I give credit to Savage for its innovation. Is it a Blaser? No. But who cares. It is a straight pull action at a price point in line with most major manufacture’s rifles. Yet it has the uniqueness of the straight pull.
My dad bought me my first rifle, a .22 Browning T-Bolt, when I was eleven. Thus I’ve always had a “thing” for the straight pull concept to the point I’m planning on purchasing a R8 in the near future. Am I a 1%’er? Hell no, but with planning and saving I can make it happen. The Savage however, gives the average guy the option of trying something new and as several have previously stated, may aspire to upgrade to a Blaser at some point.

 

[Hogpatrol]

Today was the official introduction day. Has some interesting features like adjustable trigger and stock and a 20 MOA integral rail.

Savage Arms

Savage Arms

www.savagearms.com

 

[BeeMaa]

 

[Alaska Luke]

I wonder if the stocks, barrels and other accessories for a regular turn bolt Savage will work for these? That might help it to be less of a nitch rifle. If it looks and handles the same and uses most of the same parts what’s not to like?

 

[CoElkHunter]

I wonder if the stocks, barrels and other accessories for a regular turn bolt Savage will work for these? That might help it to be less of a nitch rifle. If it looks and handles the same and uses most of the same parts what’s not to like?

Good point! I’ll bet in an inexpensive mass produced rifle like the Savage, most if not all are interchangeable?

 

[sgt_zim]

I wonder if the stocks, barrels and other accessories for a regular turn bolt Savage will work for these? That might help it to be less of a nitch rifle. If it looks and handles the same and uses most of the same parts what’s not to like?

Hopefully, because right now, their selection of calibers is pretty weak. they do offer them in 30-06, so a re-barrel to 280 AI shouldn't be a big deal.

 

[Alaska Luke]

Sgt_zim I was thinking of fiberglass stock and a light 35 Whelen barrel as a bear gun. But it will be a while before I can experiment with such things.

 

[CoElkHunter]

Hopefully, because right now, their selection of calibers is pretty weak. they do offer them in 30-06, so a re-barrel to 280 AI shouldn't be a big deal.

Well, they don't have it YET in .338WM either, but one can only hope?

 

[Bob Nelson 35Whelen]

Sgt_zim I was thinking of fiberglass stock and a light 35 Whelen barrel as a bear gun. But it will be a while before I can experiment with such things.

@Alaska Luke
Mate I have a Stevens 200 aka savage 110 rebarreled to 35 Whelan I took to Namibia. If'n you want some real stomp out of your Whelen load it with 250grain Speer hotcore and CFE223 for 2,700 fps and 4,000 plus for of muzzle energy.
That should put a lot of hurt on them for you.
Bob

 

[Bob Nelson 35Whelen]

Well, they don't have it YET in .338WM either, but one can only hope?

@CoElkHunter
Maaaate when am I going to educate you and get you to leave the little 338 alone and graduate to a time honoured classic like the 35 Whelen. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.
Bob

 

[bruce moulds]

35 whelen,
little brother to 9.3x64.
bruce.

 

[mark-hunter]

What is interesting, or might get intersting is:
This is supposed to be first straigh pull bolt action, american made for US market, for working and middle class.

To me it is interesting how come, that nobody in USA hasnt come up with this or similar design earlier?
Upon modern commercial gunwriting business, even zombie gun in USA is invented before! (even in overall lack of zombies)

US market, in modern times has been flooded with long range accurate rifle.
Before that with ar15 platforms.
Before that with everything else.

What is missing till now is really a straight pull rifle, american made for blue collar class. (american made, for american sentiment of working and middle class)

This rifle, if the concept gets accepted by American shooting public, might just be a break trough in such market environment.
We will see how it goes.

 

[bruce moulds]

maybe it is just not needed.
however the marketing machine will do its best to make people think they do need it.
these guns in 6.5 creedmoor might be just the ticket for the manbun/latte/hipster set. but only if they have a tuner and a muzzle brake as std. accurate, no recoil, and fast shooting so when you miss the 1st shot you can really pump lead.
if you can repeat too fast, just slow down the rate of fire with the thumbhole stock version as blazer have pioneered.
bruce.

 

[CoElkHunter]

maybe it is just not needed.
however the marketing machine will do its best to make people think they do need it.
these guns in 6.5 creedmoor might be just the ticket for the manbun/latte/hipster set. but only if they have a tuner and a muzzle brake as std. accurate, no recoil, and fast shooting so when you miss the 1st shot you can really pump lead.
if you can repeat too fast, just slow down the rate of fire with the thumbhole stock version as blazer have pioneered.
bruce.

Bruce,
I agree with all of the above. But not needed? Ha! The 6.5 w/muzzle brake crowd WILL need this rifle, especially at it's price point. Just as they need the Iphone 12, expensive coffee, premium crafted beer, electric cars, etc. It's the latest and in their mind greatest, and they'll just buy them as quick as their Covid stimulus checks make it into their bank accounts. Hopefully, Savage will export them to OZ and you and Bob can experience the new rifle revolution. Ha! Ha! Ha!
CEH

 

[Bob Nelson 35Whelen]

35 whelen,
little brother to 9.3x64.
bruce.

@bruce moulds
Mate that8.5x55 sounds like it about the s a me as your beloved 64. Sounds like it could be the ducks guts.
Neck it down to 35 and it could be a short 358 Norma. Now that sounds interesting.
Bob