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[Brent in Az]

I'm on my way.....

 

[Red Leg]

For those of us who were merely concerned or skeptical about the effectiveness of mRNA vaccines to those certain anyone who took it would be dead within two years , it is important to continue to inform ourselves about what actual data is showing. This is particularly true as enough time has passed to have meaningful statistical information. It is important to be aware that the right can occasionally be as bat shit crazy as the left.

Note that the size of this study includes 22.7 million individuals - somewhat larger than the typical political poll. The summary is up front.

"Vaccinated adults had a 74 percent lower risk of dying from Covid-19, and a 25 percent lower risk of dying period."

To offer some credit where due, Citizen Free Press, which has assumed the role of most read news aggregator on the right from Drudge, is featuring this article this morning.

French study on mRNA COVID-19 vaccines finds a drop in severe COVID—and no increase in deaths​

Vaccinated adults had a 74 percent lower risk of dying from COVID-19—and a 25 percent lower risk of dying, period.

reason.com

 

[Katy Darren]

Did you hear the number of kids killed by the vaccine released recently?

For most, the argument was never that it might not be good for those most at risk to take the vaccine, same as the founder of mRNA stated, it was that it was rushed and mandated for all and all the repercussions from that any side effects be damned. Follow the money.

 

[fourfive8]

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Less we forget, simultaneous to the lbgtq1a-furry donkey lmnop community giving dopey Joe their award

 

[Red Leg]

Did you hear the number of kids killed by the vaccine released recently?

For most, the argument was never that it might not be good for those most at risk to take the vaccine, same as the founder of mRNA stated, it was that it was rushed and mandated for all and all the repercussions from that any side effects be damned. Follow the money.

I think we afford far too much attention to what we "hear" and far too little to actual verified, peer-reviewed data. To date, there is no such verified information with respect to increased child mortality caused by any of the mRNA vaccines.

If I may offer a Grok AI summation of the allegation, "the belief that mRNA vaccines cause child mortality appears to stem from a combination of misinformation, misinterpretation of data, and advocacy by anti-vaccine groups, dating back to the early rollout of these vaccines in 2021. It has been amplified over time through social media, blogs, and public figures, often relying on correlation rather than established causation."

The most recent aha "evidence," to which I assume you are referring, is a leaked internal memo from FDA vaccine division director Vinay Prasad claiming an agency review linked at least 10 child deaths to COVID vaccines, possibly from myocarditis or other issues. This has fueled renewed speculation, with some interpreting it as official admission of harm. However, the memo provided no detailed evidence, data, or methodologies, and experts have criticized it as unsubstantiated, potentially based on unverified VAERS entries rather than causal proof.

Whether the information is true, false, or exaggerated, neither you nor I have any idea. What we do know is that it is being sensationalized on one side of the internet and dismissed on the other. I would suggest waiting until actual supporting evidence is available before jumping to any conclusions.

The sad thing about this sort of group think, which is a characteristic of every conspiracy theory, is that any evidence that the original assumption was false or exaggerated is taken as "proof" that the truth is being covered up by powerful forces - political or economic.

 

[fourfive8]

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Here ya go! Make us proud Joe!

 

[Wheels]

The State Department looks to be changing its policy towards the EU when it comes to fining American companies.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1997265474745229754

 

[BlueFlyer]

'This was a wanted pregnancy': The mothers facing prosecution in Trump's America

In the wake of widespread abortion bans, US prosecutors launch hundreds of cases charging people with crimes related to their pregnancy, miscarriage, stillbirth or birth.

www.abc.net.au

 

[fourfive8]

Tampon Tim Pez dispenser in men’s room in SEATAC airport this year. To think, almost VP. But nooooo…. Trump, Vance, Hegseth, etc. trying to rid the hemisphere of deadly drugs and those who push them are the problem.

 

[Saul]

Trump’s Middle East Order

The president's transactional style is well suited to the region.

www.foreignaffairs.com

I do not necessarily agree with everything in the above article, but it is an interesting perspective.

 

[Tanks]

A decent analysis of Trump vis-à-vis Putin

Putin Lives by a Code Trump Doesn’t Understand — The Atlantic

Where Trump sees a deal, Putin sees submission.

apple.news

 

[Corey0372]

Oh so they knew who was on the boat and where it was going? And there was a JAG there every step of the way? And the guys on the boat were confirmed to be “affiliated with a cartel designated by the president as a terrorist organization.”?

Hmmm.... Seems like Dan Cain and Adm. Bradley may have some idea of how to do this stuff.

Something about F3EAD?? IDK sounds made up to me, maybe it was the name of the fishing tournament those guys were bombing when they got lucky and hit a drug boat.

If people don't know Dan Cain's background its worth a look.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/na...ged-drug-boat-was-list-military-ta-rcna247767

 

[Saul]

I genuinely find this whole conversation very enlightening. This is an area of law that is so rarely discussed and I am grateful for the wealth of expertise available on this forum.

 

[Brent in Az]

It's ironic how the Democrats want the rule of law only when it applies to the other side.

 

[spike.t]

US vaccine panel votes to end universal hepatitis B vaccination for newborns

Trump, who called the decision "very good", has directed the health department to look into making more changes to childhood vaccinations.

www.bbc.com

 

[fourfive8]

Watched Tampon Tim on camera yesterday explaining the difference between corruption and fraud… while pointing out how well Meeneesoatah is being run. What a master of charlatan gaslighting! Saddest part is he and others just like him keep getting elected. Dem politicians learn to pathologically lie early on and those voting for them and covering for them want and expect them to continue to do so. Simple explanation - The end justifies any means for those with TDS.

 

[Katy Darren]

I think we afford far too much attention to what we "hear" and far too little to actual verified, peer-reviewed data. To date, there is no such verified information with respect to increased child mortality caused by any of the mRNA vaccines.

If I may offer a Grok AI summation of the allegation, "the belief that mRNA vaccines cause child mortality appears to stem from a combination of misinformation, misinterpretation of data, and advocacy by anti-vaccine groups, dating back to the early rollout of these vaccines in 2021. It has been amplified over time through social media, blogs, and public figures, often relying on correlation rather than established causation."

The most recent aha "evidence," to which I assume you are referring, is a leaked internal memo from FDA vaccine division director Vinay Prasad claiming an agency review linked at least 10 child deaths to COVID vaccines, possibly from myocarditis or other issues. This has fueled renewed speculation, with some interpreting it as official admission of harm. However, the memo provided no detailed evidence, data, or methodologies, and experts have criticized it as unsubstantiated, potentially based on unverified VAERS entries rather than causal proof.

Whether the information is true, false, or exaggerated, neither you nor I have any idea. What we do know is that it is being sensationalized on one side of the internet and dismissed on the other. I would suggest waiting until actual supporting evidence is available before jumping to any conclusions.

The sad thing about this sort of group think, which is a characteristic of every conspiracy theory, is that any evidence that the original assumption was false or exaggerated is taken as "proof" that the truth is being covered up by powerful forces - political or economic.

I was referencing the recent comments by the head of the FDA. Doesn’t matter, I already felt mandating a too little tested new technology to a group that was not at risk violated the first do no harm credo. My main point was primarily the asinine mandate, especially for kids.

So you appear to disagree with that? Mandating it for children was a-ok?

 

[Red Leg]

I was referencing the recent comments by the head of the FDA. Doesn’t matter, I already felt mandating a too little tested new technology to a group that was not at risk violated the first do no harm credo. My main point was primarily the asinine mandate, especially for kids.

So you appear to disagree with that? Mandating it for children was a-ok?

I am in no way defending the steps taken by this and most western governments - particularly once it became obvious that the death rate from covid was far lower than anticipated by the initial modelling and largely confined to at risk groups. What I am concerned about is that the reactions to those mandates have been equally exaggerated by the new anti-vax movement. Like most things, the truth is something else again. Unfortunately, once people choose a side, they are unwilling to entertain any alternative information - however compelling. I find the French study very compelling, but I am rather skeptical that our current Secretary of Health and Human Services is likely to review it.

To date, the only statistical "release" about children being harmed by mRNA vaccines has been the unvetted memo leaked from Dr. Vinay Prasad. Commissioner Makary has publicly confirmed the agency is investigating these reports and reviewing the autopsies, stating that these were "kids who died immediately after getting the Covid shot."

Upon review of that investigation, I would hope and expect a refinement in guidance with regard to children.

 

[sgt_zim]