Any Appetite for a New <$10K Double?

[Tradmark]

As far as beginner guns vs “elite” doubles, any double that is accurate, well regulated and hits what u aim at is a good gun.

 

[Mtn_Infantry]

All these comments about how they’d buy one at $10k and there’s one still a true African Rimmed Caliber for sale here for $10.5k. Should’ve been a line of “I’ll take it” comments based on this thread

 

[HookMeUpII]

All these comments about how they’d buy one at $10k and there’s one still a true African Rimmed Caliber for sale here for $10.5k. Should’ve been a line of “I’ll take it” comments based on this thread

Can you link the ad?

 

[Mtn_Infantry]

Can you link the ad?

 

[Russ16]

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I actually don’t find that the search function works very well. I sometimes put in what I know to be the exact thread title and it gives me no results.

 

[Mtn_Infantry]

I actually don’t find that the search function works very well. I sometimes put in what I know to be the exact thread title and it gives me no results.

That’s why the Classified section is also in the image. There’s an entire section for items that are for sals or for trade. You don’t just need to search you can go to that section and see recent posts, including that ad

 

[JHT]

Can you link the ad?

Thread 'For Sale Chapuis Brousse double rifle 470NE'

May 31, 2025

Hi all,
I’m looking to sell my Chapuis Brousse 470 NE double rifle. I bought it used in 2017 from William Larkin Moore and Sons. They said that it was made in 2005, hunted with some, and had taken a buffalo. I haven’t hunted with it since I’ve owned it, just shot it a handful of times. This rifle has ejectors as well. It comes with a Plano lockable hard case, its original case and paperwork from Chapuis, a 470 ne cleaning kit from African sporting creations, two snap caps, and a leather galco belt ammo...

• Voodooracer
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[HookMeUpII]

Thread 'For Sale Chapuis Brousse double rifle 470NE'

May 31, 2025

Hi all,
I’m looking to sell my Chapuis Brousse 470 NE double rifle. I bought it used in 2017 from William Larkin Moore and Sons. They said that it was made in 2005, hunted with some, and had taken a buffalo. I haven’t hunted with it since I’ve owned it, just shot it a handful of times. This rifle has ejectors as well. It comes with a Plano lockable hard case, its original case and paperwork from Chapuis, a 470 ne cleaning kit from African sporting creations, two snap caps, and a leather galco belt ammo...

• Voodooracer
• Replies: 38
• Forum: Classifieds

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Thank you. That's a great rifle for that price.

 

[IA1865]

I think the idea bears merit, and we might need to view this through a slightly different lense. Many of the commenters on this forum fall squarely into the deep end of the enthusiast category and have suggested some very interesting, but not readily available options for chambering. I don't necessarily think the target market here is for someone as well versed in the double market to buy a used Chapuis, Heym, etc., but rather someone looking for their first double for a first DG safari. Guided hunts in the US have skyrocketed in cost to a degree where an African safari has become something of a budget play (obviously there are degrees of cost here). Certainly there's been a definite surge in interest over the past few years and the outfitters I've talked to are seeing strong growth in first time safari clients.

I certainly see the appeal for the .45-70 for Alaska, and the .375 H&H would seem to be almost table stakes for an African chambering. If we look at ammo availability, I always see .375 and .416 ruger in stock and there's plenty of availability on Ammoseek for both. Hornady has done a great job in reviving production for some African calibers and seems to be developing new ones to fit the mold, might make sense to pursue a partnership with them. Given what I think the target market will be here, the end user is likely not someone who will have a reloading setup for some relatively obscure African round and will just value ready availability in their regulated load.

Envisioning the experience of a first time buyer here, you could make an add-on package (again, partnership with Hornady could make a ton of sense) where the customer can purchase 200 rounds of the regulated load and an afternoon of instruction. Thinking of the clientele and the physical points of sale for Chapuis near me, this is something I absolutely see selling well at the Beretta Gallery in Dallas, potentially with a partnership with Dallas Gun Club or ETTS where you could set up a bay with buffalo targets or something and help the client get used to shooting off sticks and such.

 

[9Point3]

Forgive the ask, what does well regulated mean for bullet POI (meaning both bullets) in terms of distance in meters or yards? Are we talking about less than or equal to 50 yards or a greater distance?

 

[VertigoBE]

Forgive the ask, what does well regulated mean for bullet POI (meaning both bullets) in terms of distance in meters or yards? Are we talking about less than or equal to 50 yards or a greater distance?

Well regulated for double rifles for me means:

- for .375H&H and smaller calibers, 4 consecutive shots, 2 from each barrel in Right-Left-Right-Left order, all within a 2 inch diameter circle at 100m

- for >375H&H, 4 consecutive shots, 2 from each barrel in Right-Left-Right-Left order, all within a 2 inch diameter circle at 50m

Better is of course nice to have as well.

 

[Ranchhand 59]

Thanks, gentlemen--lots of food for thought. So far, it seems that .375 and .450-400 may be the way to go. Please let me know which red-dot mount to offer. I'm thinking RMR, but if you have any other suggestion (one poster said Docter) I'm here to listen!

Keep me posted

 

[odonata]

This has been a very interesting thread. I don't "need" a double but that's never stopped me from wanting one. That may change as I transition into retirement next year depending on where I go & what I start hunting. Earlier this month I had posted a similar question about what forum members would want in a limited run of Ruger rifles & I got a lot of similar responses.

I predicted in the initial post that coming to a unified consensus would be a challenge & this proved to be true. While I appreciated everyone's responses, there were a lot of suggestions that involved exotic chamberings or wildcats that had no commercial ammo offerings or scarce brass, rounds that were too long for the magazine, requests to resurrect defunct rifle models, etc. In other words, a lot of the wishlist involved suggestions that weren't easily workable given all of the practical constraints that had to be considered. Specifically that a special offering needs to have a certain level of broad appeal to remain affordable (i.e. a large group of people need to all want the same rifle).

Based on the feedback I got here, plus other conversations with dealers, salesmen, safari-goers, etc., I am now gravitating towards .375 H&H and .450-400 for the <$10,000 double offering, scrapping therefore the .45-70.

I always appreciate it when a commercial vendor attempts to provide me with unique or useful products. This choice seems like a practical & doable option. The ability to use a widely-available commercial ammo offering as a standard to regulate against would be possible with these chamberings to accommodate people who don't reload.

- I would love to offer a double in .303--heck, I introduced the Uberti Courteney in that caliber!--but I'm afraid the minimum order quantity would make it unfeasible, since it would be a brand-new caliber for them.

Just out of curiosity, what is the minimum order quantity for a project like this? Not having any knowledgeable insight into the decision-making process, it would be interesting to know how high that threshold is (if that is sharable information or currently even defined).

What's the obsession with .303 in a dbl rifle?
Genuinely curious question.

For me personally, I have a nostalgic fondness for the 303 British and own two single-shot falling blocks in that chambering. While I understand that many hunters want a larger DG double, I would love to have a 7x57r, 303 British or 9.3x74r. A smaller rimmed cartridge in a classic chambering has a lot of appeal. The big draw of the 303 British for me is that while companies like Rigby & WR made them many years ago, finding a nice affordable one now would be a bit of a challenge. The Westley Richards in 303 British below was regulated for 215gr soft point bullets (I think going ~2100 fps) instead of the 174gr Kynoch in the picture. Loading up some Woodleigh 68's today would make for a very classic setup that I would love to go hunting with.

Here's a Rigby in 303 British from the same era. I like it!

 

[9Point3]

A double in 9.3x74R sounds interesting to be as a first double. It could serve in the US and Africa.

 

[wvfred]

I still want one in 450 NE.

 

[Flbt]

This has been a very interesting thread. I don't "need" a double but that's never stopped me from wanting one. That may change as I transition into retirement next year depending on where I go & what I start hunting. Earlier this month I had posted a similar question about what forum members would want in a limited run of Ruger rifles & I got a lot of similar responses.

I predicted in the initial post that coming to a unified consensus would be a challenge & this proved to be true. While I appreciated everyone's responses, there were a lot of suggestions that involved exotic chamberings or wildcats that had no commercial ammo offerings or scarce brass, rounds that were too long for the magazine, requests to resurrect defunct rifle models, etc. In other words, a lot of the wishlist involved suggestions that weren't easily workable given all of the practical constraints that had to be considered. Specifically that a special offering needs to have a certain level of broad appeal to remain affordable (i.e. a large group of people need to all want the same rifle).

I always appreciate it when a commercial vendor attempts to provide me with unique or useful products. This choice seems like a practical & doable option. The ability to use a widely-available commercial ammo offering as a standard to regulate against would be possible with these chamberings to accommodate people who don't reload.

Just out of curiosity, what is the minimum order quantity for a project like this? Not having any knowledgeable insight into the decision-making process, it would be interesting to know how high that threshold is (if that is sharable information or currently even defined).

For me personally, I have a nostalgic fondness for the 303 British and own two single-shot falling blocks in that chambering. While I understand that many hunters want a larger DG double, I would love to have a 7x57r, 303 British or 9.3x74r. A smaller rimmed cartridge in a classic chambering has a lot of appeal. The big draw of the 303 British for me is that while companies like Rigby & WR made them many years ago, finding a nice affordable one now would be a bit of a challenge. The Westley Richards in 303 British below was regulated for 215gr soft point bullets (I think going ~2100 fps) instead of the 174gr Kynoch in the picture. Loading up some Woodleigh 68's today would make for a very classic setup that I would love to go hunting with.

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Here's a Rigby in 303 British from the same era. I like it!

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Man that’s a nice rifle