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it’s only a problem when it’s the opposing views process though, isn’t it

No... Not at all... It applies to all narratives... But, there is a difference that is quite simple...

I have no problem with anyone who holds a different view from mine when they form their narrative based on tangible, credible foundations such as the application of critical thought, common sense, factual information, and opinions formed out of personal experience and not hearsay...

The problem I am referring to occurs when someone forms a narrative based on non-credible foundations formed through ignorance, indoctrination, misinformation, and emotion. When this occurs, the narrative can no longer be taken seriously in my view...
 
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No... Not at all... It applies to all narratives... But, there is a difference that is quite simple...

I have no problem with anyone who holds a different view from mine when they form their narrative based on tangible, credible foundations such as the application of critical thought, common sense, factual information, and opinions formed out of personal experience and not hearsay...

The problem I am referring to occurs when someone forms a narrative based on non-credible foundations forms through ignorance, indoctrination, misinformation, and emotion. When this occurs, the narrative can no longer be taken seriously in my view...
Fair enough,

But one man’s freedom fighter is another man’s terrorist.
 
Fair enough,

But one man’s freedom fighter is another man’s terrorist.

Now you're talking about perspective which is not the same as narrative...

I agree with you to the extent that some perspectives are often formed from personal experience which is a credible foundation...
 
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I did a quick search, but I count find any of your posts condemning the unconstitutionality of the Biden Administration violating the due process of J-6er's... Where was your outrage over the denial of due process over ACTAUL American citizens?
Doesn’t going through a jury trial count as due process? How were they denied due process?
 
Two immigration judges found him to be a gang member. What more “proof” do you need when it’s already been proven in immigration court?

He did get due process in the USA. He had a hearing in immigration court and then appealed and lost his appeal. The reason he was not deported to his home country was violence from a rival gang. That problem is resolved. The USA did not jail him in his own county, his home county did that because he is a MS 13 member.
 
I see.

Democrats are funny. One would have thought that Trump was still president for the entire four years of Biden’s term based on how any and everything bad was his fault even after 2020. Now he’s also president of El Salvador. I wonder what he will be president of next?

It’d be nice if the left could decide whether he was incompetent or omnipotent.

You appeal to what is a fallacy for democrats - the myth of consistency.
 
it’s only a problem when it’s the opposing views process though, isn’t it
That would depend on what the opposing view is...for example a communist working out a set of dialectic principles deserves no standing as an equal.
 
Seems like the right is an actual enemy of the left. I don't believe we'll ever see both parties working for the good of the country and people. It's all about them and their party. :(:mad:
 
Doesn’t going through a jury trial count as due process? How were they denied due process?

I posted a link to an article a few pages back that stated the many examples of how due process was being denied on a wholesale level to the J-6 detainees... There are dozens of articles and books all over the internet documenting these egregious violations if you actually care to research in detail...

The quick summary is that going through a jury trial alone is not the entire scheme of due process... The entirety of the 1,583 defendants arrested in relation to J-6 had been held without bail. This included the vast majority who were eventually charged with simple misdemeanors which is unheard of...

Each State or District sets their own due process timeline which can range from 24-48 hours for a bail hearing and 10-20 days for an arraignment... Trials are generally set to commence within 60-100 days from the arraignments. The vast majority of those arrested were denied bail altogether, and arraignments and trials ranged from many months to years for most cases...

They were also denied their right to confer with legal counsel, timely arraignments, hearings, and a speedy trial after the arraignments eventually took place... They were also denied the right to review evidence against them and as we now have learned the evidence which was suppressed and withheld by the J-6 committee... As of January 5, 2025, 500 cases were still pending and undecided, and of those 500, 170 detainees were still awaiting trial 4 years later...

Additionally, detainees were kept in 23-hour solitary confinement in filthy cells with poor food and no opportunity to bathe. They were also denied their rights to family visitations.
 
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