Weird pre 64 Model 70

[Bynotic]

Hello,

My brother brought over a Pre 64 model 70 in .270 Win today for me to look at. It is very worn in the stock but the metal is fantastic no pitting anywhere I could see but the wood is losing its finish and the stock has a ton of deep gauges in it. the old Bausch + Lomb scope is fading and losing its blue blue the gun looks 100% original but i have never seen a pre64 model 70 have a magnum cross bolt, see the pictures. The only mention i could find was on the African models. i assume this may be some sort of vintage technique to bed the stock or the stock is incorrect. Let me know if you can help I have attached Photos.

 

[Mekaniks]

Yes, I agree someone likely installed a cross bolt in the stock or restocked it with a magnum stock....

 

[Bynotic]

Yes, I agree someone likely installed a cross bolt in the stock or restocked it with a magnum stock....

The magnum stocks I saw from google had 2 cross bolts.

 

[Roosterlund]

Same here, not factory installed. Someone had a gunsmith install. Definitely looks like custom cross bolt.

 

[Ontario Hunter]

Pull the stock and you will likely see evidence of a crack in that area. Vintage single crossbolts were typically placed ahead of the magazine, not behind it (e.g. military 98 Mausers).

 

[Ontario Hunter]

Can someone caliper outside diameter of a Model 70 cocking piece for me. Thanks.

 

[WCFMetalsmith]

FYI that is a aftermarket Talley cross bolt

 

[Ray B]

Can someone caliper outside diameter of a Model 70 cocking piece for me. Thanks.

Yes, I can.

 

[Bynotic]

Same here, not factory installed. Someone had a gunsmith install. Definitely looks like custom cross bolt.

It looks well done, looks to me like it was done years ago.

 

[Bynotic]

Pull the stock and you will likely see evidence of a crack in that area. Vintage single crossbolts were typically placed ahead of the magazine, not behind it (e.g. military 98 Mausers).

That's what i figured i don't have a tool to unscrew the cross bolt so I cant get it free from the stock right now. I wonder if someone knows anywhere to but pre64 stock take offs or where I could go to order a new one.

looks like this website works: https://pre64win.com

 

[Ontario Hunter]

That's what i figured i don't have a tool to unscrew the cross bolt so I cant get it free from the stock right now. I wonder if someone knows anywhere to but pre64 stock take offs or where I could go to order a new one.

looks like this website works: https://pre64win.com

You don't need to remove the crossbolt to remove the stock. Unscrew the two action screws on both ends of the trigger guard. Then lift the action out of the stock. Leave the crossbolt alone. It's there for a purpose. If you decide to refinish the stock, we'll get it removed then. Let's see what the inside guts of the stock look like.

 

[farrokhrt]

You don't need to remove the crossbolt to remove the stock. Unscrew the two action screws on both ends of the trigger guard. Then lift the action out of the stock. Leave the crossbolt alone. It's there for a purpose. If you decide to refinish the stock, we'll get it removed then. Let's see what the inside guts of the stock look like.

3 action screws on pre 64. 2 on recent 70 since trigger guard and floor plates are one piece. And yes the crossbolt is gunsmith work.

 

[Ray B]

I wonder if someone knows anywhere to but pre64 stock take offs or where I could go to order a new one.

If you are looking for a pre-64 factory stock, I've got a few laying around and would be happy to send one to you to see it it will work-out. Would be no charge.

 

[MS 9x56]

I am no expert on pre 64 model 70’s having only owned one, but I have never seen a cross bolt on any manufacturers rifle in 270. Definitely a curiosity.

 

[Russ16]

I am no expert on pre 64 model 70’s having only owned one, but I have never seen a cross bolt on any manufacturers rifle in 270. Definitely a curiosity.

Never seen one on a Model 70. But I have an original FN in .270 with a crossbolt.

 

[MS 9x56]

Never seen one on a Model 70. But I have an original FN in .270 with a crossbolt.

Only one crossbolt or 2?

 

[Bynotic]

If you are looking for a pre-64 factory stock, I've got a few laying around and would be happy to send one to you to see it it will work-out. Would be no charge.

If you are offering im accepting. Send me a private message.

 

[Bynotic]

You don't need to remove the crossbolt to remove the stock. Unscrew the two action screws on both ends of the trigger guard. Then lift the action out of the stock. Leave the crossbolt alone. It's there for a purpose. If you decide to refinish the stock, we'll get it removed then. Let's see what the inside guts of the stock look like.

I’ll have to try again when I get home but when I tried to remove it last night it would release from the trigger area. I did remove all three screws.

 

[Russ16]

Only one crossbolt or 2?

One. But fitter forward than the one on this rifle.

 

[Ontario Hunter]

3 action screws on pre 64. 2 on recent 70 since trigger guard and floor plates are one piece. And yes the crossbolt is gunsmith work.

Oops. Correct. I forgot.