Discussion in 'General Chat' started by Firebird, Sep 3, 2019.
Yep, that’s what I mean. Simple, things that normal people won’t use as weapons.
That's good one. It makes you wonder if shooting things with a low powered rifle is more acceptable in today's society.
Despite the fact that the rifle itself is just an object used to project a bullet to an intended point of impact.
It carries no power, the power is contained in the cartridge.
“We’ll have to make a plan” - that isn’t a plan, that’s a planless scramble without forethought
“Killin stix” and any other product advertised on outdoor TV
“Fine firearms” when referring to 90% of what people reference
“Buy a few more animals” when describing preparations for Africa
“Saving up for more animals”
“Fancy” when describing minimum-quality products
The overuse of the word “mechanical”
Overuse of the word “ethical” by bow hunters, as a prop to imply they are superior
“Had to back out” which is code for “took a terrible shot, I hope it’s dead in 12 hours”
“I can’t afford it” when the person pisses money away on everything that doesn’t matter
“Hard cast lead” - the beginning of advice that leads to wounded animals unrecovered
“Never had an issue” when defending negligent anything
Send it is for snipers? Funny, I don't remember reading about "spotters" during the last two big wars and Vietnam. Maybe the present day ones aren't that good of a shot and need a "helper"? Just wondering on that. Funny I never realized I was in their company at the range just about every time there's a couple of guys shooting assault rifles. That phrase does seem to fit them though.
Love it but..... I have to say I like “make a plan” as it infers we’ve got no idea but we’ll figure it out as we go.
Anytime someone sees any of my trophies and the first thing out of their mouth is:
What does it score?
This is from my limited time in service and only from a Marine Corps point of view. I have no knowledge on the Army/Navy side of things.. Maybe the General can comment.
The Marines operate as a team, shooter and spotter. If I remember correctly, the spotter might be the senior jarhead in the operation.
Democratic socialism... thats all i should have to say.
Carlos Hathcock had a spotter. Not anything new.
So did my step father.
Got really tired of reading "Declined" for a while there.
"Lived experience" as opposed to what kind of other experience?
I agree about the use of the word "catching " when referring to hunting. Makes me cringe. But, also any combination of words that imply hunting is about blasting some animal. The combat type expressions seems disrespectful.
I am absolutely guilty of typing "muzzle break"
One term I greatly dislike seeing is GMO. Because if you wanna be a real smartass about it, everything we eat came from a GMO since they were all genetically modified (in this case, through breeding) by humans over millenia. The only difference between modern day veggie farming and your pet dog is that with the plants, you get more reliable results through genetics. Also, just look at this chart below and tell me that's natural
In the two “big wars” there were no modern snipers, more of sharpshooters. They were not trained to stalk and hide. They used plain military rifles sometimes fitted with telescopic sights.
Captain land started the USMC sniper school during or right before the Vietnam war. From what I’ve read he had an ulterior motive in convincing the USMC they needed snipers, so the long range shooting team wouldn’t be cut from the budget. The Vietnam war came along and gave him a chance to prove snipers were a very affective military tool. This he and his sniper students did very well.
One of his snipers, Carlos Hathcock, and his spotter Cpl Burke was in my opinion, the most effective and deadliest two man team in history. Not to mention the most well known.
While it is true most used basic military rifles.. in many cases the rifles were hand selected for accuracy.. and in some cases rifles were specifically built for sniper operations... they were just very limited in terms of the number available..
While most “sharpshooters” did not receive specialized training.. there were in fact sniper schools in WWII... and there were some snipers that were incredibly skilled in stalking and hiding..
Would you not consider Simo Hayha a sniper?
Or Josef Allerberger?
Or Vasily Zaytsev?
The Germans even made snipers a separate military occupational specialty after WWI and maintained multiple sniper schools that trained their snipers in skills beyond marksmanship and stealth.. they were also trained in advanced radio communications, intelligence gathering, and a multitude of additional skills that “regular” infantrymen did not receive training in...
Yes the listed men were great snipers. I guess I was referring to Americans. The Europeans had great snipers and schools back then, the Americans not so much. The Japanese used snipers extensively, but it was common to be tied into a tree till you were killed.
Sorry about the thread hyjack
No sorry needed at all man...
Everyone loves a good conversation with some back and forth involved...
Hathcock is likely the best known of the VN snipers, and certainly a hero, but ranks about 4th or 5th in kills if I recall. Chuck Mawhinney had 103, another chap named Adelbert? had the most in VN, don't recall the number. Hathcock had 93 confirmed.
Would you agree Hathcock was the most skilled even though his confined kill count was lower. He was an MP most of his first tour and got wounded not long after starting his second.
What the hell does minty Winny mean?
Separate names with a comma.