I've had a want for a double rifle for a wile now I grew up reading about hunting Africa and a few other far off places and well now I'm old enough to do it, so I am going to. So I thought I would ask people who have been there done that. I have read a lot on here and other places on the internet. I have been looking around at the prices for new and secondhand doubles, they seem to hold their value very well being only a few thousand shy of new price. So I have been thinking if I am going to spend 15K+ on a rifle I may as well get one built for me. I have been looking at Heym and keep coming back to them. An 88-B chambered in 470NE. There are some nice rifles for sale but like I said they are near new price Here is a pretty nice looking set but for $39,500 I think I could get something fitted to me ? </title> <title> Or there is this one for $14,900. </title> <title> I don't know enough about them to know if they are good buy's or not and I'm not quite ready to buy just yet anyway. If you guys where starting out again would you buy used or go and get a rifle made for you ? You know go somewhere and get fitted ? I think I want a 470NE I have no idea why I want that particular round I just do, I have never seen one in real life and I don't know anyone who owns one I just want one. I am unsure of how much recoil they have I have used 375H&H and 458Win in Ruger No. 1 and Rem700 300RUM. I expect recoil to be stout but not unmanageable. I'm looking for a Ruger No.1 in ether 450/400 or 470NE at the moment just to see if I can shoot enough to be proficient with the round. I may reconsider the chambering, may not be as tuff as I think I plan on hunting everything with it including Elephant one day I obviously intend to travel with it a bit. We have pigs, donkey, feral cattle camels and buff over here that I can hunt amongst other things. So in short if you where to start out again knowing what you know now would you buy secondhand and sell and move onto something else or would you get a rife made to fit you ? What round would you use for a do all double ? Thanks Dave.