So I've been playing with oil finishes

I had a very good conversation with Mr. Timberluxe the other day. (I couldn't remember if I posted about this on AH yet or not...memory shot this week)

At any rate, for the grainfill, he recommends using "Klingspor" 220 grit sandpaper.

The process is: You wait until you have a few coats on the weapon and you give it a few days to harden up. You then wet sand the wood a little at a time with the 220gr, the "wet" is the timberluxe. You then use your finger to take the bit of slurry you made and you put it IN the grain. You proceed across the whole weapon and then let it dry. You may need 1-2 finishing top coats thereafter, but that is how to get a quick grainfill.

He also stated that the solids in the bottles of Timberluxe are the dulling agents. If you want high sheen, you use the bottle with the solids settled on the bottom. If you want a London satin, you shake the hell out of the bottle until the dulling agents are all in suspension before using the product.

I asked about rottonstone, carding off, and other old techniques and he stated they just aren't needed with Timberluxe. He also stated that the Timberluxe isn't a new invention, its a 150 year old gun trade recipe that allowed for good quality and fast production results. He just revived it and was using it personally for 30-40 years before he got the idea to sell it. (he's a stocker and finisher by trade)

That's what I know.
 
Just my opinion, and no offense intended, but no way in hades am I using 220 grit sandpaper on anything except last stage shaping of a new butt stock. Refinishing, I remove as absolutely little as possible and seldom enough actual wood to even measure. I do not want to alter original dimensions, unless I have a purpose to do so. (i.e. stock fitting) And by no means am I interested in fast production results.
If I ever did want to hurry up with grain filling, I would likely use a slurry made with sanding dust from another piece of walnut. I would not really sand into an original stock just to fill grain.
Other than that, nothin' but love for Rookhawk and his recommendations...
 
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@Ontario Hunter
I'm a great believer in LINSPEED, great product easy to use and gives a beautiful finish.
Bob
Linspeed has been around since I was a kid: it was the first finish I was ever exposed to by a hunting uncle. I think it needs a bit more time to dry, and needs to be dried thoroughly between coats.
 
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a quick derail if I might.. Im hoping someone might help me identify the shotgun I bought today..

the tag said it was an Aya Matador 16ga.

The serial number says it was made between 1949-1954.. but does not say WHICH model gun it is..

It is clearly a box lock with a greener crossbolt..

I definitely paid "Matador" price for it (basic gun made for the American market)..

Heres my quandary... Ive now looked at about a hundred pics of Matadors.. none of them have any engraving other than a little scroll on each side of the action..

this gun has a bird (eagle maybe?) engraved on each side.. its not particularly great engraving.. but.. it is definitely not a scroll..

Its also got 2 triggers.. some early matadors it appears had double triggers.. but most have singles..

and I cant find any reference to any matador every having anything other than the scroll on it..

No model is engraved on the barrel.. just the gauge and chokes…

any of you spanish gun experts have any idea what I might have here?

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I had one of those and didn't ever have confirmation what it was. I recognize the exact same eagle engraved on the action. In my case, the gun had automatic safety, (one strike against it) and an annoying action wherein it had to be forced open another 1/4 inch in order to load. This, I was told was to make it impossible for shells to just fall out while carrying it open. To me it was a deal breaker and the reason it wanted to live somewhere else. Who in their right mind would want to have to open the action forcibly using both hands and then hold it tightly tucked under one arm so one hand was free to load two shells, in order to catch up to an escaping rooster?
 
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Interesting post
I have a pet m70 Winchester 1954 made and it’s getting to where I have thought about refurbishing the stock, but it makes me nervous to try that,I just keep applying wax and using it to hunt
 
I had one of those and didn't ever have confirmation what it was. I recognize the exact same eagle engraved on the action. In my case, the gun had automatic safety, (one strike against it) and an annoying action wherein it had to be forced open another 1/4 inch in order to load. This, I was told was to make it impossible for shells to just fall out while carrying it open. To me it was a deal breaker and the reason it wanted to live somewhere else. Who in their right mind would want to have to open the action forcibly using both hands and then hold it tightly tucked under one arm so one hand was free to load two shells, in order to catch up to an escaping rooster?

Most AyA have the auto safety.. Im not sure thats avoidable.. Im not sure about the forced open thing though.. the gun Ive got has a very smooth open/close action to it.. its got extractors, not ejectors, which is something I'll have to get used to...

Assuming I like the gun once I start shooting it a bit, I may start looking for the same gun in 28 ga.. From a weight/feel/balance perspective Im super happy with it so far..

I'd love to find a pic of another one with the same ugly eagle on the side that mine has.. at this point Ive probably looked at 300+ No.3's using google.. all of them either have next to no engraving on them at all.. or are very ornately engraved.. I havent found another one with the same low quality eagle engraving yet.. I was starting to think it might have started life as one of the minimal engraving guns and then someone had it custom engraved..
 
Most AyA have the auto safety.. Im not sure thats avoidable.. Im not sure about the forced open thing though.. the gun Ive got has a very smooth open/close action to it.. its got extractors, not ejectors, which is something I'll have to get used to...

Assuming I like the gun once I start shooting it a bit, I may start looking for the same gun in 28 ga.. From a weight/feel/balance perspective Im super happy with it so far..

I'd love to find a pic of another one with the same ugly eagle on the side that mine has.. at this point Ive probably looked at 300+ No.3's using google.. all of them either have next to no engraving on them at all.. or are very ornately engraved.. I havent found another one with the same low quality eagle engraving yet.. I was starting to think it might have started life as one of the minimal engraving guns and then someone had it custom engraved..
I might have implied forced opening but what I can tell you is that you could not dump the two shells, fired or unfired without opening it a tad more, and it took the buttstock under the arm to hold it while you put in two more shells.
 

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