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.......... Moderation is in the eye of the beholder, ............
"(DHHS and USDA 1995).
Moderation is defined as no more than one drink per day for women
and no more than two drinks per day for men."
One definition in the literature.
Abstainer: drinks less than 0.01 fl
oz alcohol per day (i.e., fewer than
12 drinks in the past year)
Light drinker: drinks 0.01 to 0.21
fl oz alcohol per day (i.e., 1 to 13
drinks per month)
Moderate drinker: drinks 0.22 to
1.00 fl oz alcohol per day (i.e., 4 to
14 drinks per week)
Heavier drinker: drinks more than
1.00 fl oz alcohol per day (i.e.,
more than 2 drinks per day).
That's true @BRICKBURN, but one of the interesting aspects of hunting in Ethiopia is that the government takes most of the money. I have no reason to doubt my outfitter - they make more money elsewhere. They offer a similar guarantee, I believe, with Lord Derby Eland in Cameroon.I agree Simon, but that was on a very high end hunt.
I don't doubt your Outfitter either.
No Outfitter is required to provide a guarantee, but the all in price tag of Ethiopia, no matter who's skimming from the pot, might have some considering other destinations if the Outfitter was not so confident in getting the hunter this very exclusive trophy. The experience is certainly a huge part of it, but, at some point, paying large sums for a hike is daft.
Here's my take on all of this: AfricaHunting.com encourages (through advertisement) thinking that leads to all sorts of problems like this. If you want to avoid any and all of these problems:
A.) Find a really, really competent PH that has bonafides to work in many countries
B.) Have a great time with him on your first hunt.
C.) Show your loyalty by not pricing out other Africa trips with competitors because you found a really good PH in point A.) above
D.) In subsequent trips to Africa you can use the same PH, usually with a handshake and no deposits or weird contract language.
E.) You are now doing business with a friend instead of a firm.
I can't tell you how often I see references on AH for "had an amazing time", "XYZ PH was fantastic", "loved every minute!", and then 6 months later those same people are shopping for a new hunt with a different outfit. Russian roulette for all parties involved with a new relationship. Hence, PHs have silly contract rules like this thread because they have no idea if the client is a maniac.
Jumping from PH to PH without good cause from trip to trip is nothing more than "safari adultery".
Just my take.
"Safari Adultery" should be its own thread. As soon as I finished my first safari, I talked with the outfitter USA rep and had the normal follow up conversations. Mention an elephant and I got all types of quotes for exportable elephants. Told them I couldn't afford that and was wondering what they had non exportable tuskless, and basically they could do a PAC hunt that I thought was over priced. Now I feel no obligation to book with them for this hunt, as I gave them first shot and they didn't offer what I wanted. I did book with a sponsor here and had a great hunt. It all depends what you are after and what the outfitter offers.
Interesting. I have never been offered a hunt with those metrics. And I wouldn't do it if so offered.Mainly I was talking about leopard, there is a cost of doing business and maintaining camps cars etc. assuming you book a cat hunt for 25k USD with a 4K refund with for no cat. On. In most area on a 14 day hunt , it does not cost the outfitter $21,000 to operate the hunt. So even with a refund of 4K he has made a fair profit from your unsuccessful hunt.
I would rather the outfitter cover his cost of doing business with a modest profit but make the lions share of it through the trophy fee.