School me on .416 taylor

[Elkeater]

I built a 416 Taylor in 1998 out of a Ruger 77 tang safety in 458 Win it was a brutal rifle in 458 , Douglas bbl same profile as the 458 fitted the same open sights ,i got the sights from the Australian Ruger distributor & sold the 458 bbl, got Redding dies, made brass out of 458 & 338 Win it fed well, & was much more easy to shoot than the 458 . in a fit of stupidity i sold it to buy something else i now regret selling it.

I find few things worse than selling a gun and then regretting it later. As much as I like to think of guns as tools, they have far more soul than a cordless drill.

 

[rdog]

I find few things worse than selling a gun and then regretting it later. As much as I like to think of guns as tools, they have far more soul than a cordless drill.

Yes in order of attachment , my wife & kids my dog & my guns, cars & house can be replaced.

 

[Muskox]

Adore my kids and exceedingly happy with my wife. Wouldn't be able to replace them.

If the wife dies first, I am not interested in anything other than throwing rocks at women. Go hunting and work, and do stuff with my kids.

They are 10-25. Maybe when the youngest is as old as the oldest. I will stop throwing rocks at them.

 

[Jefferry404]

I read another thread about the 416 Taylor Improved and this motivated me to looked into the Redding Die I bought, 416 Taylor "standards" and the Norma cases.
Wow!
Redding confirmed their sizing die are per Manson 416 Taylor standard Magnum.
Then there is the CIP spec. that appears to follow the A-Square Manual. Ok
But when I measure photo of the Norma 416 Taylor brass, i get
neck diameter of 0.440 and neck length of 0.366 vs CIP of 0.448 and 0.416!
Now, it was commented the Improved version had steeper shoulder and a photo showed a short neck.
Below is CIP cartridge spec (with thinner neck diameter of 0.440)
and Manson Reamer (in blue)

All is good. An expanded view around the shoulder does show if a rifle is chamber with the Manson, might improve Norma brass??? Although it was mentioned that factory ammo was improved

After all this, sounds like the Norma brass and Manson reamer are matched. Would be great if one of our Illustrious Taylor aficionados could measure Norma brass neck diameter and length and base head to the start of the shoulder, I will then update the drawings Thanks
Steve

 

[Jefferry404]

Update. Just got Norma brass from Raven Rocks. thank you sir!
Measured dimensions and case capacity to see how it matched up to the Manson reamer.
Case capacity was 93.3gns, case weight 209.4gns. Not sure who came first "the chicken or the egg",
but they are a match. The reamer allows for a bit longer case length.
I should note that Redding confirmed their die is cut for the Manson reamer.
My previous post just extrapolated the case from the reamer dimensions, i was off a tad.
below shows the measured case and the reamer, much better match.
Steve

Steve