Sako 85 Or CZ

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i have bought 2 rifles over the years that would not shoot. one was a ruger, and the stock split as well, so after being told by the agent that they would do nothing about it, sold it off as spare parts.
the other was a sako 30/06.
the agent told me that the 30/06 was not noted for accuracy and refused to help in any way.
both rifles could not be relied upon to hit a foolscap page at 100 yds.
the sako was rebarreled with a hart match stainless barrel and shot like you would not believe.
it won a number of ssheutzen matches up against schultz and larson and rem 40x target rifles.
so much for 30/06 not being accurate.!!!!!
ruger seem to have improved over the years.
i would never buy another sako, believing them to be overpriced for what they are, and that part of what you pay for is the name.
i also understand that their extractor cam system has all but gone by the board, and that their recoil lugs are bolt on cheap and nasty.
then someone might know whether they are now 3 lug bolts.
this further minimizes extraction camming ability.
if they are 3 lug, far better just go buy a tikka for less money.
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My Finnbear from 60 years ago disagrees. Out f their custom shop it has the most unique bird's eye maple stock with gold, silver and ivory that I ever saw. Engraving with gold and silver on metal.

264, shoots great and my youngest son laid claim to it already so I wouldnt sell it.

Got it from an Italian immigrant sailor for a $150 in the late 60s.

I never killed anything with it and fired it 3 times. It looks like something a king would use. It is too beautiful to possibly damage trudging through the bush.
 

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so much for 30/06 not being accurate.!!!!!

I think that this claim of 30-06 not being accurate, originates from long range matches in seventies, where 30-06 for some reasons could not beat 308 win.
But, this is for looong raaaange matches. Extreme application.

The difference in accuracy (or lack of accuracy) on hunting distances, I was not able to determine.
Hunting aplication, today, moa or sub-moa rifles in 30-06 are nothing unsusal. Average user cannot see the difference when compared with other ordinary calibers.

then someone might know whether they are now 3 lug bolts.

sako 85 - 3 lug bolt, (advertised as) controlled feed action
sako a7 - 3 lug bolt, push feed action
tikka t3 - 2 lug bolt, push feed action.

Which sako model did you have?
 

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finnbear 2 lug.
another thing happened to it as well.
it refused to cock and it transpired that the trigger had seperated from the receiver.
replacement with a m70win solved the problem.
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Well...just few comments from my own personal experiences. I had a new Sako Kodiak. Over $2100 CDN. Beautiful rifle, fit and finish, the usual Sako quality, i.e. impeccable. The rifle would not feed blunt nose bullets, ejected cases or cartridges would end up back in the receiver when mounted with scope, the CRF was anything but that and the stock kicked me like a mule. Traded it on a CZ 550 and a VZ24. Never looked back. All my ZKKs and CZs were smooth from the get-go, with no feeding or ejection issues, some did get smoother yet with time but my current 9.3x62 CZ 550 and many before it have been butter-smooth from the factory.

The 3 position safety is really not needed on a Mauser-style action. To empty the magazine safely and quickly, just push and pull the bolt back and forth, let the claw do the work. No need to close the bolt, so quite safe IMHO. Except when you drop the cartridge in the chamber and then want to use the bolt to retrieve it. In that case closing the bolt may be easier than pushing forward to get the extractor over the rim. But that too depends on the rifle. The original Mauser has the middle position to facilitate taking out the firing pin assembly more than to be able to unload rifle safely, I think. So there the 3 positions are great. And yes, firing pin blocking would be great (one more reason I like original Mauser over even the CZs), though should the pin break anywhere but forward of the spring, even those rifles will fire. Not sure if that ever happened anywhere, though.

As to safety locking the bolt...I like that feature. I have a Brno 21H where that bolt opens way too easily when on safe (so much so, that when carried barrel up, the bolt can open, slide down and eject the round that was loaded in the chamber. Even when that does not happen, it's a mental exercise to always remember to close the bolt fully when getting ready to shoot. One drawback to an otherwise stellar rifle.
 
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I have been searching around for info and trying to find some info on the Sako 85 and the CZ.
The CZ has been regarded as one of the trusted rifles for Africa. And I have been itching for a 375 CZ.
Then I started exploring the Sako 85. I have found some info. But know i stuck between the two.
If im not mistaken the Sako 85 features a Control Feed Action?
I have been looking at the Brown Bear 375. But i have found very little info on it. Has someone had some expierence hunting with it? Is it worth spending the extra few dollars?
The CZ I have hunted with before. And know it quite a bit having used the CZ 458 lott also.
Any advice on the Sako 85 375 h&h Brown Bear? Its it worth it?

Sako is not a true control feed operation.
I have 4 Sakos and they are really great.
Only thing Eva large caliber is that in ejecting an empty case, it may hit the low mounted scope and fall into the action causing a jam.
So you need to be careful.
Sako has a very slick bolt and to me they are simply magnificent.
 
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