Reloading Advice Needed for 9.3x62

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Which bullet choice for 9.3x62

  1. Cutting Edge 210gr ESP Raptor

  2. Cutting Edge 250gr Safari Raptor

  3. Lapua 220gr Naturalis (Lead Free)

  4. Barnes 250gr TSX Triple Shock FB

  5. Barnes 250gr TTSX BT

  6. Hornady 250gr GMX

  7. Norma 232gr Oryx SP

  8. Nosler 250gr Sptz Accubond

  9. Swift 250gr A-Frame

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  1. cmk

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    From your list of bullets, I would choose the NAB or the light Oryx for softer targets at a distance, and A-Frame for harder targets up close. Perhaps the monometals would be equally good up close, as they like velocity.

    I recently picked up some Rhino Solid Shank 286gr, but haven't had time yet to start testing a suitable load. Also, I would not fear using the 320/325gr versions of Woodleighs and Norma Oryx for close range.
     

  2. Dean Macdonald

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    Thanks for the reply Bruce. That makes sense to me. And, if it is coming from the guys making the bullets, they should know what they are talking about.

    sgt_zim, I have not put a lot of stock in the whole "energy transfer" thing either. I am more interested in making a recipe that lets a bullet do what it was designed to do, and to run it at the speed it needed. The 286gr factory loads I have been using worked well, but I thought that I could do better. Thanks for your advice.

    Timbo, that is where your advice would come into play I think. I am a tinkerer by nature, so think that I would enjoy the whole process. I see a reloading press purchase in my future......
     
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  3. sgt_zim

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    30 years ago, we probably all put a lot of stock in the idea of "energy transfer," myself included. The Hatcher Theory, which is what we're talking about, has simply been demonstrated as not accurate.

    Recommendations on buying a press. If your budget will support it, a Dillon 650 will let you crank out ammo like nobody's business Having said that, I don't own one. My best friend and I used to reload a bunch of 45 ACP, 9mm, and 5.56. The Dillon is great for that, and he has one. But we figured out we'd rather drink whiskey, smoke cigars, and tell lies than spend THAT kind of time on reloading. Any more, for the ZA stuff, we buy factory. But for hunting ammo, we're both pretty anal, so we run lot sizes of maybe 50 at a time.

    But...

    I do most of my reloading on an RCBS Rockchucker. If you're going to drop coin, drop it on an automated powder dispenser. The good ones will run $300+. Bottom line - if you're reloading for the Zombie Apocalypse, get a Dillon. If you're reloading because you want to create consistent hunting ammo, get a Rockchucker and an automated powder dispenser. The powder dispenser will cut your reloading time by at least half. Still not as fast as a Dillon, but for hunting ammo, it isn't like you need to make ammo by the case.

    While some folks say recoil from a 9.3x62 is mild, that's relative. It's mild compared to any of the .416s or bigger, but it still thumps like a 338 WM. I've shot as many as 40 in a single session, and that was too much by about 15 or 20. I'm a big guy, 6'6" and 240#, and not recoil sensitive. But 9.3 is still a thumper.
     
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  4. Dean Macdonald

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    Thanks for the recommendation on the Rockchucker, That was going to be a question I had down the road. I have a set of the RCBS dies, and they look well made.
    I find the recoil of the 9.3 not too bad, more of a "push" like a 12 gauge, as opposed to the "stinging kick" of a magnum. I wonder if it has to do with the fit of the stock as well. I had a .30-06 Browning BAR that I did not like one bit. It caused me to develop a flinch so bad that I sold the rifle, even though it worked very well. The CZ 550 "Hogsback" stock seems to fit me like a glove, and I wonder if that is what tames the recoil for me?
     

  5. Michael Dean

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    You simply can't go wrong with the excellent performance of the swift Aframe, whether its cruising at 3,100 fps or 1,800 fps, they're going to mushroom well for you and provide excellent terminal performance. A newer bullet I've been trying is the Hammer. So far it's provided excellent performance accuracy wise for both my 270WSM and the 338Federal. I'm taking these with me to East South Africa in October for a plains game hunt.
     

  6. Dean Macdonald

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    Michael, who makes the Hammer?
    Dean
     

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    The name of the company is Hammer Bullets Company, they are based out of Montana. They have a pataneted design that reduces friction and increases velocity. Check them out on the web. THey also have a thread going on Long Range Hunter. What impressed me was their accuracy. I did a ladder test and was done after the first round. Very easy to find an accuracy node. I shoot them touching the lands. The penetration is supposed to be incredible. I've got a ten day hunt for ten animals in October in Africa and I'll be testing them out with my 270WSM and 338 Federal. Their unique design is really impressive. I'm expecting weight retention in the 90% plus category. They are a solid copper bullet.

    As I mentioned they're a small company and you order directly from the company. Steve, the owner is a hands on operator. I spoke with him regarding the choice in weights for both calibers and he recommended the bullets I'll be using. It's pretty nice to be able to reach out to the head of the company and get direct advice as to what to use.
     
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  8. Dean Macdonald

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    Thanks for the heads up on the Hammer Bullets Michael, I will check them out. It is pretty rare that you get to speak with a person on the other end of the phone, let alone the owner of the company.
    Dean
     

  9. sgt_zim

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    @Dean Macdonald - several of the bullet mfgs will talk to you. I've been on the phone with engineers from Barnes and Swift. Not the owners, of course, but guys who knew what they were talking about. And @Montana Rifle Company 's Ron Petty is the former boss of Norma USA. We've exchanged emails, and I'm sure he'd be more than happy to chat with you about both his current and former companies and their products.
     
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    Looks like the Swift 250gr A-Frame is the favourite here, but I like the sound of talking to the maunfacturers themselves to see what they recommend. It never occurred to me to just ask them. Thanks to all who replied.
    Dean
     

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    What are you hunting with Pieter?
     

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    Cape Buffalo and Sable. If things go well, I'm hoping to spend some time hunting warthog as well. I'm using a .416 Ruger with 400-grain TSX for the Buffalo.
     
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    Don't shoot all the buffalo! I'm coming to hunt in July! Save me a 40"! Haha!
     
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    I was told he's got a 42" bull if you're prepared to outlay the extra cash?
     
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    Nah. I just take whatever the bush has to offer!
     
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    Agree, 100%! I'll be there in June, so I'll let you know how I go.
     
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    I'm pretty excited about this. I leave in 7 days, 7 hours and 57 minutes. Thank you, Countdown Star! This is my first hunt with Pawprint and my first for Buffalo. I'm focusing on a solid-bossed OLD bull. I'm not prioritizing width over boss and age. Good luck @TOBY458 and @Timbo! It will be Norfolk Shooter's second trip with Pawprint and Dabloobana's first. We decided to coordinate out hunts when we met in London.
     
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    You'll enjoy it! We had a great hunt with them last year. I shot a nice, hard bossed buffalo, and 7 head of PG. Pieter runs a top notch outfit. And, prices are reasonable as well.
     
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    Best of luck to you guys and have a great time!! I'm certain that once you experience the rush of hunting DG you'll want to hunt it again, and again and again........!! Enjoy the affliction!! :)
     
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    Well, as much as my rule is: One load/rifle...?

    This new 9.3x62 is getting a handful, to be handloaded to target velocities of:

    - 286 gr. Swift A-Frame @ 2400 fps.
    - 285 gr. Norma Oryx @ 2420 fps.
    - 286 gr. Hdy SP-RP @ 2380 fps.
    - 270 gr. Speer Hot-Cor @ 2420 fps.

    Which should give all of them a 3" rise (scoped) for a 200 yd. zero, and a hair under 12" drop at 300.

    (Would like to also add a 250 gr. Barnes TSX @ 2400 fps as well, for the same trajectory, if some become available)




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