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The conservative party (of which I have been a participating member for more than 40 years) ruled Ontario for 42 years straight. They did a fine job. Good economy, and didn't have to shit on minorities to succeed.

Wayne Gaudet, of course, was a member of the Liberal Party. Not a Tory.

And let me suggest that being a lawyer is an excellent background for a politician. Since the purpose of the legislature is to draft laws those skills can come in handy.

I also worked for John Gamble, quite directly, and also with Jim Flaherty.

People doing good work for their constituents.

It takes some time and effort but provides more real returns than raging away on the internet about how well we treated mentally ill people centuries ago.

Another point we’ll have to disagree on , too many politicians come from legal and educational backgrounds with no real world experience and then get put in positions to oversee sectors that they have no real world experiences in.

You’ve got decades practicing law from your own admission who do you think is more qualified to be minister of energy a natural resource yourself or @WAB ?

Also I know Wayne personally he was a liberal of convenience
 
Anyone else ever notice when your talking to a liberal it’s impossible convincing them that your not shitting on minorities just because you don’t think they deserve any special treatment?

We all ride the same seats on the bus and use the same fountains and have done so my entire life, I’m of the opinion that all men are created equal under god and that means that no one should get discriminated against because of their skin colour or any other marker that makes them unique. It likewise means no one should get special treatment based on those same characteristics.
 
I don’t know about Canada… but in the US, politicians rarely draft legislation.. they sign and approve it.. but they have teams of attorneys that work with lobbyists, industry experts, etc … that’s who actually drafts law…

As an example, I worked very closely with one of the TX Senators recently on some legal issues regarding the USAF.. my attorneys coordinated with two attorneys in his office… the senator never lifted a pen (nor should he have)…

Senators and congressmen don’t need to be attorneys any more than CEOs and CFO’s need to be attorneys… I sign contracts, tax documents, and God only knows what else literally on a daily basis that commit large volumes of resources, etc thst are drafted by attorneys that specialize in the areas that the documents address

I have attorneys that work for me that draft those documents… no different than a senator does…

I’ll take it further.. my firm is in the process of acquiring a significant equity stake in another firm at the moment… we have a pair of attorneys that specialize in M&A assisting in that.. we also have an active dispute with the IRS we are dealing with.. we have a different pair of attorneys that specialize in tax law that are working for us there.. and we are pursuing another organization that’s in default on payments to us… we have a different attorney that specializes in corporate debt collection helping us there..

Just because some dude got a JD and spent 2 years as a grunt in a State AG office (never drafting a single law), or in family court handling child custody cases (never drafting a single law), or as general counsel for a $200m firm (never drafting a single law) doesn’t mean they are worth two shits as a legislator.. they bring no more experience or education in drafting legislation than I do when they are elected…

To @Tubby’s Canteen point, I’d much prefer the senator supervising the draft of legislation related to public health actually have a background in public health and have a clue about what it is he’s trying to accomplish than an attorney that may know how to write… the senator has a staff full of attorneys… I’d prefer the congressman that is heading up a bill on wildlife management maybe actually have some experience in conservation activities… I could care less if he clerked for the state district court in New Hampshire 12 years ago…

When it comes to ministers/secretaries I see a legal background even less valuable… we ask those people to oversee large complex organizations with billions of dollars in the budget… you need people experienced doing that.. not someone experienced arguing in court or drafting legal documents
 
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I don’t know about Canada… but in the US, politicians rarely draft legislation.. they sign and approve it.. but they have teams of attorneys that work with lobbyists, industry experts, etc … that’s who actually drafts law…

As an example, I worked very closely with one of the TX Senators recently on some legal issues regarding the USAF.. my attorneys coordinated with two attorneys in his office… he never lifted a pen (nor should he have)…

Senators and congressmen don’t need to be attorneys any more than CEOs and CFO’s need to be attorneys… I sign contracts, tax documents, and God only knows what else literally on a daily basis that commit large volumes of resources, etc thst are drafted by attorneys that specialize in the areas that the documents address

I have attorneys that work for me that draft those documents… no different than a senator does…

I’ll take it further.. my firm is in the process of acquiring a significant equity stake in another firm at the moment… we have a pair of attorneys that specialize in M&A assisting in that.. we also have an active dispute with the IRS we are dealing with.. we have a different pair of attorneys that specialize in tax law that are working for us there.. and we are pursuing another organization that’s in default on payments to us… we have a different attorney that specializes in corporate debt collection helping us there..

Just because some dude got a JD and spent 2 years as a grunt in a State AG office (never drafting a single law), or in family court handling child custody cases (never drafting a single law), or as general counsel for a $200m firm (never drafting a single law) doesn’t mean they are worth two shits as a legislator.. they bring no more experience or education in drafting legislation than I do when they are elected…

To @Tubby’s Canteen point, I’d much prefer the senator supervising the draft of legislation related to public health actually have a background in public health and have a clue about what it is he’s trying to accomplish than an attorney that may know how to write… the senator has a staff full of attorneys… I’d prefer the congressman that is heading up a bill on wildlife management maybe actually have some experience in conservation activities… I could care less if he clerked for the state district court in New Hampshire 12 years ago…

When it comes to ministers/secretaries I see a legal background even less valuable… we ask those people to oversee large complex organizations with billions of dollars in the budget… you need people experienced doing that.. not someone experienced arguing in court or drafting legal documents

Our current minister of fisheries is a retired nurse
 
Our current minister of fisheries is a retired nurse

Wise choice… I’m sure an RN is an absolute expert on the spawning of salmon and has a ton of experience running an organization with thousands of employees spread across thousands of miles, and managing hundreds of millions of dollars to effectively execute to a mission statement lol…

We see it in the US all the time too though… sadly it’s not unique to Canada…
 
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No, I did address his argument. If you don't work enough, you cant pay for a roof over your head. Hence the homelessness part. If you don't work enough you can't pay for food, hence the starvation part
“He who does not work, does not eat.” - Vladimir Lenin

It is not just capitalist society that expects you to work.
 
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“He who does not work, does not eat.” - Vladimir Lenin

It is not just capitalist society that expects you to work.

What is ironic is that it took a capitalists benevolence to fund Marx in order for him to even right his works and then he squandered his friends generosity to the point the family was living in squalor at times partially continuing to the death of 4 of his children and probably contributing to two others taking their own lives in adulthood. The father of communism was so successful that one of his seven children survived.
 
“He who does not work, does not eat.” - Vladimir Lenin

It is not just capitalist society that expects you to work.
In Nigeria, the saying is "No food for lazy man"

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We had deadly floods in Central Texas last summer. However, I have never seen anything remotely like this. Estimates are now indicating thousands of people are dead or missing.




Truly devastating. These are not insignificant buildings. The death tolls will probably rise significantly.

From what I have read a square kilometer of glacier calved, falling 2,000 meters. The resulting landslide and crushed ice turned into a slurry taking out everything in front of it.

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A secondary problem is the landslide has caused a lake to form that is filling daily. When it breaches another tidal wave will come down the valley.

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Truly devastating. These are not insignificant buildings. The death tolls will probably rise significantly.

From what I have read a square kilometer of glacier calved, falling 2,000 meters. The resulting landslide and crushed ice turned into a slurry taking out everything in front of it.

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A secondary problem is the landslide has caused a lake to form that is filling daily. When it breaches another tidal wave will come down the valley.

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And like every natural disaster, the climate change crowd is jumping all over it.
 
Nepal often gets Flash floods. But if you were standing there looking at that wall of debris coming your way; you would think it’s the end of days.

Water always wins.

Over time nothing defeats water in its solid, liquid or gas
state.

For them, it was.
 
Back in the summer of 1976 my parent drove us from Tucson to Minnesota for summer vacation. On the way back we stopped in Longmont, Colorado to visit some friends of my parents.
We all took a day trip to Estes Park, but the rains were so bad we had to cut it short and return back to Longmont.
Not very long after we left the Thompson River canyon it flooded, killing 144, and wounding many more. 418 homes destroyed.
That night we sat watching the news at my parents friends home, realizing we had just narrowly avoided disaster and possibly death.
 
I guess it depends upon your definition of choice. I suppose they could not work so much, but then again, the impending homelessness, starvation, and financial ruin doesn't feel like much of choice now does it? You don't see some level of coercion in that at all?

I don't know any couples my age that are financially successful on one salary alone other than where one spouse is a doctor.

Because your generation has no work ethic. You don't even know what it takes to be successful.

Your statement you don't know anyone that is your age that can make it on one salary. I was a high school dropout, my wife is an ivy league grad. She hasn't worked outside of the home in 20 years and I was certainly your age when I started. Here's how it goes:

1.) I had a day job. I'd intentionally work longer hours without pay than anyone else in the department. I got selected for promotions and I landed 150%-200% bonuses.

2.) Nights and weekends, I'd pick up a few grand teaching grad students at a local university. Clearly, I had some marketable skills I had acquired that were in demand enough to be part of graduate level curriculum.

3.) I'd always have 5 side hustles. Once I bought an ammunition company out of receivership and liquidated the assets, filling my garage to the brim for six months and parking outside.

4.) I'd always be restoring something. My wife didn't understand my odd fetish of restoring things until we needed a $12,000 HVAC replacement and I traded a suit of Gothic Plate Armor for it because the HVAC company liked it more than the cash.

5.) My wife would buy all her clothes used on real real and poshmark. She'd sell all her clothes at the same places. She'd sell all the kid's outgrown clothes in the same venues, but would only buy them at big retail sales so it almost washed even in the end.

6.) We'd grow some of our own vegetables, another side hustle. I had a few bee hives that were completely organic, my spouse would sell the prestige honey in prestige packaging to make a few extra bucks.

7.) These survey companies are always looking for industry insiders. The surveys pay $50-$100, the one our consultations pay $250-$1000 depending on the skills offered. I'd pick up a bunch of those.

8.) We'd stop at every garage sale. We decorated our homes with bargains found at garage sales. If we didn't like the item but it was valuable, it got flipped on eBay.

9.) We'd sign up for every legitimate class action lawsuit, bringing in another $1000 a year by registering as part of the class whenever appropriate.

10.) We'd save enough of our cash to have a catastrophe fund. We'd then save 50% on all our insurance coverages by having extremely high deductibles.

These are just ten examples of hundreds. That's what it takes, choices. We made choices to live a lifestyle beneath your generation's examples of what you think is earned/deserved to get ahead. We keep making those choices today. We don't eat out much. We never go to starbucks. We rarely go to fast food. We put ourselves on ghetto phone plans. Just this morning I made $250 selling an obsolete Macbook on FB marketplace because we save the boxes for our technology.

This is how you make it in life as a single income family. This is how you live well when your salary scales from $110k to $500k. We own 20 year old cars. We change our own oil. We live frugally, but donate generously.

And honestly, this is my biggest concern with your interactions on this forum because you have seriously myopic perceptions based on your belief in what the capabilities are of society. I think you believe those with greater success got lucky, rather than that they were gritty.
 

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