P14 DG rifles

[coreydb]

I bought a P17 and a Springfield 1903 to convert to DG for the same reasons.

 

[Ontario Hunter]

I bought a P17 and a Springfield 1903 to convert to DG for the same reasons.

What caliber DGR are you thinking?

 

[coreydb]

What caliber DGR are you thinking?

I'm wanting to build a 404J. My degenerating shoulder is maxed out at 415 Rem Mag with muzzle break.

 

[Ontario Hunter]

I'm wanting to build a 404J. My degenerating shoulder is maxed out at 415 Rem Mag with muzzle break.

In my mind 1903 Springfield is a sweeter action than either 98 Mauser or P14/1917. Almost cycles itself. Unfortunately, finding aftermarket stuff can be difficult. You'd likely need to have custom 404J bottom metal made for 1903. That wouldn't be cheap. Myers makes 3-position Model 70 safety/shroud for 1903 but twice the price of similar for 98 Mauser by Parkwest (if I recall correctly Myers safeties for 1917 are even more expensive). Of course 1903 doesn't require the extensive carving to remove military sight crap on 1917 receiver.

 

[Daryl S]

There was an outfit in Montana, Gantry, I think who has a 3-position m70-type safety for 98's. I tried to buy one during Obama's 2nd reign and they said that due to the export-tax/licence fee, they could not shit to Canada. At that time, it was $189.00 US.

 

[Grumpy gumpy]

There was an outfit in Montana, Gantry, I think who has a 3-position m70-type safety for 98's. I tried to buy one during Obama's 2nd reign and they said that due to the export-tax/licence fee, they could not shit to Canada. At that time, it was $189.00 US.

Do you mean Gentry custom?
Gumpy

 

[Daryl S]

That might have been it. Sounds familiar.
I see there was a mis-spelling in my post. Should have been ship, to Canada, not the other word.LOL

 

[RootballExpress]

I have a full custom 500 A-Square built on a p14/p17 action. I love it. It does have a replica Hannibal stock that’s full synthetic and the rifle overall weighs 12.2 lbs unloaded. Shoots so smooth. I also have a rebuild/repair kit for the p14 action as well. Came with the rifle from my gunsmith. Those actions are very hard to repair BUT there are kits especially for them, so the fear of having an obsolete action is eliminated. Advanced Boyou Weapon System out of Louisiana built mine for me late last year.

 

[Choupique]

415 Rem Mag

Ok guys, yall are taking this wildcatting thing a bit far

 

[Ontario Hunter]

There was an outfit in Montana, Gantry, I think who has a 3-position m70-type safety for 98's. I tried to buy one during Obama's 2nd reign and they said that due to the export-tax/licence fee, they could not shit to Canada. At that time, it was $189.00 US.

For years they have been "sold out" of all safeties but Siamese Mauser and Remington 700.

 

[Daryl S]

This happened under Obama's increased export licenses as near as I could find. If that "system" has changed, it would be news to me.

 

[Daryl S]

Ok guys, yall are taking this wildcatting thing a bit far

That all depends on one's own perspective. Some.people think all vehicles should be government regulated/governed to not exceed 50 mph.
Every now and then when passing a bunch of slow movers, my trucks governor stops the wonderful excelleration and won't go any faster. It is a Kentucky 350 Ford 6.7 diesel. The governed speed is just barely set at 3 figures.

 

[BlueFlyer]

Myers makes 3-position Model 70 safety/shroud for 1903 but twice the price of similar for 98 Mauser by Parkwest (if I recall correctly Myers safeties for 1917 are even more expensive).

Why would you change the safety on a M17? The standard safety has excellent function, it locks the sear and the bolt handle, is immediately under the thumb and the forces required to activate it are excellent.

 

[Ontario Hunter]

Why would you change the safety on a M17? The standard safety has excellent function, it locks the sear and the bolt handle, is immediately under the thumb and the forces required to activate it are excellent.

I wouldn't change it but apparently some folks prefer the position two for "added safety." In my opinion anyone who doesn't know enough to point the gun in a safe direction while cycling live rounds with safety disengaged is too stupid to be handling guns. I have a 3-position Model 70 safety on my 98 Mauser and rarely if ever remember to use position two when unloading the rifle. I could also open the floorplate to unload it ... if I wanted to pick dented cartridges out of the dirt. I installed Model 70 style because it is the most convenient scope relief safety to install and employ.

 

[BlueFlyer]

I installed Model 70 style because it is the most convenient scope relief safety to install and employ.

Totally agree with you that it is the best option for a 98.

 

[Daryl S]

Thats why I wanted one. I usually have one or two in the magazine box, with the bolt closed on an empty chamber when hunting.
When guiding, rifle carried in both hands or slung, bolt closed on loaded round, safety employed.

 

[Ontario Hunter]

When I'm solo hunting deer or elk, my rifle has one in the chamber and safety engaged. Same for dangerous game and my 98 Mauser. But hunting plains game with PH and tracker, the chamber is empty. I don't totally trust the aftermarket scope relief wing safety on my Springfield. I'm presently in the process of changing that gun to Model 70 safety.

 

[mgstucson]

I have a full custom 500 A-Square built on a p14/p17 action. I love it. It does have a replica Hannibal stock that’s full synthetic and the rifle overall weighs 12.2 lbs unloaded. Shoots so smooth. I also have a rebuild/repair kit for the p14 action as well. Came with the rifle from my gunsmith. Those actions are very hard to repair BUT there are kits especially for them, so the fear of having an obsolete action is eliminated. Advanced Boyou Weapon System out of Louisiana built mine for me late last year.

Thanks for the info.

Where did you get the replica Hannibal stock?

 

[roklok]

Here is a link to a thread describing my Remington 30 Express .375 H&H project. Mainly posting it here because it details what I did to alter magazine and action to magnum length cartridges.

Thread 'The rifle Remington SHOULD have made, 30 Express .375 H&H'

Jan 24, 2026

In late 2024 I won a Remington 30-S Express made in 1936 in a Gunbroker auction. I have long been a fan of the M1917 and P14 Enfields, and the Remington 30 which shares the same basic action. This particular 30 Express had the original barrel rechambered for 300 Win Mag with the bolt face opened up and magazine feed rails modified. It held 3 +1 in this configuration. It shot OK, but I had no real desire for a .300 Winchester. It was in really nice condition, other than a recoil pad that looked straight out of the 1960s complete with a lightning pattern spacer. Here is a pic as...

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[yumastepside]

....not so much a reply as a question....
I have been building a P14 in 9.3x74R and have made a replacement mag box that is 95mm long, metal has been removed from the action back towards the trigger area ( Timney replacement trigger ) to fit this box...remembering that being a rimmed cartridge, the box is sloped.
The problem I now have is that the mag box is longer than the floorplate and goes over the original floorplate release.
My question is...what do you use for bottom metal when converting to longer cartridges ? or is there a way of modifying the original ? I have looked at pics of Finn's Slant box Rigby in 9.3x74R and it has a straddle floorplate similar to a Siamese Mauser....maybe this is the answer ?

Roger