New Buffalo call your shot

[BGGMKLR]

I would shoot exactly (or try) where my PH told me. In hot blood, excited, maybe (probably) a bit peckish, one might find it difficult to refer back mentally to Buff anatomy and the calculus requisite for it's application to angle, vitals, bullet path, etc.
I crawled to within about 60-70 ft from three Dugga boys (accidently...as we were stalking them broadside they turned and fed directly at us). The largest of the three was (luckily) centered and facing directly head-on.
My Ph said:
"Put it on the bottom of his chin and go down six inches..."
I learned many decades ago not to second- guess or guide the guide...that's what you're paying them for.
Best
Spike

BTW...375...300 gr solids

 

[HerbJohnson]

Spike...absolutely!! Best advice of all. Shot angles and placement are just good to know.

 

[Creigh]

There's a Buff school here that says white if he's straight on with head up, spine over the top of the head if his head is down and on the nose if he's running at you. There's a video out there somewhere.

 

[Altitude sickness]

A lot of my enjoyment of hunting comes from the prep work. Of course practice with the weapon is fun. I also enjoy learning and memorizing the anatomy of the quarry.

Of course we take direction from our trusted PH on where he wants the bullet placed. He is responsible for the results of our shot.

But If an animal stops and gives me a split second look. I want to know where to place the POI at any angle. Shooting is separate from the first step of identifying quickly if you have an ethical shot.

Once your PH says that’s the animal and gives you the green light. More back and forth talking lowers your odds of getting a shot. Which I have to admit I have seen work to an advantage for some in the past. Hunter blows 5 good opportunities because they are too slow to the sticks, too slow to acquire the animal, too slow to shoot. Then a week later shoots a trophy larger than the previous 5 animals.

But more often a trophy animal walks or runs off as the hunter is still too slow to get the shot off. And that is the best or only opportunity given

also, I am not holding myself up as an expert in this area. Only sharing tips and tools that I enjoy practicing and that have helped me get better.

 

[BlueFlyer]

But more often a trophy animal walks or runs off as the hunter is still too slow to get the shot off. And that is the best or only opportunity given

Totally agree with you. Big old bulls, bucks, stags,etc don't get big and old by standing around waiting to see what a hunter's intentions are. Usually they see you, they run.

 

[IvW]

There's a Buff school here that says white if he's straight on with head up, spine over the top of the head if his head is down and on the nose if he's running at you. There's a video out there somewhere.

You never ever take a first shot over the head to try and hit the spine......
The only way you will see that presentation is when it is grazing in which case it does not know you are there so you just wait until a proper shot presents itself......

 

[Hunter-Habib]

Between red & green, but closer to red with 300Gr Barnes TSX fired from a telescopic sighted .375 Holland & Holland Magnum.

 

[Belk]

Between red and green, and down a handbreadth. If I’m seeing correctly.

( Always wanted to use handbreadth in a sentence. Thanks for that)

I had to look up this romantic writing term. I like it.
A handbreadth is a unit of length based on the width of a human hand, usually around 2.5 to 4 inches. It can also refer to the width of the palm of a hand.

 

[VINOYASADO]

I had to look up this romantic writing term. I like it.
A handbreadth is a unit of length based on the width of a human hand, usually around 2.5 to 4 inches. It can also refer to the width of the palm of a hand.

In Spain, that is called "un palmo" or "cuarta" between 15 to 20 cm
However in some areas "un palmo" also refer to 4 fingers,

 

[Papa72]

Between red and green with my .416 Ruger 400g Barnes TSX @ 2400fps. Agree that the old boys won’t hang around for closer shots.

 

[MAdcox]

Right edge of the red.

 

[Jay A Huminsky]

Between Red and Green

 

[AZDAVE]

Since I would be shooting with a iron or red dot on a double. I would wait till he stepped more into the light out of the shadows or once he spooks get back on tracks.

 

[Philip Glass]

This is the very shot I've heard PH's describe as the one where buff get wounded. It was just discussed on the TIA podcast. I'm calling green or just a bit left of green. Also it is an easy shot, distance wise, with a red dot.
Good discussion!

 

[Racer00]

I just had this exact shot at 28 yards last week. 470 NE with Barnes TSX 500 gr at 2075 fps. He wheeled at the shot, and I hit him a second time in the right hip quartering forward. It traveled up thru the gut and into the chest. We think either shot would have taken him. He ran about 40 yds through the thick brush and went down. About 45 seconds later, a long death bellow signaled the end.

 

[Fordy]

Gday altitude sickness

It’s a good idea to make a target the shape and size of the frontal kill zone. And practice that shot.

It’s a relatively large target.

You may walk a lot of miles for one good frontal shot. You don’t always get a bull standing broadside in the wide open. You would kick yourself for years for not being prepared to make this shot on this caliber of bull.

This is a great idea & one we are in process of getting organised for elephant although will be a touch difference but concept the same of putting us in a better position of being aware than going in blind

Frontals are very effective and quick kills.

Totally agree but also can be a nightmare if it’s not executed correctly ( placement) hence in a ideal world im going my 375rum with a swaro due to glass quality/ clarity & impact @plus 2700 in this case due to range, impact would be 2850ish ( still well within pill’s ability to deliver straight line & great penetration) as I look @ where a pill for better words terminal performance goes backwards due to velocity & resistance of critter

& a pill like this

would be my choice as it has more ability to resist deflection better ( but can get even better I think & time will tell on that ) & gives the bit more insurance if we in my case aim for between red & green ( more towards red ) & make impact on green or heaven’s forbid ea side of red or green or outside the normal line of up & down on this impact line ( this can be from shooter error or critter quartered more or less than we think or he moves on break of trigger & why good quality glass in a scope rises to the top imo )

Just how I look @ things & I personally try to cover as many bases as possible

Once again great idea to get us to think & im guessing more of these type of shot situations have been put up due to title of thread , so I’ll search as soon as I have a bit more time as need to go & get some work done but what a great idea

Cheers