Looking for info on best way to Africa in August

Tommypeloe

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Flying from Sydney Australia to South Africa in August.

Just chasing info on what would be the best way to bring trophies back to Aus ( providing I shoot something)
Is it better to get tanned and dipped over there and bring back?
Get permits and bring back green?
Get taxidermy done over there and bring back ?
If so what taxidermist?

Thanks in advance, this will be my first time over to South Africa so any help would be AWESOME.
Cheers and happy hunting
 
I'd like to know too
 
Contact Tim Blackwell who goes by @blacks here on the forum. He will be able to help you guys.

All the best with your planning.

Cheers,
Marius Goosen
 
I'll see if I can find him and send him a msg still new to this site
 
I'll see if I can find him and send him a msg still new to this site

My apologies, only see now that its your first post. Welcome to AH, @Tommypeloe

I informed Tim about your request, so I am sure he will chime in as soon as he has a chance.
 
A lot would depend on if you have a taxidermist you like back home. What area in SA are you hunting at as that will make it easier to maybe give you some places to use for mounting or dip/pack. Plenty of choices in SA to pick from but takes homework to find the better ones for mounting.

Welcome to the site.
 
Yeah I have a few good taxidermist here in Aus I'd use. I'm just not sure which would be the best way to go.

I'll be hunting with mompati safaris up in the north east
 
I would say check with one of them also and see how they have handled bringng stuff in from Africa. They may like working with a place over in Sa already and that will be a help.
 
I am sure you have a million things going through your head now so sometime asking some question helps. I would start there and make sure the place you pick at home ask to see some of there African work they have done. The northwest area in SA has plenty of places to pick from.

Just don't let the outfitter make you use a place he likes unless you do to. Then don't let them or the taxidermist pressure you in to using the shipper they want get another quote for sure for shipping.

Some good ones up in that area would be capicorn, bulleyes and one I just started to look in to is marakalalo in the free state. I have used Relive but there in the east cape so stuff would need to be shipped to them the others are in the area will normally pick up stuff from outfitter.
 
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That's some good info mate thank you very much I might just see who they use to dip and what not and see who my taxidermist likes
 
@Tommypeloe , just check, because as far as I am concerned and in my opinion, Australia is a little bit stricter on importarion of hides than other countries. Not to say that the Taxidermists over here won't know what to do, in actual fact, quite the opposite. Tim Blackwell is a taxidermist in Australia who has hunted Africa, so could shed some light on some of the pitfalls.

Best of luck.
 
I'm pretty sure you can't bring them in green unless you have an importer license but have to be met at the airport for quarantine.
But I think it's too late for me to put in permits as it takes time. I might send him a msg on Facebook and see what he says
 
I understand I am in the USA but think the information is the same.
We went in 2013 and I am headed back in May.
This is what we did and it worked out well.
Dip and pack in SA
Air ship them here using a shipping broker to make the USA inspections/crap easier.
Had my taxidermy guy do the mounts.
All tanning done here.
They turned out great.

This avoided all the possible problems with have the tanning and/or Taxidermy done there and not liking it. Also did not want the horns painted like so many of the SA taxidermy people do. I have read (here) of people asking them not to but when they get the finished mount they are painted. I do not like the painted horns.

I have also read here of the tanning not well done there and mounts being of poor quality or switched horns/capes.

If you are hunting the eastern cape area I can suggest an excellent Taxidermist for the dip and pack. The work I have seen of his mounts is also very good. I may have him mount one or two small animals on this trip. Still debating about that.

My 2 Cents
 
OK Tommy I've finally found time to jump in here. Thanks to Marius for the heads-up on this post.

In Australia, to bring back salted green capes (ie, dip & pack) you need to go through a quarantine approved facility, of which there is only one left in the country now thanks to Government fee hikes and red tape (Gary Pegg @ South Pacific Taxidermy has discontinued this area of business after many years at it.) The single remaining go-to guy is Danny Vanbrugh in Queensland.

The other way to go is to have them tanned in Africa and skulls cleaned for export. This way they can go through a normal customs import and be sent or collected straight to you. But there are pitfalls - I went this way on my first safari to Namibia in 2016 and even went as far to get in writing what tanning chemicals the place was using as I'd heard some horror stories. Despite this all my capes were unfortunately ruined and I'm still waiting on replacements which I've been promised will come. Stuff-ups can happen anywhere but this is heart-wrenching stuff....so due-diligence is required but there is always some risk whichever way you go. Even getting them dipped/salted there and tanned here can lead to problems as skins may not rehydrate properly for the pickling/tanning process to commence, hence why I thought I'd skip this expense and just have them tanned there. I should add that I was just unlucky - I've mounted other African shipments for clients that were tanned there and came back just fine.

Third option is to mount over there and have shipped. I didn't really consider this option as in my opinion the resulting quality is very variable and the freight costs astronomical. I'd go one of the other two options personally.

The best man to talk to is Nick Bence from Raitt International Freight here in Aus. Nick is a champ and does this stuff every day - he's very helpful and thorough and can assist you through the whole process. Given the fees I paid Raitt on my last import it was definitely worth it and I'll use them again - I've also used them for several trophy exports. Email nick@raitt.com.au and tell him I sent you.

It's definitely worth also talking to your intended taxo here and see which process they recommend and whether they have worked with Danny Vanbrugh before, or have a preferred tanner over there. There's a few guys who are good on African mounts depending on your location - South Pacific, Markus Michalowitz or Tony Bianco spring to mind.

So at the end of all that I'll close by saying I'm heading back to South Africa in 2018 to hunt with KMG and still unsure which process I'll use myself. Probably I'll get them tanned there after doing my homework - but then I might talk to Danny re. costs too.

All the best, hope that's of some use! Enjoy the planning process, it's half the fun!

Tim Blackwell
 
Thanks mate that's some awesome information there and it is a lot to consider especially since this is my first trip so it's very overwhelming.

I'll have to do more research on tanning over there as I think that will be the way I go
 
Ask your outfitter which taxidermist they recommend for tanning and then research that taxo on here. That's a good place to start. Definitely worth chatting to Nick Bence too as he can oversee and simplify the whole freight/customs process too.
 

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