Heym vs Kriegsoff Double Rifles

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  1. norfolk shooter

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    Looks like the home office are changing the laws re expanding ammo in the U.K. I should be be able to get a proper DG calibre.
     
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  2. spike.t

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    interesting . where did you hear that , and will it be for all calibres?
     

  3. norfolk shooter

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    Yep and I got from BASC and the home office website
     
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    The only issue I have is how big a boom stick could a 5'3 man that come in at 65kg handle?? I'm thinking something in the 400 class. Maybe a 470 who knows
     

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    your height and weight have little to no bearing on what calibers your able to shoot. in fact its quite the opposite, a heavier guy will get more felt recoil then a lighter guy. a lighter shooter will move more under recoil which can increase follow up time a bit but will make the gun more comfortable.

    some of the biggest proponents of the 4 bore double rifle were very small English gentlemen.

    -matt
     
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  6. norfolk shooter

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    As a hand loader all I can say is dies for the big stuff are hard to find and when you do there expensive
     

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    I am not an expert on double rifles.

    I wanted one to replace my o/u and get a side-by-side. I just wanted to tell you that the same thing happened to me. I ordered my Heym rifle 2 weeks ago. I should get it in a few months. This gives me time to think about the scope I want to put on it. I was an inch close to purchase a Krieghoff, Merkel or a Chapuis. I respect all these rifles. When it comes to it, they are all outstanding rifles to handle and look at. It is a priviledge to own any of these rifles.
     

  8. matt85

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    dies are a one time purchase and cost nothing compared to the rifle.

    -matt
     
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    sorry but cant resist......................maybe matt you should have bought the die things first.........and not the other things that go bang.....thats when they work of course..................;)
     

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    Heym are great guns. You won't regret it. Happy Hunting
     

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    I have owned both in 500 NE. My first double was the K-gun. I have no complaints. I sent it back for a mercury recoil reducer as it was a tad bit on the light side. Took it to Africa and had a blast. I always wanted a Heym so last year I had one built and it is an awesome weapon as well. The Heym took a little more time to regulate my bullets but it is more accurate than my K-gun was. Both great guns but I will give the nod to Heym.
     
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    As guy who has a Krieghoff .470NE, if I had the choice, I would probably lean toards the Heym...........................

    BUT I have had the forend reworked and the rest of the stock refininshed and I really enjoy my K gun! Accurate and great to shoot................so a tough one.............
     
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    Hi Norfolk,

    Personally I would stick to the bolt action .375 and put in for a bigger caliber in the double for the more up close dangerous game. I understand that you can't have expanding ammo in this county but you can either get it sent to camp or if you are a hand loader like you say just buy and bring a box of heads back with you when you are in Africa next, you can load as much as you want and it will be a quarter of the price trust me

    As for the heym or the krieghoff, both are great rifles but I would go for which ever one is an ejector personally as you could possibly regret that in the heat of the moment when something is running in full charge at you and your fumbling around trying to extract empty brass!!! I have a couple of PH friends that have krieghoffs in .500 nitro's and they swear by them, so they can't be bad!!

    Food for thought
     
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    P.S. They are possibly changing the law on soft/solid in the next year or so, so that all ammo is just classed as the same
     

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    I've got some dies for a .270 .416 and .450/400 I'm looking at selling, obviously only one of them is a double caliber but it might sway your mind towards it and that is a great soft shooting caliber if your worried about the recoil!!
     
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    It's been changed and softs are no longer controlled so I can get anything now! I am tempted to go 416-500 ne. The heym has sold now anyway
     

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    I was just wondering how much worse off would I be with a 375 H&H in an up close and personal situation anyhow?? Surely 300 grains in the right place even at 20 yards would be good enough!
     

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    IMG_9868.JPG IMG_9869.JPG IMG_9867.JPG IMG_9866.JPG IMG_9864.JPG IMG_9865.JPG I love my Krieghoff Classic Big Five 9,3x74R. Guess it won't explode as it happened with Heym rifles recently...
     
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    What are you referring to about Heyms "blowing up"?
     

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