Gun Control - The Debate, Argument Or Whatever ...

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  1. lcq

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    could you post the source of that table? I'll be using it up here to slap our politicians
     

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    I agree that removing God from our schools and our culture is problem #1 and #2 would be the total breakdown in the traditional family.....our government helped this along with the welfare system. Taking fathers out of the equation ended up making the family out of balance.....I believe a family needs a father.....the father used to represent the discipline side...or the threat of. You breakdown and destroy the family...kids go "askew".....most moms can't handle the day work, raising kids, the discipline....it is too much demanded upon them.

    I like the concept of concealed carry in schools but the key word here is training. I'm a certified concealed carry instructor in Kansas and believe concealed training should be mandatory....however, in Kansas, now, it is not required. All carriers need to understand bullet penetration and where that round can go. Shoot, don't shoot scenarios. And the firearm has to be on the individual....you can't leave the gun in a purse in the desk....no control from someone else obtaining. Concept is sound to me if bad guys don't know who is armed, good deterrent issue....if training is provided and stressed I believe the idea has merit.
     
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    regarding the 18 school shooting this year. the figures included any discharge of a firearm at a school whether there were students there or not. There were several accidental discharges and even a stray bullet fired from who knows where that where included in these numbers. Students asked God "why did you allow this to happen in our schools? God replied, I was not allowed in your schools". Yet we teach our students to bow down an kneel to observe and respect Islamic teachings. Go figure.
     

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    Not much to add to whats already been said here. But i think gun owners need to keep firm and be vocal about the failure of society, and more importantly the lefts view and application of society in contributing to shootings. Yes there fault. They look the other way when selling our children a violent movie, portraying gun culture as the villain instead of safety and respect for guns, there uses and benefits and history. The obscene prolonged childhood, helping older teens and younger adults avoid the responsibility of a fulfilled life. Example, 30 year olds still living with there parents. Ect ect ect. Im 36 so i fall into that age group and yes not all of us have had sh*tty parents. But i just wanted to chime in here. I really enjoy this online forum and its efforts and others. Like i said, there fault and i wanna cram it down there throat
     
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    sorry not real good with this system yet.
    Soft targets are just that. I carry every day and am extremely aware of my
    surroundings so as not to be a "soft" target. I put a bullet proof panel in my daughters
    back pack this week and this is very saddening to me. This is the world we live in and the
    only defense against senseless violence is making it more dangerous for these deranged
    people to carry out these acts. Speaking to the deputies that did not engage the shooter
    in florida, they have no place in law enforcement! just my two cents but I wish more law abiding
    citizens would get training and exercise their constitutional rights!
     
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    amen brother!!!
     

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    March 10, 2018
    Justice Department files regulation to ban 'bump stocks'


    WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The U.S. Department of Justice formally submitted a regulation on Saturday to ban “bump stocks,” a modification to high-capacity rifles that lets them fire like an automatic weapon.

    President Donald Trump signed a memorandum in February directing the department to make the regulatory change, which must now be approved by the Office of Management and Budget before it is published and subject to a commentary period.

    The move does not require congressional approval, allowing the administration to side-step what could have been insurmountable pressure from pro-gun groups such as the National Rifle Association that have worked to erode changes in firearm laws in the wake of mass shootings in Florida and Nevada.


    The NRA supported more regulations on bump stocks but has not endorsed Trump’s ban and said previously it was awaiting the publication of the regulation before rendering judgment.

    The NRA could not immediately be reached for comment.

    Shooter Stephen Paddock was in possession of a “bump stock” after a shooting rampage in Las Vegas in October 2017 that left 58 people dead and more than 850 injured.
     
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    I don't personally have any time for bump stocks, but the idea this is doing anything useful in banning them is a bit silly. If you have legal semi-auto, and legal belt feed, or functioning high capacity mags, all you need are electrical components to automate the trigger. Regulating late 19th century technology is a toughie.
     
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