CWD safe to eat or not?

[Frostbite]

My doc has limited me to salmon, pork chops and chicken and not a lot of those pork chops...........and I also eat canned tuna and sardines.

Venison when I can get it and NO BEEF.

Darn.

I loved those Ribeyes.

 

[steve white]

What about all the Elk jerky sold by Buckee's, or all the specialty jerky shops? Can we trust their commercial venison sources? Christmas is coming and Cabela's and Bass Pro will likely have a bunch of jerky package offers as well. Where does it all end? Constant vigilance or devil may care?

 

[Doug Hamilton]

No disrespect but please remove this ASAP...this is exactly what anti hunters that troll our site look for to show what we "seem to endourse."

I don't know. Native Africans will happily eat monkeys. Most European and North American people won't. Natives eating monkeys will go on whether we endorse it or not. If the antis want to spend their time, money and resources on convincing Africans to stop eating monkeys I'm not seeing the down side.

 

[dlmac]

From Wikipedia,


“CWD is a transmissible spongiform encephalopathy (TSE) affecting deer. TSEs are a family of diseases caused by misfolded proteins called prions and include similar diseases such as BSE (mad cow disease) in cattle, Creutzfeldt–Jakob disease(CJD) in humans, and scrapie in sheep. . . . In April 2024, it was revealed that two men from the same hunting group contracted Creutzfeldt–Jakob disease, prompting medical researchers to speculate transmission had occurred from consuming CWD-positive venison.”

I would not touch it much less eat it.

I was going to reference the same article. The chance of 2 hunting partners catching CJD is almost impossible. CJD is primarily found in South America. I would not eat it or even feed it to my dogs. It is not easily denatured as other protiens.

 

[farmer_john]

No disrespect but please remove this ASAP...this is exactly what anti hunters that troll our site look for to show what we "seem to endourse."

I think your being a bit sensitive.

 

[Flbt]

We’ll just have to disagree I guess. I don’t mind deer and have eaten several of them. I’m just a beef man I suppose.

Yea just different taste.

In all honesty if squirrel and rabbit were as big. As deer they would be what I hunted most. lol

 

[Wyatt Smith]

Yea just different taste.

In all honesty if squirrel and rabbit were as big. As deer they would be what I hunted most. lol

Agree 100% there!

 

[NIGHTHAWK]

No disrespect but please remove this ASAP...this is exactly what anti hunters that troll our site look for to show what we "seem to endourse."

I was pointing out the duality between African tribal hunters and American hunters… The picture was meant to elicit emotion!

Of course I appreciate the tribal hunters ability to survive on what is available. Doesn’t bother me that they eat monkeys. It’s ingrained in them for survival and that is part of their fixed culture. It just looks bizarre to most westerners or hunters that may have never been exposed to it.

It has little to do with “endorsement” because “we”, or most, modern hunters have different motivations for hunting. Wildlife management, recreational, and/or sport hunting is different than sustenance hunting. So, I could give two shits if “anti-hunters” are unable to discern the difference…

 

[Hunt anything]

I was pointing out the duality between African tribal hunters and American hunters… The picture was meant to elicit emotion!

Of course I appreciate the tribal hunters ability to survive on what is available. Doesn’t bother me that they eat monkeys. It’s ingrained in them for survival and that is part of their fixed culture. It just looks bizarre to most westerners or hunters that may have never been exposed to it.

It has little to do with “endorsement” because “we”, or most, modern hunters have different motivations for hunting. Wildlife management, recreational, and/or sport hunting is different than sustenance hunting. So, I could give two shits if “anti-hunters” are unable to discern the difference…

To us westerners eating a monkey, rat, or insect to name a few may be offensive but to other cultures its survival.
Back when Covid was ramping up it was always “exotic meat markets” or somebody ate a bat sandwich, they may tour one of our meat markets and wonder the same thing about the animals we eat.
I personally have no qualms about what others eat and if offered I will try just about anything, I would draw the line at primates.
With all of this protein being consumed it’s a wonder there’s not more cases of these illnesses.

 

[Rare Breed]

I was pointing out the duality between African tribal hunters and American hunters… The picture was meant to elicit emotion!

Of course I appreciate the tribal hunters ability to survive on what is available. Doesn’t bother me that they eat monkeys. It’s ingrained in them for survival and that is part of their fixed culture. It just looks bizarre to most westerners or hunters that may have never been exposed to it.

It has little to do with “endorsement” because “we”, or most, modern hunters have different motivations for hunting. Wildlife management, recreational, and/or sport hunting is different than sustenance hunting. So, I could give two shits if “anti-hunters” are unable to discern the difference…

Agree, my concern is not eating monkeys but eating them alive with them shown screaming as the pictures seems to depict even if that is not correct. again no disrespect meant at all I have tremendous respect for you and your great posts and I am not being over sensitive just know we have trolls who look for this stuff which is a pain in our ass when they choose to misinterpret

 

[Hunt anything]

Agree, my concern is not eating monkeys but eating them alive with them shown screaming as the pictures seems to depict even if that is not correct. again no disrespect meant at all I have tremendous respect for you and your great posts and I am not being over sensitive just know we have trolls who look for this stuff which is a pain in our ass when they choose to misinterpret

I hope the monkey wasn’t alive, I thought it looked dead and had all of its hair singed off in a fire.
Lots of cultures aren’t known for their compassion through.

 

[steve white]

I hope the monkey wasn’t alive, I thought it looked dead and had all of its hair singed off in a fire.
Lots of cultures aren’t known for their compassion through.

Look closer--one paw is already eaten off. Doesn't look like it died peacefully for sure.
I have eaten a lot of different things and a lot of different ways--and lived. For someone that is as careful about keeping things fresh, I have been asked to eat fish where the gills had turned white before they were cooked, etc. Say a prayer sometimes, in earnest!

 

[Flbt]

Agree, my concern is not eating monkeys but eating them alive with them shown screaming as the pictures seems to depict even if that is not correct. again no disrespect meant at all I have tremendous respect for you and your great posts and I am not being over sensitive just know we have trolls who look for this stuff which is a pain in our ass when they choose to misinterpret

It didn’t look live to me.

And there is a few foods that are considered normal to eat alive.

 

[Boone66]

You think CWD "was created in a lab? It was first discovered and identified at a research facility, It has also been stated that it came from privately owned animals that went to the facility That is not the same as creating it. Unless you believe that " mad cow" or scrapie Which have been around for decades also came from labs for si mm e nefarious purpose. BTW, cooking the meat well.done has no effect on the prions that cause these diseases. They aren't caused by bacteria or viruses. I do agree with you though that many of us have eaten meat from these animals without knowing it.

When CWD first came out, it was in a elk heard at I think, university of Colorado. They fed the game farm elk that food with ground bones in it. They tested the elk, messed with it, gave them injections, to see what would happen...ya know, studying it. The wild elk came up to the fence and got friendly with the farmed elk and got it. And it spread from their. A double fence would have prevented all these problems, or just not messing with it. Before this happened, mad cow had not jumped to other rudiments, in wild game. I lived in Colorado and a big report came out all about it In the nineties, so yeah, they messed with it, until it happened, and then didn't contain it. I really think sciencentist should be controlled, corralled and taught morals...bunch of educated idiots.

 

[NIGHTHAWK]

Agree, my concern is not eating monkeys but eating them alive with them shown screaming as the pictures seems to depict even if that is not correct. again no disrespect meant at all I have tremendous respect for you and your great posts and I am not being over sensitive just know we have trolls who look for this stuff which is a pain in our ass when they choose to misinterpret

Understood. No true offense taken. Context is sometimes difficult to interpret on posts or text. I appreciate your reply.

BTW: They do cook them… Or at least the ones I’ve paid attention to. Where other cultures, more gathering cultures, may eat fish, eel, other sea creatures, grubs, and insects alive and that may be equally offensive to others.

Risk to us, seems to be more scientific and calculated, where cultures with fewer choices have no such sense of measurement. I find that fascinating in a lot of ways. Just like I found the stories (as were told to me directly by him when I was a boy) of my grandfather trapping muskrat, and likely eating them, during the depression.

Truth is, there are plenty of people that take primates for sport or nuisance management and post pictures of them, taxidermy, and proudly display them… And, may never sample or eat the meat or it may not be used. Again, doesn’t offend me. To each their own.

**Monkeys and Baboons can be hell on a thatched roof or a pecan orchard! Just like feral hogs can be on an American farm!

 

[Field28]

It didn’t look live to me.

And there is a few foods that are considered normal to eat alive.

Oysters are about the only thing that I eat that would still be living.

I like a good steak close to alive but just dead enough.

 

[NIGHTHAWK]

I hope the monkey wasn’t alive, I thought it looked dead and had all of its hair singed off in a fire.
Lots of cultures aren’t known for their compassion through.

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[NIGHTHAWK]

Oysters are about the only thing that I eat that would still be living.

I like a good steak close to alive but just dead enough.

I had Carpaccio the other night. Filet mignon, but it was still carpaccio…

I’ll eat oysters every now and then. Local ones anyway.

 

[Flbt]

Oysters are about the only thing that I eat that would still be living.

I like a good steak close to alive but just dead enough.

That would be it for me to.
But still it’s a live animal.
But I have also boiled a lot alive ( crab and a few lobster and mud bugs)

I know there different from mammals but it’s still worth remembering.

 

[steve white]

Understood. No true offense taken. Context is sometimes difficult to interpret on posts or text. I appreciate your reply.

BTW: They do cook them… Or at least the ones I’ve paid attention to. Where other cultures, more gathering cultures, may eat fish, eel, other sea creatures, grubs, and insects alive and that may be equally offensive to others.

Risk to us, seems to be more scientific and calculated, where cultures with fewer choices have no such sense of measurement. I find that fascinating in a lot of ways. Just like I found the stories (as were told to me directly by him when I was a boy) of my grandfather trapping muskrat, and likely eating them, during the depression.

Truth is, there are plenty of people that take primates for sport or nuisance management and post pictures of them, taxidermy, and proudly display them… And, may never sample or eat the meat or it may not be used. Again, doesn’t offend me. To each their own.

**Monkeys and Baboons can be hell on a thatched roof or a pecan orchard! Just like feral hogs can be on an American farm!

You leave one window open, or the sliding door momentarily and monkeys in the heart of Durban will come in, grab your fruit and take off down the electrical lines holding the loot with one hand. Humorous, unless it's your fruit, and far from the first time.