Blaser R8 - Why do African PH’s and Alaskan Bear Guides Choose Not To Use Blaser R8’s?

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Sorry if I stepped on some tender toes, but as I said, Give me simple. One 375HH is all I need for anything on this earth I care to hunt. Nothing more to lug around and hope I can be(come) proficient with. No decisions as to what I'll carry on which hunt. Just the gun I know and trust and that has proven itself.
Just my thoughts.
 

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I have shot more game with my R8 375 H&H than any other rifle or barrel. Nonetheless, I like having a second barrel in my case. It's usually something smaller in caliber and flatter shooting for PG. My R8 with two barrels fits in a smaller case than one conventional rifle.
 
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Resentment? That certainly does not apply to me. I just do not care what rifle others shoot.

Exception - I care what my family members shoot- not the brand or look, but the performance.

Nor do I care if the members of the opposing skeet team are all shooting Grade A Parkers - more power to them , the payoff is the fun of shooting a gun you like and can hit with.
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So true my friend. It matters not what others shoot with. A man who hunts with a Rigby or H&H either has money or worked their arse off to get one. Who am I to judge which they are.
I have been called a son for having custom rifles but in reality they have cost me less than a model 70, as Sako or even a Ruger No1.
Judge a person not by their rifle but how they shoot and the person they are.
There are a lot of would be if they could be but never will be in this world but I am yet to encounter any on this site.
I enjoy stirring the pot about people's choices the same as they get enjoyment giving back but it is always in fun and jest.
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Sorry if I stepped on some tender toes, but as I said, Give me simple. One 375HH is all I need for anything on this earth I care to hunt. Nothing more to lug around and hope I can be(come) proficient with. No decisions as to what I'll carry on which hunt. Just the gun I know and trust and that has proven itself.
Just my thoughts.

Then why on a separate thread, did you say that you pack a 7 mag or 6.5 along with 40 rounds along with your 375 with 20 rounds?

There’s nothing wrong with packing two guns on a safari, and some gentleman have found a way to do that with less hassle.
 

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Then why on a separate thread, did you say that you pack a 7 mag or 6.5 along with 40 rounds along with your 375 with 20 rounds?

There’s nothing wrong with packing two guns on a safari, and some gentleman have found a way to do that with less hassle.
I see your point and I'm on your side...but there is a little glitch with the above post that should be straightened out.

One R8 receiver and 2 barrels is still only only one rifle no matter how you cut it. If you were to make your own foam cut out, it is conceivable to fit 2 complete R8 rifles in a Pelican 1700. I'm not sure how close this would put you to a 50# weight limit, but I don't believe there would be room for more than 2 (or maybe 3) calibers total by doing this particular combination.

What my wife & I do...each take our own R8's in separate cases. This way if there is a problem, at least we have options to get at least one of the rifles back up and running. Last resort would be a camp rifle (preferably a 375H&H) that I make sure and ask our PH to have available before our trip.

I'd give @Newboomer a little slack on the one caliber issue. He may have posted about taking a couple of different rifles on another thread, but he also may have changed his views. Just one trip to Africa can have such an effect. Simplifying packing by only taking one rifle, like a M70 375H&H is a great way to pair down on weight and it's good for EVERYTHING on the menu. Premium softs and solids (for the T10) and he's done. The one gun safari is alive and well.
 

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I see your point and I'm on your side...but there is a little glitch with the above post that should be straightened out.

One R8 receiver and 2 barrels is still only only one rifle no matter how you cut it. If you were to make your own foam cut out, it is conceivable to fit 2 complete R8 rifles in a Pelican 1700. I'm not sure how close this would put you to a 50# weight limit, but I don't believe there would be room for more than 2 (or maybe 3) calibers total by doing this particular combination.

What my wife & I do...each take our own R8's in separate cases. This way if there is a problem, at least we have options to get at least one of the rifles back up and running. Last resort would be a camp rifle (preferably a 375H&H) that I make sure and ask our PH to have available before our trip.

I'd give @Newboomer a little slack on the one caliber issue. He may have posted about taking a couple of different rifles on another thread, but he also may have changed his views. Just one trip to Africa can have such an effect. Simplifying packing by only taking one rifle, like a M70 375H&H is a great way to pair down on weight and it's good for EVERYTHING on the menu. Premium softs and solids (for the T10) and he's done. The one gun safari is alive and well.
I've done it both ways. On one safari I took only my 375HH with 235gr and 350gr TSXs. On others I had either 7RM or 6.5CR but ALWAYS my 375. If I had to settle for one gun it would be my 375. Granted, the 6.5 and 7 give me more range if needed but I very seldom shoot beyond 300 yds. and only under perfect conditions. I try to stay under 250 yds. My 375HH is good to 300 plus if necessary but I like to stalk as close as possible. That's the fun of it.
If I knew I was going after lighter pg one day I would opt for the 6.5 or 7, depending on which one I had on that safari, because of the weight difference. 7 or 8 lbs is much handier than 11. On an eland or heavy pg day it would be the 375 for the sure kill.
I have no problem with the number of guns one has on a hunt--as long as he is proficient with all of them. It's the guys with the shoulder fired howitzers that they can't manage that irritate me. Recoil intolerance equals poor shooting equals wounded or lost animals.
 

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I have a feeling due to proprietary design Blaser is charging what the market would bear for wood stocks. The custom Turkish walnut stock on my B&M rifle cost me $3,700 (blank was $1,500) including hand checkering and ebony ends etc., etc.. I'd have no issues paying a similar amount of an upgrade charge for similar quality of stock. Paying an extra $15K for a basic factory stock, not so much.

For comparison, I ordered a Heym 88B SxS double rifle some months ago. I wanted a nice Turkish walnut stock for it as well. I paid $750 for a Turkish walnut blank and sent it to Heym along with the order. Now, regular stock manufacturing was already built into the cost so it was just using my blank instead of theirs to produce my rifle. Hopefully I will see it in a month or two.
Not sure where you're getting this $15k number. I'm not super current with Blaser base models but according to this thread assume the very base model is mid $3000, with other synthetic stock versions with more "frills" being $6-7k ish.

I can tell you from first hand experience that they dont charge about extra $15k just for "basic" wood, based on what I paid for a brand new, fully engraved Luxus with fairly high grade wood and a decent amount of gold inlays...
 

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I can tell you from first hand experience that they dont charge about extra $15k just for "basic" wood, based on what I paid for a brand new, fully engraved Luxus with fairly high grade wood and a decent amount of gold inlays...

Baroness is about 17K and goes up from there. I wasn't talking about cheapie Luxus models but those that are more equivalent to Turkish walnut stocks that are on my custom rifles.
 

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@Tanks ”cheapie luxus” is funny. I suppose the wood on one of those might be offensive or even harmful to your eyes!
Yup, but my wife is thrilled with her "cheapie" fully engraved, gold inlaid, Luxus. Or maybe we are fancy because it's a "super luxus"? Definitely not high class since it's not a Baronesse, even though those only had a choice of a handful of game scenes and this lowly luxus has unique engravings:rolleyes::LOL:

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Yup, but my wife is thrilled with her "cheapie" fully engraved, gold inlaid, Luxus. Or maybe we are fancy because it's a "super luxus"? Definitely not high class since it's not a Baronesse, even though those only had a choice of a handful of game scenes and this lowly luxus has unique engravings:rolleyes::LOL:
That is quite a nice rifle. We all have our personal taste. To me, this is truly a fantastic blend of art and function.
 

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Yup, but my wife is thrilled with her "cheapie" fully engraved, gold inlaid, Luxus. Or maybe we are fancy because it's a "super luxus"? Definitely not high class since it's not a Baronesse, even though those only had a choice of a handful of game scenes and this lowly luxus has unique engravings:rolleyes::LOL:
That is indeed both lovely and unique engraving on that rifle. I have never seen stylized thorn done like that. A very special thing.
 

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Yup, but my wife is thrilled with her "cheapie" fully engraved, gold inlaid, Luxus. Or maybe we are fancy because it's a "super luxus"? Definitely not high class since it's not a Baronesse, even though those only had a choice of a handful of game scenes and this lowly luxus has unique engravings:rolleyes::LOL:
By the way everyone, no offense intended to anyone, especially anyone who owns a Baronesse, I was sarcastic about it in particular because it was mentioned specifically.

I'll admit that even as an owner I cant keep track of all Blaser models and differences but to make blanket statements about price or models, especially in an effort to talk down about Blaser, is just silly.

Thanks for all the kind words. It was my dream to have a custom Blaser built one day but we started looking at this couldnt be beat and my wife needed/deserved a safari gun too. All I'll say about the price is that it wasnt $15k extra over a base model and obviously that wasnt just a wood upgrade. I'm impressed with the platform and had I gotten my hands on an R8 at a different point in my life I definitely wouldve bought whatever model I couldve afforded then. I'm a gun nut and they're impressive and among the favorites I/we own and not just because they're pretty lol
 

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