Best Classic Plains Game and Cat Caliber Advise

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  1. Hoss Delgado

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    I would highly recommend a .350 Rigby Magnum firing the 225 grain bullet . I have one , a custom piece built on a ZKK602 action and it serves me really well. I would confidently use it for anything up to an eland .
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    Note : Only Kynoch makes loaded ammunition in this caliber and you can only directly buy from them if you possess a UK rifle certificate. Or else , you will have to purchase the loading components from them and hand load ( which a lot of members here prefer to factory Ammunition anyway ) IMG_20190704_011809.jpg
     
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    You're right about Kynoch. They only use Woodleigh. I am not good at handloading , so unfortunately l have to order all my .350 Rigby Magnum Ammunition from them. I also briefly experimented with a box of their 300 grain round nosed solid FMJ cartridges when l was trying to get better groupings from my .375 HH Magnum
     

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    .300 WM for PG and leopard is my vote! But if only traditional calibers maybe .300 H&H or .275 Rigby
     

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    @Hoss Delgado - you should probably hang on to your empty .350 cases. Probably hard to come by any other way. Just in case you decide to start rolling your own. Or you could sell them..
     

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    Here's a suggestion for a true classic African hunting cartridge that gets no attention from English speaking countries. 7x64 Brenneke. Has been used in Africa for 100 years, can do anything the 7x57 does and offers more range and punch. A strictly sporting round with no military history. Suitable for light, trim rifles and has a flat trajectory, and mild recoil, pairs well with the .404 for versatility. Perfectly suitable for Leopard ( from what I read ) The 7x64 is well known and respected in Namibia and there is a wide selection of good factory loads.
     

  6. Graham Hunter

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    I will be taking one in June 2020.
     

  7. Stalker91

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    @Longwalker I'm going to do some research in to this caliber as I've never had the pleasure it before. I'm still very undecided I think I would like to be able to load a 180gr on PG and maybe a 220gr on the leopard but I'm very versatile as long as it has the energy to do the job once the bullet is in the correct place
     

  8. Red Leg

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    Great caliber - I own a couple (and a couple of 7x65R's). However, essentially duplicated by the .280 Remington. And neither is that much a step up in practical terms over the 7x57/.275. Not much new under the sun out there.
     

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    You do not want a Heavier bullet on leopard. A really big one is a smallish whitetail buck in weight and cat's structure. Quick opening in the lung heart area rather than a 7mm entrance wound and 7.2mm exit with a heavy bullet. 154 or 168 would be my choice as an all purpose 7mm PG bullet with a leopard thrown in.

    The .300 H&H (or Win Mag), on the other hand, with a 180 gr premium load will handle everything with perfect balance.
     
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    Unless you are really into reloading arcane calibers neither the .350 or .318 makes a lot of sense. And as I noted, I own two .318's and have used them a bit. I do not reload, and my carefully hoarded supply of .318 solids and softs are probably enough to see me through. And whatever goes for the .318 goes double for the .350.
     
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  11. Hoss Delgado

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    Then , l would recommend the old American classic , .30-06
     

  12. JakeH

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    Put me down for a .30 cal for your choice. If the .30-06 doesn’t tickle your fancy then I’d bump up to Holland and Holland’s Super-Thirty.
     
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    I agree with Red Leg.
     

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    While doing your research it may be helpful to read some of Finn Aagaard's writings on the 7x64. It was his primary "light" rifle choice for many years as a PH and he held the cartridge in high regard. He took many leopards, and all the plains game species with it. As did many other hunters, but Finn wrote about it. You won't need a bullet heaver than 175-176 grains for hoofed game. And if I was using a 7x64 for leopard, I'd choose a faster 160 gr Nosler partition or RWS H-mantel or similar quick opening bullet that has a rear portion that hangs together to penetrate deeply. It is my understanding that leopards are particularly susceptible to shock from a fast bullet, and so faster ( within reason) is more suitable than heavier bullets for them. Someone with real experience and not book learning please correct my presumption if that is not correct. For what it's worth, I took the heaviest elk I've ever shot (bigger than a typical Oryx or Kudu I suppose) with a 7x64 and 160 gr. RWS Ideal Classic bullet.
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