Anybody with bad knees?

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I deal with this dort of issue constantly in my clinic. With regard to my having no pertinent information about your knee complete the diagnostic testing and gonfrom there. So many possibilities with knee issues. And I do feel your pain literally. I'm currently sitting in a blind as opposed to my preferred stand due to hyperextend my knee Monday. I hope your pains are resolved quickly
 

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I appreciate everyone's replies, and advice.

Picked this up at the pharmacy on my Doctor's recommendation. Up until a few months ago it used to be prescription only. It is now available over the counter.
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Good stuff. My rx was called pensaid 2%. After a long day of hunting and they drop you off at ur cabin and u crawl to it cause ur knees are just killing you. After a shower and applying the gel you can actually walk to the campfire for a beer and supper!!!
 

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I’ve had sore knees for years. To top it off, 2020 being what it is, I slipped and tore my left meniscus. Doc looked at both knees and told me I have serious arthritis in both. Got a cortisone shot in the left back in April which helped a lot. I need to go get another.
Prior to COVID, I used to go to the gym three or four times a week. I’d use the leg press machine. Not only were my legs stronger but my knees didn’t bother me nearly as much. COVID hit about the same time I tore the meniscus and I stopped going to the gym. Within a month the right knee started bothering me. Coincidence?
 

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Brent in AZ,

I'm glad you started this post. It gives those of us with chronic knee pain suggestions to discuss with our doctor(s) and what OTC products are available that actually work.

I have arthritis in both my knees, so I know your pain.

When my knees get to bothering me, to help alleviate some of the pain, I do knee bends till they no longer snap, crackle, pop.

I Went deer hunting opening day of deer archery season, killed a deer, by the time I got the deer to my truck, altogether about 2 to 2+ miles of walking my knees were shot. I spent nearly two weeks recovering from the pain and stiffness in both knees.

I had to wear knee braces to move around during the day and at night rubbed my knees down with Ben Gay and took regular doses of aspirin to relieve the pain enough to get some sleep.

The doc's at the V.A. say, according to my x-rays, my knees dont have enough arthritis in them to qualify for knee replacements (sarcasm: bet if it were their knees and they were in this much pain they would qualify) and offer to do injections. I had the injections; lasted about a week before the knee pains returned.

Those that I have talked with that had knee replacements are 50/50; some say they would have had the surgery years ago, while others say they wished they never had the surgery, because their knee pain and/or mobility are worse than before the surgery.
 

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I had 30% of the meniscus removed from my knee, after an injury from a mountain rescue that we did. I work for the fire department. I saw a knee specialist that is also a hunter/bowhunter a couple years later. his recommendation was glucosamine. He goes there’s no downside to taking it and it helps a lot. I know that’s a Relatively simple fix/solution but, he said that is one of the best thing you can do for yourself. His comment was people don’t eat gristle, tendons, connective tissue like they used to be before we became so affluent. That connective tissue that was in Joints helped make the connective tissue in our knees and shoulders and other joints. Don’t know if it’s true, but, repeating what was said to me by a doctor.

He also commented that a lot of Americans are overweight, that does not help our knees either
 

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My brother and also my business partner have bad knees. To rebuild up joints take Chondroiten and Glucosamime. That is the active stuff in the typical arthritis tablets, but there is too little of it. Then also take MSM which is the natural pain killer specifically for joints. This 3 way cocktail is like an alternative for eating the gristle etc and the results are amazing and quite fast. I take it for arthritis in toe joints and fingers, problem has gone.
 

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I've had one bum knee from playing football back in the day. All my meniscus was removed and all the ligaments were torn off. My doctor actually told me I would never play sports again (he was wrong and I got a new doctor!) It's essentially bone on bone so I have to be careful about jogging or even walking....even then it just sometimes blows up like beach ball and sometimes for no apparent reason.

Like Kevin & 1dirthawker mentioned above - I take a lot of supplements for joint health. Don't skimp on the price and get quality though. No use to spend good money on inferior products that don't work very well.
Also, don't overlook icing the hell out of it for a few times day for awhile - really helps the body get the blood flowing and promotes healing.
Every time it acts up on me I think of going back to a specialist and see if they could do anything for it since the technology has drastically improved since I had my surgery. But it is so intermittent I haven't yet....time will tell!
 

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Just on my way home from knee surgery now. Removed a floater and repaired the miniscus in my right knee.
 

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So is it normal when doing squats to hear something like a tin can full of raw asparagus being crushed. I have been doing didly squats mostly these days.
 

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I´ve had meniscus operated in both knees, and have some arthritis which is quite normal at my age, 70.

I take a dietary supplement which is specific for joints, and walk at least one hour every day, or do static cycling on rainy days, sometimes both. No running or any activity which will impact my joints.

So far I´m coping with it, mild pain now and then, with weather changes. Can hunt on foot all day long (at a leisurely pace, of course).
 
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I don't mean to complain about my health, but my knees are trashed. I had to sacrifice this hunting season. My remaining good knee has been giving me grief suddenly over the last few weeks.

Doctor wants to get some pictures, and blood work, to see what's going on. I've been taking Tylenol/Ibuprofen by the truckload, which isn't healthy in continual large quantities.

Anybody have problems, and how do you deal with it.? The thought of knee replacement kind of freaks me out.
@Brent in Az
Mate take another hand full of drugs and keep on truck'n.
Put up with it as long as you can. My shoulder has been stuffed for 7 years and now finally having surgery on January 13th next year. I won't be able to shoot anything bigger than my 22 hornet for 12 months but that doesn't mean I can't still enjoy hunting and being in the bush with my some.
Truthfully tho get done what you need ASAP so you can recover quicker and get back in the saddle.
Bob
 

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What's a floater?

Random material that has broken free and is floating around under the kneecap. You can be relatively pain free for months and then it moves into the wrong g spot and your knee locks up and is incredibly painful. Mine was much larger than they expected and had to be broken up before they could remove it.
 

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2 thoughts

1. It looks like Arizona has approved medical Marijuana. If you don't want to go that route, perhaps cbd would help.

2. Check with a pain management dr who specializes in restorative treatment instead of just painkillers. Dont ask a orthopedic- they are dicks who want to operate. Your injury may benefit from PRP injections. They draw your blood, spin it in some machine that separates particles, and they inject the platelet rich plasma into your knee. This is not a therapeutic shot, this is intended to promote healing and be permanent. I took a glute muscle years back and I could never get it to heal. 1 shot made it much better. Only problem is they are not covered by insurance in the US and they range from $300-700 a piece (depending on how much profit the dr wants to make) and you will need 1-2 in each knee. They have been using it in Europe for decades
 

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I tried CBD. The only thing I accomplished with that, was wasting $60 on a bottle of it.

Marijuana, is a big no for me.
 
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When I push on it, it hurts worse
@Brent in Az
Life's a bitch mate nobody tells you what its like getting older. You always hear retired people saying it's great, best time o f your life BUT the neglect to tell you about all the aches a n d pains that go with it.
The worst part is the brain still tells us we can still do at 60 what we did at 25. Don't listen to it it's lying to you. Attempt it and suffer.
I'm at the stage I told my Doctor I'm not coming to see her because every time I do she finds something else wrong.
One thing about getting old is you don't have to worry about the expiry date on food you just hope you last long enough to eat it.
Bob
 

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Fun sifting through all these threads. I am an orthopedic surgeon with a bad right knee. I can still walk flat five miles plus, but not good on the descent. Sheep hunting is now in my past (have my grand slam, two with a bow), but still have a passion for the elephant, and would love to hunt a Lord Derby Eland. I have several upcoming hunts with my stepson for non trophy elephant in Matetsei, spiral horned antelope Limpopo, and with Zambezi Delta with four of the tiny ten plus Nyala in Mozambique that have all been Covid-19 postponed. Enough about me.

For knee pain you should have an evaluation to find out what is wrong. this would include an interview, exam and standard x rays. There may be a mechanical problem from a meniscus tear, the cushion or spacer between the Femur and the Tibia. May need MRI documentation. This is easily resolved with physical therapy with or without corticosteroid injection, and possibly arthroscopic management. For a degenerative knee where the cartilage covering the bone is eroding or damaged there are different options. These would include again some physical therapy, consideration of injectional therapy to include corticosteroids or possibly viscosupplementation, a glucosamine / hyaluronase substrate. This was initially derived from the Coxcomb of the rooster, but now is synthetically generated. This is a thick viscous slurry that is in one large injection, or in a series of three smaller injections. Like coats of paint on a wall. Makes the joint more slippery, and less sore. Peak effect longer than steroid. Two of three will be improved for up to anywhere from six months or beyond. Bracing to shift the weight away from the damaged side of the joint can be effective. Most people with try nonsurgical measures before pursuing surgical treatment. For Tibiofemoral arthritis ( between the femur and tibia or shin bone) arthroplasty or replacement surgery is entertained for failure of conservative treatment measures. This could be a partial replacement if only one of the compartments is involved, or a total knee replacement if there is three compartment disease. The compartments being inside or medial joint, outside or lateral joint, and the patellofemoral or knee cap joint. The patellofemoral joint has its own special treatment considerations. Recovery will generally be three to six months and give you a B+ knee. Risks include infection (generally less than 1%), blood clot with possible pulmonary embolus, joint stiffness, or instability, and ultimately wear of the implants requiring revision surgery. Not to be taken lightly.

My two cents. Hopefully this helps those with bum knees to make more appropriate decisions about there choices for future care. Good hunting and be safe. TG
 

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@brent, glad to know I am not alone. Just hope cigars do not lead to knee deterioration. LOL

Three knee surgeries, and from my surgeon, my meniscus in both knees shot. Advised to have them replaced in time, but waiting a fee years to age 65 as I was told the replacement wears well for about 15 years, so that gets me to 80. I am sure @tgreene would know about these things better than my second hand info. I did return from Africa last year and both my knees were killing me. Nothing was helping, so was prescribed Meloxicam and that actually reduced the pain to nothing. I assume I just exacerbated my knees hiking and climbing into nite blinds. Anyway, bum knees are no fun. And if I hear another doctor say “as we age, our bodies blah, blah, blah” I’ll puke.
 

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@Brent in Az
Mate take another hand full of drugs and keep on truck'n.
Put up with it as long as you can. My shoulder has been stuffed for 7 years and now finally having surgery on January 13th next year. I won't be able to shoot anything bigger than my 22 hornet for 12 months but that doesn't mean I can't still enjoy hunting and being in the bush with my some.
Truthfully tho get done what you need ASAP so you can recover quicker and get back in the saddle.
Bob
learn to shoot lefty now
 

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