Another Suppressor Thread

[KPinOKC]

First, understand that 30 years of competitive baseball has trashed my right shoulder. It is arthritic to the point my orthopedist has told me I need a full replacement sooner rather than later, and there’s not much else to be done. So, while I was never bothered by recoil as a younger man, it does bother me now. Also, many years of hunting and shooting as a young man without ear protection has done a number on my hearing, and I want to keep what little I have. So, I plan on having the barrel threaded and installing a suppressor with a brake. There are a few options for big bore calibers that will accommodate a .416.

I know many purists hate the look of a suppressor and I respect everyone’s point of view and opinions, but I have always been a function before form, substance before style, kind of guy. I’m not bothered by the look. I also find it somewhat confusing that hunters that insist that a 3-position safety and control feed action are absolute minimum requirements for dangerous game don’t give allowance for how much quicker and more accurately a hunter can administer follow up shots with a good suppressor/brake system. The .416 Taylor recoils about 10lbs less than the Rigby but is still around 50lbs of recoil. A good suppressor/brake system can reduce this by over 60%, resulting in a suppressed and braked .416 Taylor recoiling like a .308 Win. Also, much, much quieter than open muzzle.

I plan to take the barrel down from 23” to 21” and use a suppressor/brake around 8”, so 29” barrel length, but on a short action rifle, still just about 48” overall. That’s only an inch and half longer than my .300 Weatherby. Losing 2” of barrel saves about 6oz, so total weight gain with suppressor/brake is about 6oz. I think the tradeoff in greatly reduced recoil and report, as well as improved accuracy and quickness on follow ups, is worth the tradeoff in length and weight. At least for me.

OR, I could sell the .416 Taylor and buy a .416 Ruger Guide Gun with a 20” barrel which is already threaded. Doesn’t solve my scarce ammo situation, but really no worse than with the Taylor.

 

[widetrackjack]

First, understand that 30 years of competitive baseball has trashed my right shoulder. It is arthritic to the point my orthopedist has told me I need a full replacement sooner rather than later, and there’s not much else to be done. So, while I was never bothered by recoil as a younger man, it does bother me now. Also, many years of hunting and shooting as a young man without ear protection has done a number on my hearing, and I want to keep what little I have. So, I plan on having the barrel threaded and installing a suppressor with a brake. There are a few options for big bore calibers that will accommodate a .416.

I know many purists hate the look of a suppressor and I respect everyone’s point of view and opinions, but I have always been a function before form, substance before style, kind of guy. I’m not bothered by the look. I also find it somewhat confusing that hunters that insist that a 3-position safety and control feed action are absolute minimum requirements for dangerous game don’t give allowance for how much quicker and more accurately a hunter can administer follow up shots with a good suppressor/brake system. The .416 Taylor recoils about 10lbs less than the Rigby but is still around 50lbs of recoil. A good suppressor/brake system can reduce this by over 60%, resulting in a suppressed and braked .416 Taylor recoiling like a .308 Win. Also, much, much quieter than open muzzle.

I plan to take the barrel down from 23” to 21” and use a suppressor/brake around 8”, so 29” barrel length, but on a short action rifle, still just about 48” overall. That’s only an inch and half longer than my .300 Weatherby. Losing 2” of barrel saves about 6oz, so total weight gain with suppressor/brake is about 6oz. I think the tradeoff in greatly reduced recoil and report, as well as improved accuracy and quickness on follow ups, is worth the tradeoff in length and weight. At least for me.

OR, I could sell the .416 Taylor and buy a .416 Ruger Guide Gun with a 20” barrel which is already threaded. Doesn’t solve my scarce ammo situation, but really no worse than with the Taylor.

I run a suppressor in every situation where they are permitted/legal. I can’t afford to lose any more of my high frequency hearing. When it is not legal to use a suppressor, I use a break on my larger rifles and use noise canceling ear muffs or Axil hearing protectors. Once you use a suppressor, you will never want to hunt/shoot without it. Your PH or guide will appreciate it as well.

 

[Mekaniks]

Suppressors are very common outside the US. They are becoming more “mainstream “ here in the US all the time….
So IMO… Just do it

 

[samson7x]

What suppressor are you planning on using? I cut my 375 down from 25” to 20” and love it. I’m using a TBAC magnus S-RR and the brake makes a significant difference in recoil.

 

[KPinOKC]

What suppressor are you planning on using? I cut my 375 down from 25” to 20” and love it. I’m using a TBAC magnus S-RR and the brake makes a significant difference in recoil.

I wanted to use a Magnus S rr and would swear I saw TBAC was making one to fit up to .460 but now can’t find it. May be mistaken and got mixed up with the 46M and ASR brake combo. If TBAC doesn’t have one to work, I guess the 46M.

 

[coreydb]

Somarriba brakes are very effective in recoil reduction. Look them up and see if it satisfies your requirements.

 

[KPinOKC]

Somarriba brakes are very effective in recoil reduction. Look them up and see if it satisfies your requirements.

I don’t see where they make a brake. They do offer the ASR brake which is what is was planning on using in tandem with a 46M suppressor.

 

[BryceM]

So, shoot big bores (well, at least medium bores), use supressors, and I do shoulder replacements.

Get one! If you can't find exactly what you want, call the people that make them and get a custom can made. It might take a couple hours of calling around. No biggie.

And don't be so afraid to get a replacement. They work pretty well. For the record, I detest brakes.

 

[EjectorSwipe]

Suppressors are great, however, as someone who has a 416 ruger with a suppressor, expecting it to kick like a 308 is not reasonable. It makes the recoil much more tolerable and spreads it out over a longer time but still gives a deep tissue massage. Keep in mind ruger does not use standard threads if you get a guide gun.

 

[112Savage]

Check out AB suppressors. I know they make 375 in the raptor but I don’t know about 416.
I have personally shot an AB10 with 5” reflex and it was simply awesome.

Also Rex silentium makes large diameter suppressors and custom diameters/lengths

Shooting a 30-06 Blaser with light weight carbon fiber stock with suppressor versus a Dakota 76 without. I would say the suppressed rifle felt like 25% less recoil. The recoil just felt completely different.

 

[Bandera]

The AB is a reflex only up to a 375 Cal. I have one on order.
The Hybrid 46 is a 45 cal can, I have one and use it on a hot loaded 45-70. I believe it will handle 416 Ruger pressures.

 

[Hunt anything]

When I had Montana Rifle Company make my .416 Rigby they asked if I wanted it threaded for a suppressor, i didnt at the time but regret that decision. Especially now that the $200 government extortion fee has been dropped.
@KPinOKC , On a side note who did you play for and what years?

 

[KPinOKC]

Suppressors are great, however, as someone who has a 416 ruger with a suppressor, expecting it to kick like a 308 is not reasonable. It makes the recoil much more tolerable and spreads it out over a longer time but still gives a deep tissue massage. Keep in mind ruger does not use standard threads if you get a guide gun.

Did your suppressor have a brake? The suppressor/brake combos I’ve seen claim >60% recoil reduction.

 

[KPinOKC]

When I had Montana Rifle Company make my .416 Rigby they asked if I wanted it threaded for a suppressor, i didnt at the time but regret that decision. Especially now that the $200 government extortion fee has been dropped.
@KPinOKC , On a side note who did you play for and what years?

Just up to college. Texas Tech 79-81.

 

[KPinOKC]

The AB is a reflex only up to a 375 Cal. I have one on order.
The Hybrid 46 is a 45 cal can, I have one and use it on a hot loaded 45-70. I believe it will handle 416 Ruger pressures.

Ad for 46M claims it will handle 460 Weatherby.

 

[Hunt anything]

Just up to college. Texas Tech 79-81.

Just college is still pretty good baseball!

 

[KPinOKC]

Just college is still pretty good baseball!

I went to a Reds camp right out of high school and the offered to draft me if I would agree to play with them. I would have had to work my way out of the minors to see any real money, and would have lost my chance to have my college paid for so I declined.

 

[Hunt anything]

I went to a Reds camp right out of high school and the offered to draft me if I would agree to play with them. I would have had to work my way out of the minors to see any real money, and would have lost my chance to have my college paid for so I declined.

I was at Auburn from ‘83-‘86, then in the Braves organization until’92, I had it in my contract that they would pay if I went back to finish my degree which I took full advantage of.
College ball was A Lot more fun!

 

[EjectorSwipe]

Did your suppressor have a brake? The suppressor/brake combos I’ve seen claim >60% recoil reduction.

I don’t have the brake cap for mine, I have the 46m hybrid though. Perhaps the recoil reduction isn’t quite as good because it’s a 46 cal on a 416. It’s still fairly loud but you can hear the 400gr bullet hit an animal easily. My suppressor on my 300 win mag is incredible for recoil, but it is a 30 cal can.

 

[Rumrunner]

Following. I would really like to put a suppressor/brake on my .416 RemMag