8-06 users ?

[yumastepside]

Anyone using an 8mm-06, standard or improved ?
What are your opinions, loads, favourite projectiles and weights, etc......pics too please.

Roger

 

[Hedge774]

Sounds really cool. A 318-06 sounds pretty gangster.

 

[John Wasmuth]

One of my all time favorite hog cartridges. Nothing in North America that it won’t flatten out. I used to use Barnes original 220’s on everything.

 

[Killingtime]

Anyone using an 8mm-06, standard or improved ?
What are your opinions, loads, favourite projectiles and weights, etc......pics too please.

Roger

Never really considered it. Sounds pretty interesting but you could just get a 8mmx64. I love the 338-06 also it’s a incredible round

 

[yumastepside]

Yes, a 318-06 would be OK, but I went with the 8mm-06 Imp. because of the availability of 8mm pills and the buckets of .270 cases and the improved reamer that I already have.
With only .15 thou. difference between .338 and 8mm.....not much in it . To be honest there's not much between the three of them.... 318 and 8-06 Imp below.

Roger

 

[SaintPanzer]

OK, I'll ask out of simple ignorance:
8mmX63mm vice 7.62X63mm? A difference of 0.38mm diameter in the same case size? How different would that really be?

 

[yumastepside]

If you're talking about the difference between a 30-06 and an 8-06...15 thou....even that small amount makes a difference.....its all about the larger frontal area....the larger frontal area, the larger the wound channel.
30-06, up 15 thou to....8-06, up 15 thou to...338, and so on and so forth.

 

[Striger]

I had a friend/mentor back in the 70's who was a big fan of the 8mm/06, and years later a co-worker gave me a set of reloading dies for one. They're still in a box somewhere.

It seems that I'm not the only one who likes to rename cartridges. I refer to my .280 Rem as the .275 Whelen (with a nod to Rigby).

Thanks for the memories OP.

 

[txtrout75218]

Was a pretty common wildcat with surplus German Mausers. Simply take a 30-06 reamer to a 8x57 and vola, 8-06. Was en easy way to use liberated and surplus rifles after the war. Quality Cartridge used to offers special run brass, but they say they will make a run with a big enough order. Not sure how many it takes to make a special run.

Too bad it's about impossible to find head stamped brass. It would really be a nice cartridge for Africa or anywhere else.

Regardless, I have an older gunsmith friend that says it is an excellent cartridge, and makes sense. The 8mm-06 outperforms the 8x57 Mauser by providing a 150 to 200 feet per second increase in muzzle velocity and 300 to 500 foot-pounds more muzzle energy. That's a noticeable difference basically a twin to the 8x64mm Brenneke.

I tend to avoid wildcats, but it has always been interesting to me.

 

[BFaucett]

And then there's the 8x60 and 8x60S cartridges to further muddy the waters. I thought this might be of interest as the case dimensions of the 8x60S and the 8mm-06 are so similar.

Personally, I'm a fan of the ol' 8x57JS. I have a Remington Model 700 Classic (2004 edition) chambered in 8x57JS (aka "8mm Mauser").

Just my two cents... Cheers! Bob F.


Cartridge Board - 8x60S
by Gil Sengel
https://www.handloadermagazine.com/cartridge-board-8

8×60mm S
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/8×60mm_S

Dear Ron: More Info on 8x60 Mauser Please
By Ron Spomer
https://www.ronspomeroutdoors.com/blog/info-on-8x60-mauser

I took this photo some years ago.

From the article by Gil Sengel at the link above.

Little ol' me:

Remington Model 700 Classic 8x57JS [South Africa 2005]
handload: 220 gr Woodleigh RN at 2400 fps MV

 

[dchamp]

I am in the process of building a 8mm-06 AI. My son is the machinest/gunsmith doing the work. We have all the parts, just waiting on the reamer. Hopefully it will show up in the next week or two.

At first we were thinking about doing a 8mm Brenneke but decided not to because of difficulty in aquiruring brass here in the U.S.

 

[leslie hetrick]

made sense after ww-2 to get thoses returning 98 mauser 8x57,s shooting, not so much now, with good cases being available. i have a swedish civilian made 98 mauser in 8x57( model 640 i think) that i like.

 

[mauser98]

I have an 8mm-06, great performance. A 200gr Nosler accubond nearing 2800 fps is no joke. Had this put together in 2021 and had some good results with it thus far. IMO it's better compared to the 338-06 rather than the 30-06.

 

[Bob Nelson 35Whelen]

Anyone using an 8mm-06, standard or improved ?
What are your opinions, loads, favourite projectiles and weights, etc......pics too please.

Roger

@yumastepside
Roger
Many years ago the 8mm/06 was a popular conversion for the 98 Mauser in 8x57. Brass was hard to find and it was a simple job to run an 06 reamer into it ( plus a little bit more). That way you had plenty of brass you could simply neck up and load.
Bob

 

[Bob Nelson 35Whelen]

I had a friend/mentor back in the 70's who was a big fan of the 8mm/06, and years later a co-worker gave me a set of reloading dies for one. They're still in a box somewhere.

It seems that I'm not the only one who likes to rename cartridges. I refer to my .280 Rem as the .275 Whelen (with a nod to Rigby).

Thanks for the memories OP.

@Striger
The 275 Whelen just exudes class.
Sounds better than a boring old 280 REM.
Would sound good talking around a campfire.
Oh and what ride are you using??
Just a 275 Whelen
A what??
And on goes the conversation full of bullshit.
Bob

 

[matt85]

I see people talking about both .318" and .323". I wouldnt recommend .318", ive got an 8mm rifle that uses that diameter and bullets are somewhat rare. Now .323" would be fine and would make for a unique rifle in the collection.

 

[SaintPanzer]

OK, so I get there would be an "improvement" over the 7.62mm. But if I were going to do that, why not just bump it to a .35 Whelen? I mean, if I were filling out a battery, I'd probably go .25-06, then .30-06, then .35 Whelen. That covers North America. Bigger than that, .375 H&H.

I mean, it's not like the 8mm is going to kill a white tail "more dead" than the 7.62. If there's something the .30-06 would be marginal on, I'd want to step it up a bit more than 8mm. But that's just me.

I guess it does make sense that I could convert a 8X57 Mauser. Easier to re-ream the chamber than to re-barrel.

 

[yumastepside]

@yumastepside
Roger
Many years ago the 8mm/06 was a popular conversion for the 98 Mauser in 8x57. Brass was hard to find and it was a simple job to run an 06 reamer into it ( plus a little bit more). That way you had plenty of brass you could simply neck up and load.
Bob

I agree Bob, I have a bloke at our local range that shoots off a couple of boxes of 270's a week and doesn't reload....so plenty of free brass !
Plus I have a 270 RCBS improved reamer ( 30 Deg. shoulder ) that I bush the pilot for whatever calibre....it matches the 6.5-06 RCBS M70 Winchester that Larry Simms gave me many years ago...If you look at Nick Harvey's reloading manual under .265 RCBS, thats my actual rifle.
At the moment I'm only using 170 gr Hornady's for the Fallow down here but I want to develop a 200 and 250gr load as well.....I'm hoping to duplicate the 250gr 318 WR load.... just because !!

Roger

 

[yumastepside]

OK, so I get there would be an "improvement" over the 7.62mm. But if I were going to do that, why not just bump it to a .35 Whelen? I mean, if I were filling out a battery, I'd probably go .25-06, then .30-06, then .35 Whelen. That covers North America. Bigger than that, .375 H&H.

I mean, it's not like the 8mm is going to kill a white tail "more dead" than the 7.62. If there's something the .30-06 would be marginal on, I'd want to step it up a bit more than 8mm. But that's just me.

I guess it does make sense that I could convert a 8X57 Mauser. Easier to re-ream the chamber than to re-barrel.

OK, why not bump it up to.400.....in the end it all comes down to personal preference......personally my choices are 6.5, 8mm and .400, sometimes its because that's the calibre barrel you have to do something with, sometimes its because you hate .243 ( G'Day Bob )
There is no " more dead " by going to a bigger calibre...dead by .22 or dead by .577 is dead....its preference, if everyone used the same calibre/cartridge it would be " dead " boring.

Roger

 

[PerH]

For a factory option that has brass and dies around also is 8x64 S Brenneke , load and data for 220 TOG is around . their Bonded bullet .

Rimmed version is 8x65RS

Brenneke necked down case to 7 mm ad created the 7x64 .