350gr swift A frames

[Papabear55]

Anyone have experience with these bullets in 45-70?

 

[Papabear55]

No one?

 

[Inline6]

I have shot 450 TSX out of my 458Lott, a 350 would be in the upper 2500 to low 2600.

Having used the AFrame line, I would ask Swift what their thoughts are. If they will open up at that speed, you should not have many problems. Just be aware, the 350s will not have a hi SD. Something to consider.

 

[Wishfulthinker580]

I have shot 450 TSX out of my 458Lott, a 350 would be in the upper 2500 to low 2600.

Having used the AFrame line, I would ask Swift what their thoughts are. If they will open up at that speed, you should not have many problems. Just be aware, the 350s will not have a hi SD. Something to consider.

True. Not a thick skinned DG bullet but that is what Swift’s factory 45-70 load is loaded with so it should perform well. Different design than the standard a frame

 

[meigsbucks]

No, but it should be a heck of a short range, <150yd, PG bullet. I’ve used the 350gr Hornady on deer and hogs: devastating. I worked up a load for a 350gr Barnes TSX, but testing didn’t show good expansion. Velocity was ~2100fps from a Ruger #3. Used H4198.

 

[Papabear55]

This is one I recovered in water jugs. At 50yds it went through 7 1gal milk jugs full of water, only lost 1gr. I feel like it would make a decent DG bullet, certainly wouldn't be the worst choice

 

[Forrest Halley]

This is one I recovered in water jugs. At 50yds it went through 7 1gal milk jugs full of water, only lost 1gr. I feel like it would make a decent DG bullet, certainly wouldn't be the worst choice

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Something to consider, in testing 300 BLK Hornady Sub X for expansion, I found that 2 liter soda bottles were better at stopping bullets than milk jugs. Five milk jugs through and through was stopped in four 2 liter bottles.

 

[Inline6]

@Papabear55

It would not meet the energy requirements in most African countries for DG. I'm sure you could find a guide that would be okay with it.

 

[crs]

I shoot 350 grain .458 bullets in a couple of my rifles and they killed all they hit.
These were North Fork bullets and none were recovered - all shoot throughs.
I do not waste NF bullets on milk jugs and such.

 

[1dirthawker]

i have not used the 350 swifts, i suspect they will work just fine tho. is it a flat point? i used the kodiak bullet company's 350 gr bonded at 2150 fps. i suspect they would kill anything i wanted to shoot with a soft. as @crs noted, north fork bullets are awesome as well.

 

[crs]

1Dirthawker,
+1 on the Kodiak bullets. Our bullet testing team used them & NF in Africa -- both 450 grain solids shot through ele heads and into body -- DRT! Soft points were good on Cape buff.

 

[Papabear55]

i have not used the 350 swifts, i suspect they will work just fine tho. is it a flat point? i used the kodiak bullet company's 350 gr bonded at 2150 fps. i suspect they would kill anything i wanted to shoot with a soft. as @crs noted, north fork bullets are awesome as well.

They are a flat point

 

[1dirthawker]

as stated before, i suspect they will work just fine. was merely concerned about magazine issues, (detonation)

 

[Papabear55]

as stated before, i suspect they will work just fine. was merely concerned about magazine issues, (detonation)

They will mostly be used for moose and brown bear anyhow

 

[1dirthawker]

I've killed both with the 45-70 and it works!