284 selection

Discussion in 'Up To .375' started by sgt_zim, Mar 26, 2017.

  1. Dr Ray

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    What would you be hunting? Personally I would suggest the 270 Winchester with a good 130-140 grain bullet if you're after deer or similar sized animals.
     
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    :ROFLMAO:

    270...I don't see a point. not a big bullet selection in .277, and there's a huge selection in both .264 and .284.

    7 Rem Mag...inside 300 yards, there's no appreciable difference between it and a 280, and while there's a difference between 7 Rem Mag and 7mm-08, deer and pigs seem to be indifferent to it.

    non-mag ammo is cheaper and easier on barrels, and I shoot (and reload) a lot.

    i expect that if i ever buy any magnum, it'll be at least a 375.
     
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    My two bits on .284 /7mm's - we've had bunch of them couple of 7-08's. 7X57. 280. 7mm SAUM. and 7mm Weatherby - they are all great hunting cartridges, you can't really go wrong.

    The only thing I would warn you about is that in my opinion, the overall performance in the short barrelled (18 and 20's) compact 7-08's is considerably less than what you get from the full length full size barrels. Almost like two different calibres. Right now we have a Model 7 - short barrelled compact and a Model 700 Mountain rifle with a 24 inch barrel, we shoot the same bullets in both, slightly different loads, and we have always have been dissapointed in results from the compact rifles.

    I noticed that you posted your wife is a smaller person, so chances are a compact rifle would be ideal, but I wouldn't look past going for a lightweight full size and altering / shortening the stock.

    As for recoil - the 7-08 undoubtably is the winner - but using reduced loads in a 7x57 or 280 will do the same thing, and then you always have the option to use heavier loads once/or if she gets to be more comfortable
     

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    "Smaller" being a relative term. She's smaller than I am, but so is everybody (6'6" and 240#). She's a skosh under 6' and maybe 155. She just hasn't shot much besides a 22LR, and I want to introduce her to centerfire gently. Might even go down to 257 Roberts.

    I only own 2 rifles with barrels shorter than 22" - 1895G and an AR-15.
     
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    7mm-08 is easier on barrels but up here it ain't so easy on the wallet, way more expensive than 7mm mag
     

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    I'm a skosh over that, a beanpole all my life, and I'm shooting a 28 Nosler in a Tee shirt. The brake helps. I'd have a can on it but they are illegal in my state. :( For your purposes, a heavy caliber with a supressor may be the ticket.
     

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    suppressors are legal in Texas, but you still have to get the Class III to be able to buy one. most of the deer and pigs that I have access to are no larger than 150#, and generally closer than about 200 yds. I've got the medicine for long range shooting, but those are "rugged" hunts that I wouldn't bring her on anyway. Remember, this is to be the wife's rifle, and I'll only use it as option if she decides she doesn't really like it.
     
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    A Ruger No.1 can be had in 7-08, 7x57 and .280 Rem. My personal favorite of all the 7's is probably the 7x64, but I have a super shooting CZ 550 in the cal. The .280 Rem was my favorite for years and of course those two are peas in a pod. Love the 7x57/.275 Rigby. Fired a half inch group today out of my .275 No.1 with 175 gr RN bullets and Re22 powder. Great rifle. Did have a 7-08 briefly but frankly it didn't do it for me, no charisma! We just used a .284 Win in Africa for the second time. Same rifle I took my first two deer with in the 60's, now its my sons rifle and he shoots it well. It loves 140gr Barnes Tripe Shocks at just over 3000 fps.
     
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    What did you use on that giant bull eland?
     

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    Started with my '06, ended with PH's BRNO .375 mag. Poor shooting on my part, no fault of rifle or load.
     
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    Have all 3 calibers. From a recoil perspective - 7x57 in Ruger #1 is lightest recoil (and it's fairly mild), 280 rem in model 700 cdl has the most recoil (and it's near a 7mm mag), 7mm-08 in the synthetic mountain model is the betweener - but closer in recoil to the 280 than the 7x57. all very capable of taking pg with a quality bullet.
     

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    Really?
    Odd, I have one and it's definitely cheaper on the wallet than the mag. Barnes Vor Tx ammo is almost $8 higher for the magnum from what I've seen.
     

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    I'm in Canada who knows why but 08 is costly
     
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    And for me, there's never been enough difference between the .270 and the 7mm mag to justify the extra $10 a box for ammo and the 20% more recoil. And the availability is way better than that of the .280.

    Honestly, any upgrade in power over a .270 is minimal until you go to a .300WM or a medium bore. For me, the .270 is damn near perfect.
     
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    Craig Bonnington wrote an article recently on this very topic. His conclusion was that the 7-08, and 7x57 were very similar (differences stated above) but that the .280 was a definite step up in power. Going with the .280 gives the option of more load flexibility and perhaps reaming to AI configuration at a later date.
     

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    I have the sweetest shooting .284 Winchester and still one of my most favorite guns. I do not reload as I have so many friends who do, but if anyone has a good line on an ammo supplier, custom or other, with cartridges for a .284 Winchester, pls let me know. They are as scarce as hens teeth.
     

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