Enfield 1917/P14 magnum magazine box and follower.

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So I have ended up with a few of these box magazines over the years. I like them, but could never find a source to reliably purchase them.
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It has an internal measurements 3.75, so I can built close to whatever I want on it. Well I was down to my last one, I tried to hand cut one out an bend it up. My product was not up to par. So I took it to my local sheet metal guy and asked if he could duplicate it. He said leave it with my, and I'll see what I can do.
He nailed it, pretty hard to tell them apart. So I had him make me 80 pcs.
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The one on top was the original. "AWESOME, LOVE IT!"

We'll then my buddy Pete says "Now we just need to figure out the follower!" Well Crap!

So using Wiesner's formula from an old article, I fed the measurements into AI and asked it for a 3D model I could print.
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Armed with this, I asked my 13 year old son if he could 3D print it. Turned out he could, but then he says "Dad why don't you sand cast it in aluminum after I print it?" We had done a science experiment where he casted a bronze axe. Well I thought that was brilliant. So below is 3D printed version (R), along with a sand casted version (L).
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I asked AI to program a holding fixture I could use in my mill, boom.
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This is the first aluminum magnum follower. So proof of concept is complete.
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I think this is going to work.

What am I missing?
 
Yes how much????
I am still really trying to refine thing. I am waiting on tooling to cut the slot for the spring in the folliwer.
Ray H
 
How about just a mag box?
Hmm, I'm not sure.

For those of you asking about buying a magazine box. Please be aware that this box is larger than the production magazine, and will require some milling work to fit in the 1917s and P14s.

That said if you want one I can mail you one. I am thinking $50 shipped (USA). Does that sound fair? That is about what I would need to sell them I think. Ebay sells 1917 magazine boxes for $35-$40 (sometimes a bit cheaper, but on average) and I think it is about $12 to do USPS flat rate from here (Alaska) to the lower 48.

Ray H
 
Lol, felt like something was missing.
Yup, that IS what was missing alright. Glad I could help. ;)

I guess I better send you $100 just to keep you from getting a hernia moving that big box of little boxes around. I would not want to be responsible for seeing you get hurt. I am a nice guy that-a-way. PM incoming.
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Ok, I think I'll get some more boxes made for sale. I have actions for 60 of these. That said I can sell 20 and then I'll get some more made.

So that it is transparent here are pictures of my 550 magnum with this style of magazine, an un-milled 1917 and an un-milled P14 with one of mine on top.

Magazine fitted to my 550 magnum.
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Un-milled 1917
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Un-milled P14
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Ray H
 
Hmm, I'm not sure.

For those of you asking about buying a magazine box. Please be aware that this box is larger than the production magazine, and will require some milling work to fit in the 1917s and P14s.

That said if you want one I can mail you one. I am thinking $50 shipped (USA). Does that sound fair? That is about what I would need to sell them I think. Ebay sells 1917 magazine boxes for $35-$40 (sometimes a bit cheaper, but on average) and I think it is about $12 to do USPS flat rate from here (Alaska) to the lower 48.

Ray H
Building a .404 Jeffery, thinking this might save my 'smith some time. I'm interested also.
 
I have a pile of 1917s and 1914s to build on. I’ve cut and welded a couple boxes but would be more than happy to buy some of these if you’re willing to sell a couple or 3.
 
I have a pile of 1917s and 1914s to build on. I’ve cut and welded a couple boxes but would be more than happy to buy some of these if you’re willing to sell a couple or 3.
Please send PM with your shipping information and I'll reply with payment options.

Ray H
 
PangandlinPat, you still interested in a few of these magazines?

Ray H
 
Yes, I still have some spare magnum boxes (it does require a good deal of milling and fitting work). I have shifted to working on a coffin bottom metal and refining the magazine followers right now. I have the prototype for the coffin bottom at 80 or 90 percent.

I like it, but it may be to deep. This prototype is on my 550 magnum. It let's me get 4 in the magazine. It is however, more like an honest one in the tube and three in the magazine (due to feeding, I feel like I may be able to get to one in the chamber and four in the magazine. If I can not, I am absolutely good with one in the chamber and three in the magazine) I am having several bottom metals 3D printed in aluminum and I am going to cast a prototype in aluminum as well. The 3D printing service is very expensive, and I can cast a copy at a 3rd of the 3D print rate. I just want to see value vs quality comparison.

Anyway, yes. I still have some magazines.

I have looked into shipping to Australia. Even on my end I have to fill out custom forms and make declaration.

Ray H

P.S. Please try not to be to judgemental, this is all my work. Every bit, wood, metal, soldering. I know it is not perfect, future Ray is already working on cleaning it up!!

Ray H
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Yes that is what I was wored about that looks awesome love the drop down magazine look what is that chambered in
 
I can probably have them cut out and un-bent. Maybe that would pass, it would then be a template not a part. Not sure, but it might work.
 

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