.308 Win in Africa - fan or foe?

Well to fair I do find that the “bastard offspring the 243” does a spectacular job on rodents. Prairie dog shooting, the 243 has spectacular results on the little hole digging buggers.
The down side to it is the barrel heats up real quick.
@Bandera - the barrel heats up because you’re shooting Prairie Dogs in 100 degree heat & direct Sun —- and a .243 on Prairie Dogs is like an RPG on deer = More then enough !
 
To some degree, I agree with you, but there is diminishing returns. Yes, if you shoot an eland with a .22 there is certainly more chance of losing the animal. But if you "try" to shoot it with a very large caliber that you can't control, your odds of losing the animal also increases.

There is a certain point of diminishing returns where larger caliber doesn't equal "more dead" and generally just leads to more flinching and poor shots.

Everyone likes to pretend they are hard core tough guys with zero flinch, and yet, when you see someone shooting a big bore and the rifle unexpectedly doesn't go off, what do you see? An awful lot of flinch.

So it is about finding that sweet spot where you can reduce recoil and thereby reduce flinch, and increase odds of quick ethical kill and retrieving the animal.
And yet many people use a .338 WM for plains game, or a .375 H&H for everything. I don't shoot my.7-08 any more accurately than my .300 WM. I do.not see the point of using the least powerful cartridge possible to make a clean kill. I knew a man that ambushed a water hole and used a .22 Hornet to kill an elk each year. He would place his shot in the eye. It worked for him, but I don't think anyone else would say that it was a good elk cartridge. Bell killed over 800 elephants with a 7x57. I am glad that it is no longer legal anywhere. As Ruark said, "Use Enough Gun."
 
And yet many people use a .338 WM for plains game, or a .375 H&H for everything. I don't shoot my.7-08 any more accurately than my .300 WM. I do.not see the point of using the least powerful cartridge possible to make a clean kill. I knew a man that ambushed a water hole and used a .22 Hornet to kill an elk each year. He would place his shot in the eye. It worked for him, but I don't think anyone else would say that it was a good elk cartridge. Bell killed over 800 elephants with a 7x57. I am glad that it is no longer legal anywhere. As Ruark said, "Use Enough Gun."

I don't even know how to respond to this because it seems a bit of a mess and you seem uninterested in reason and logic. But you directed the comment at me, so I guess I would just say, use whatever legal caliber makes you happy and enjoy your day.
 
Either type is perfect for any plains animal through Eland and Kudu (180 gr.) from personal experience. Others may have more.
 
I don't even know how to respond to this because it seems a bit of a mess and you seem uninterested in reason and logic. But you directed the comment at me, so I guess I would just say, use whatever legal caliber makes you happy and enjoy your day.
"...a bit of a mess." Only if that's how you choose to look at it. I'm "uninterested in reason and logic?" I'm n the one that believes in the fairy tale that all rifle cartridges are equal and it's just a matter of shooting well

BTW, I only directed my comment to you as it was a reply to your response to me.

So now we can both shoot what we.like and enjoy our day.
 
@Bandera - the barrel heats up because you’re shooting Prairie Dogs in 100 degree heat & direct Sun —- and a .243 on Prairie Dogs is like an RPG on deer = More then enough !
Good thing nobody wants to eat prairie dogs!
 
I have hunted with both 308 and 30-06 for years. Unless you are shooting 200+ grain bullets I honestly have seen no difference on game between the 2.
That's probably true. One of the reasons I moved from the .30-06 to the .300 WM was for the improved ability to handle the 200 grain bullets.
 
Did not mean to start a poop storm here. If I had, I would have posted on the "other website" where poop storms are the norm.

Thanks for the input. I will take a .308 on my next adventure!
 
Did not mean to start a poop storm here. If I had, I would have posted on the "other website" where poop storms are the norm.

Thanks for the input. I will take a .308 on my next adventure!
Great choice!
 
I don't even know how to respond to this because it seems a bit of a mess and you seem uninterested in reason and logic. But you directed the comment at me, so I guess I would just say, use whatever legal caliber makes you happy and enjoy your day.
@Sabre, I also have a friend that always claims “recoil doen’t bother me” and says he shoots his .300 wm great and has taken running whitetail & many deer with it — and he has. But, when he hunted Elk and had a great Bull at 200 yrds ‘standing broadside’ and off-a-solid-rest he MISSED (twice !). He was completely baffled, later checked his zero and was still ‘dead on’ at 200 yrds. He blamed “heat waves” and optical illusion?? When I mentioned “You likely FLINCHED and shot over bulls back” he was offended. I added “You really wanted that Bull, were more excited then any of the deer (mostly doe) you usually shoot — that extra excitement often adds to a flinch”. He still gets defensive when I bring up that subject years later.
 
I just... as in moments ago... received 500 pieces of once fired Federal brass in the mail from Northeast Target and Shooting Supply. I'll be reloading my .308 up for a three day training event at Thunder Ranch. Very much looking forward to this.

I used @KMG Hunting Safaris .308 on my first trip to RSA for several critters up to kudu. Marius had that rifle set up with GS Custom bullets (130 grain, if I remember correctly) and it worked great. He had very high praises for the cartridge and his loads.

Marius, what are you loading now?
@HuntingGold
Get hold of some CFE223 mate and some 168 gn gold dots and send @sgt_zim a message in powder weight.
He has developed a load that gives his 08 exceptional speed so much so that he had to rework his calculations for long range shooting. He also go great accuracy.
Bob
 
I took a .308 last October to Limpopo. Used 165 gr Nosler Partitions at 2700 fps with no problems. Took a blue wildebeest, blesbuck, warthog and zebra with no problem. Shots were not that long, less than 200 yards.

I didn't do any better than the previous trip with a .275 Rigby with 160 gr Accubonds in the Free State with longer shots.

The .308 will work fine if you do your part and put the bullet where it needs to go. Practice, practice and more practice and you will be fine.
 
Lots of variables to bringing down any game, African or not. Where you hit them is most important, but what you hit them with can save your life. In college my hunting buddies were two brothers from Botswana where they grew up on a game ranch and their dad was a ranger. They carried a 375 H&H for everything, small or large. They never worried about too much gun for the smaller game, but certainly wanted it for the bigger animals that they would have unexpected encounters with. The game they took was incredible. A combo of a 30 cal and 375 is very common, but keep it simple, once you get over there you may have limited access to replacement parts or ammo.
 
@HuntingGold
Get hold of some CFE223 mate and some 168 gn gold dots and send @sgt_zim a message in powder weight.
He has developed a load that gives his 08 exceptional speed so much so that he had to rework his calculations for long range shooting. He also go great accuracy.
Bob

@HuntingGold - unless you're rocking a 24" barrel, you probably won't get quite the speed I do, but I'm just a short and curly under 2900 with 168 gr Gold Dots.
 
Used the PHs .308 in Namibia this past May, worked well but I was not used to the bullet drop vs some of my rifles I use. I have never hunted with a .308 till now, so its my only experience.
 
.

Sorry it s in italian language.
43:18 video time ,u can see as a 223 remington kill a wildbeest at over 2 hundred yards !
Could a 308 have problem about it?
 
Perfect combo. I also used 180 gr. Norma Bondstrikes.
 
We use either Norma Oryx 180 grain or Federal 175 grain Terminal Accent bullets in our 308s. Both highly effective. I would also have no issues with a 165 grain class mono.

Have fun.
 
Aaah, the old (“use enough gun”) quote.
Written by a guy who was primarily a wing shooter who had either zero or next to zero big game hunting hunting experience at the time of his first safari, and didn’t know one bullet from next.
Choose a tough bullet so you don’t wish you had one when you need one. Stalk close enough to place your shots correctly. Live happily ever after with your .308.
 

Forum statistics

Threads
69,261
Messages
1,543,627
Members
160,661
Latest member
MiloSoule
 

 

 

Latest posts

Latest profile posts

curt672 wrote on WoodencrossIII's profile.
just making sure my message went threw
30-06Ken wrote on ftothfadd's profile.
I'll take the Vortex scope cover you have listed in the Pay it Forward thread.

Ken [redacted]
Scott CWO wrote on mark-hunter's profile.
Hi Mark. My email is [redacted]
Selling real estate in dchum’s head
getting some work done in-between hunts!

 
Top