SOUTH AFRICA: Zingela-Limpopo Safaris - How Poor Management Ruined An Otherwise Promising Safari

I was in camp that week. We definitely ate what we shot. As I stated earlier in this thread, the stuffed Impala backstrap was absolutely delicious and the pan-fried impala steaks were cooked to perfection. I didn't keep a journal of meals, but I think I remember Gemsbok sometime on the menu. Everything was exquisitely prepared and served.

My additional $0.02...

Also... the family trust that owns Zingela is Dutch. One of the members married a Chinese woman; hence the confusion of ownership. ...for those who care.

I will personally return to Zingela and plan to bring my friends.

Ed Z
 
I was in camp that week. We definitely ate what we shot. As I stated earlier in this thread, the stuffed Impala backstrap was absolutely delicious and the pan-fried impala steaks were cooked to perfection. I didn't keep a journal of meals, but I think I remember Gemsbok sometime on the menu. Everything was exquisitely prepared and served.

My additional $0.02...

Also... the family trust that owns Zingela is Dutch. One of the members married a Chinese woman; hence the confusion of ownership. ...for those who care.

I will personally return to Zingela and plan to bring my friends.

Ed Z
I'm sorry Ed Z. I do not want to get into a point by point argument with you but if you're going to keep throwing in your "$0.02" on my review, you need to at least get your facts straight.

We specifically asked Zingela why we couldn't eat the cow Gemsbok and the cow buffalo that my friends harvested during our stay (as we had done with other outfitters) and we were told that this would not be possible as Zingela required meat to hang for at a minimum of 5 days. We never ate any of the game that "we" shot that week. That is a fact. It's not my opinion.

And the owners of Zingela are not "Dutch". The late husband was a Danish national (there is a difference) and he's out of the picture because he's deceased. The wealthy family is from an international shipping empire and is based in Hong Kong--and that is a part of China. The group that manages these international properties for them is called the Gibson Group--which is also based in Hong Kong. The Managing Director of Zingela (and "D"'s boss) is based in Hong Kong and he is not "Dutch" he is a Chinese national. I have his name but I see no need to post it here.

I noticed a brand new AH "member" account was created specifically to refute my Zingela review. Funny how this response, by a member which didn't exist a few days ago, never addressed Chinese ownership or sending PH's in the field with faulty ammo on a buffalo hunt.

People can read my review and take from it what they want--or they can ignore it. Zingela did not deliver for my group for all the reasons that I stated and we will never go back.
 
This was hard to read. Aside from the abysmal hunting experience, it must be heavy on your heart to know you unwittingly break your own code of ethics. I greatly admire your disdain for Communism. Sadly, even people who I believe do hate Communism are willing to do business with them to keep costs low. I will gladly pay premium to keep businesses and my money in the U.S.A.

I hope this was an anomaly for you and that your future hunts measure up to your high standards. Best of health and happiness to you sir.
 
The response from Zingela on this thread was 80-90% meaningless PR droning. It's the same kind of useless copy paste garbage you see under thousands of bad reviews where the company feels like they need to respond, but doesn't actually want to respond or do anything further about the issue.
 
What can I say about everything?
I visited about 70 countries of the world, in the line of duty, or in private trips.

There are thousands of characters I have met on those trips.
Of all the thousands I have met, there are exactly two persons, I cannot stand. I got allergy attack on them.
So, if "D", is such a character which will make me an allergic reaction, I understand.

If not:
The world is actually a chaos, and I never new with certainty of all details of my journey, so my mindset is flexible, and I dont bother with details.
Anything can happen.
On safari trips (I did 5 of them till now), I go with focus and utmost expectation that PH will put me in shooting position. I also want airport pick up and drop off. And some type of "roof" over the head in camp, or a tent.
The basics
(the rest is adapt, improvise, overcome philosophy which worked well for me for years)
So, for the rest I will be more-or-less flexible.

Clients in camp.
on my safaris, I was:
- on a one man trip, I found my self in a camp with Australian, and Germans. I enjoyed
- on a two man trip, with a friend and with his and my son, we were alone in the camp. I enjoyed.
- on a group trip, a camp was all for us (but I did not know the group before, so it was like first case)
- and I have been alone client in camp, during ele hunt.
- And I have been with a friend alone in a double buffalo hunt in caprivi. I enjoyed

There are camps, and there are camps.
In high volume operations in South Africa or Namibia, my own view is that it will be difficult to expect no other clients in the camp.
If that is the target, hmmm... how to arrange?
Personally I would be looking for an outfitter with several camps on concession, I would not mind sleeping in modest tent if need be, in the worst camp outfitter has.

If another client happens to be in the camp despite my arrangement with outfitter, most likely i would swallow the bitter pill, make the best out of it, make friends with a colleague, and focus on the hunt. (and reduce on tipping, heavily!!!)

Because, my vision of the world is, as I have noted above, the world is chaos, and the world does not spin on my own axis. The world spins around the client in perfection only in 5 star hotel.
Not in african hunting camp.

Overall, I enjoyed every trip I had to Africa, and all different situations I found myself in.
Most probably, no trip had been perfect, as I imagined before the trip.
But every safari I had, it remained perfect in my memory, based on my flexibility and adaptability

PH on the fire pit.
I always felt sorry, when PH left pitfire early, to rest for next day.
In most of the cases, PH would have a short drink in the evening with us, after the dinner over a fire pit, and would disappear to take rest.

But, from all my interactions with Phs, during day hunts, midday meals, road transfers and over firepits, I learned a lot, and each time came home richer in experience and in knowledge of Africa.

So, personally I dont mind having PH with us over evening fire. (for me he is most welcome)
But I also understand, that different people, have different preferences, and that is also fine.

Finally, to get to outfitters comment.
Polished, and PR maybe?
But the message is also taken on his side.
And will be taken in future calculus of operation.

Would I hunt with Zingela outfit?
I have no real reason not to.
But, there is "polished" PR as well.

This only depends, of offers and animals available in the future.

There is no price list on ZIngela web site, and for me personally this is turn off.
This puts me in position to ask for offers, and if they are too high and not for me, it is like tire kicking,
I hate tire kicking.
There is a clickbait "book a hunt".
What to book, when there is no prices?
So, I need to spend mine and outfitters time asking for details. Not for me.

Good thing about ZIngela, iz 27.000 Hectars of range. If there are no internal fences, this is very attractive for south african safari.
 
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Good outfitters know they're businesses are half hunting, half hospitality. The ones that don't, won't last long in the Africa hunting competitive environment. Not a hunting venue and not in South Africa, I had a spaghetti dinner with ketchup for sauce and white bread. The boloney sandwiches didn't agree with me either. I can adapt but not that much and why when I'm paying $$$. YMMV.
 
What can I say about everything?
I visited about 70 countries of the world, in the line of duty, or in private trips.

There are thousands of characters I have met on those trips.
Of all the thousands I have met, there are exactly two persons, I cannot stand. I got allergy attack on them.
So, if "D", is such a character which will make me an allergic reaction, I understand.

If not:
The world is actually a chaos, and I never new with certainty of all details of my journey, so my mindset is flexible, and I dont bother with details.
Anything can happen.
On safari trips (I did 5 of them till now), I go with focus and utmost expectation that PH will put me in shooting position. I also want airport pick up and drop off. And some type of "roof" over the head in camp, or a tent.
The basics
(the rest is adapt, improvise, overcome philosophy which worked well for me for years)
So, for the rest I will be more-or-less flexible.

Clients in camp.
on my safaris, I was:
- on a one man trip, I found my self in a camp with Australian, and Germans. I enjoyed
- on a two man trip, with a friend and with his and my son, we were alone in the camp. I enjoyed.
- on a group trip, a camp was all for us (but I did not know the group before, so it was like first case)
- and I have been alone client in camp, during ele hunt.
- And I have been with a friend alone in a double buffalo hunt in caprivi. I enjoyed

There are camps, and there are camps.
In high volume operations in South Africa or Namibia, my own view is that it will be difficult to expect no other clients in the camp.
If that is the target, hmmm... how to arrange?
Personally I would be looking for an outfitter with several camps on concession, I would not mind sleeping in modest tent if need be, in the worst camp outfitter has.

If another client happens to be in the camp despite my arrangement with outfitter, most likely i would swallow the bitter pill, make the best out of it, make friends with a colleague, and focus on the hunt. (and reduce on tipping, heavily!!!)

Because, my vision of the world is, as I have noted above, the world is chaos, and the world does not spin on my own axis. The world spins around the client in perfection only in 5 star hotel.
Not in african hunting camp.

Overall, I enjoyed every trip I had to Africa, and all different situations I found myself in.
Most probably, no trip had been perfect, as I imagined before the trip.
But every safari I had, it remained perfect in my memory, based on my flexibility and adaptability

PH on the fire pit.
I always felt sorry, when PH left pitfire early, to rest for next day.
In most of the cases, PH would have a short drink in the evening with us, after the dinner over a fire pit, and would disappear to take rest.

But, from all my interactions with Phs, during day hunts, midday meals, road transfers and over firepits, I learned a lot, and each time came home richer in experience and in knowledge of Africa.

So, personally I dont mind having PH with us over evening fire. (for me he is most welcome)
But I also understand, that different people, have different preferences, and that is also fine.

Finally, to get to outfitters comment.
Polished, and PR maybe?
But the message is also taken on his side.
And will be taken in future calculus of operation.

Would I hunt with Zingela outfit?
I have no real reason not to.
But, there is "polished" PR as well.

This only depends, of offers and animals available in the future.

There is no price list on ZIngela web site, and for me personally this is turn off.
This puts me in position to ask for offers, and if they are too high and not for me, it is like tire kicking,
I hate tire kicking.
There is a clickbait "book a hunt".
What to book, when there is no prices?
So, I need to spend mine and outfitters time asking for details. Not for me.

Good thing about ZIngela, iz 27.000 Hectars of range. If there are no internal fences, this is very attractive for south african safari.
Very well written, congratulations.
In the hunting world, if you're not adaptable, you're better off staying at home.
I always expect the expected, but I look forward to the unexpected.
And today, those memories are far better than they would have been if I had insisted on having things my own way.
 
Good outfitters know they're businesses are half hunting, half hospitality. The ones that don't, won't last long in the Africa hunting competitive environment. Not a hunting venue and not in South Africa, I had a spaghetti dinner with ketchup for sauce and white bread. The boloney sandwiches didn't agree with me either. I can adapt but not that much and why when I'm paying $$$. YMMV.

One time I was on a guided hunt out west where meals and lodging were supposed to be included. The night I got my animal the outfitter and guides went to a local party and ditched all the hunters. Didn't really say anything to us. We found out later in the day. The nearby town, everything was shut down except a gas station. So we got to eat unsavory gas station food. It was a pretty expensive hunt, so it was frustrating. Also, it's a weird thing to do on a night when the hunters, guides, and outfitter should be celebrating success together.
 
If management requires meat to hang for five days, they are doing you a favor. I have eaten fresh lechwe back straps (mine) that were very bad. My PH did the BBQ and apologized (I did not complain). I explained to him no apology necessary. I've been in the hunting game long enough to know eating fresh meat is dicey. We usually have fresh kudu tenderloin at some point in the safaris and it's usually okay. Bottom line is I go to Africa to hunt not eat. I have told the manager and PH that every time. I'm fine with half a ham & cheese sandwich for lunch (just hold the mayo!). I don't go to Africa to put on a style show or socialize (but I'm not antisocial either ... well ... maybe a little :D ). My PH has to get up very early to get everything lined out for the hunt, especially if a lot of travel is involved. He should hit the sack as soon as he can. I don't drink much if at all (usually the latter) so no need for anyone to chase my drinks for me. I know where the fridge is with ginger ale and beer. I leave instructions that sheets are not to be changed until after I leave. Water is sometimes at a premium there, I know that. Don't need to waste it on sheets that aren't dirty. My showers are also very quick for same reason. I even make the bed before leaving in the morning. Why not? It's what I do at home. Don't want the help thinking I was born in a barn. But boy, if that housecleaning gal doesn't restock the candy dish in my room, I'll give her hell. :D They know I'm a junkie for SA candy.

My safari outfitter makes me feel at home. Why should I not act like I'm at home?
 
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What I do not follow is if you had the camp exclusively for yourself and two buddies (in writing) why did you not put your foot down from the start on arrival rather than wait until after the event & then criticise on-line ?

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I should also add that I know my PH is a family man with wife and kids. I would prefer that he call them as soon as he can at the end of the day. For many years I worked long distances from my family that remained here while I was a park ranger in the US. Those calls at the end of the day are a lifeline for a family's mental (and marital) health. Bullshitting around a campfire is not nearly as important. My guy does not take calls during the day unless it's for safari business. I'll happily give him a break for personal stuff when we are done for the day. In fact, I'll insist on it. In contrast I had one PH who was also running a guide school on the side and I found it VERY annoying when he was taking calls for that business while we were hunting. Or chatting with a prospective student at the gas station for a half hour when we were supposed to be on our way to hunt kudu. I waited till we were on the road and gently but firmly told him that was not appropriate and it better not happen again. That night at campfire he was back on his phone constantly texting. Fine ... except when the lodge owner's wife had to keep getting up for wood to feed the fire.
 
I have two simple rules that guide not only my safaris but much of my life. First, I do not do business with people who are willing to cut corners when it comes to the safety, comfort, and well-being of myself, my family, and my friends. Second, I do not knowingly spend my hard-earned money with businesses that have ties to Communist China.

Unfortunately, by booking a hunt with Zingela-Limpopo Safaris, I ended up violating both of these principles.

Before describing what happened, I want to recognize the camp staff. The cooks, cleaners, trackers, skinners, the interns, and the Professional Hunters were hardworking, friendly people who consistently did their best throughout our stay. They were not the problem. My concerns center on the local General Manager (a man I will call "D"), whose attitude toward paying guests was, in my experience, the opposite of what one would expect from a professional safari operation.

When I arrived at O.R. Tambo International Airport after my overnight flight from Frankfurt, I received a text from D that simply read, "I am at Yolo Coffee." After searching for the coffee shop, I found an unshaven, unkempt middle-aged man leaning against a wall with his hands in his pockets. There was no Zingela welcome sign, no attempt to find me, and no greeting. I introduced myself, but instead of the usual pleasantries he immediately wanted to get on the road. An absent welcome sign may seem a trivial detail, but it signals a lot to visiting clients--especially after many hours of international travel. And in this case it was an omen for our week at Zingela.

About an hour into the five-and-a-half-hour drive to camp in the cramped pick-up truck, I asked if we could stop for food and a restroom break after the overnight flight. D resisted, saying he wanted to get back to camp as quickly as possible. I wasn't sure what the rush was as this was our trip not his. But only after I asked again—and my friends chimed in—did D reluctantly agreed to stop at a Wimpy restaurant. After all of us--to include D--finished our modest meals, the bill arrived. D looked at the three of us and asked who was paying. Considering we had already paid substantial daily rates and buffalo packages, I found this surprising. D eventually paid with what appeared to be a company credit card, but his reluctance created an awkward atmosphere that further set the tone for the week and reinforced my already negative first impression of him from our airport "greeting".

This hunt had been over a year in the planning. Two close friends traveled from the United States to celebrate my birthday and I flew in from Germany. It was the first time in years the three of us had been together and for one friend it was his very first trip to Africa. It was important to me as the organizer that the trip went well for all concerned. So during the planning process with Zingela management I specifically confirmed, in writing, that the three of us would have exclusive use of their tented camp. Zingela assured me it was their "policy" never to mix hunting groups.

Imagine my surprise when we arrived and found another American hunter and his own South African PH already in camp. When I later reminded management of their written assurance about not ever mixing groups, their response was simply, "Sorry, we thought you wouldn't mind."

It soon became clear that D was not merely our driver—he was Zingela's General Manager. I also learned that the 40,000+-acre property is owned by a wealthy, Hong Kong-based family and managed through a trust and Board of Directors outside of South Africa. D was their front man on the ground and he had replaced the previous General Manager who apparently departed under hasty circumstances.

The Hong Kong owners reportedly have no interest in hunting. However, they seem to want the profits from hunting and the operation appeared to be managed with that overriding objective: maximizing revenue. Looking back, adding another hunting party, despite promising us exclusive use of camp, seemed entirely consistent with that approach. It was clear that as long as D ensures the $$$ to his bosses in China, he keeps his fancy title and continues to live in the General Manager's house on the property.

Other aspects of the operation reinforced this impression. Meals consisted almost entirely of frozen impala meat in different forms, sausages, and grilled chicken breasts with lots and lots of fillers for sides; pasta, potatoes, and bread (lots of bread). Despite members of our group harvesting game during the week, none of these animals were ever served to us. Even the "pizza" we were served had no resemblance to actual pizza or to the photos of pizza night that we had been shown as representative of the camp cuisine. The culinary realty was very different than what was advertised and the quality of food noticeably declined as the week progressed. We were served chicken livers and fried impala (again) as our final dinner. This wasn't necessarily the fault of the camp Chef, but of D who gave the provisions to the Chef and who set the weekly menu. Zingela's camp vehicles were dirty, poorly maintained, and lacked even basic conveniences such as rifle racks. One truck even had a window that no longer functioned. However D's personal company vehicle (not to be confused with the vehicle he used for the airport transfers) was equipped with all the bells and whistles.

During one of my friend's Cape buffalo hunts, the PH backing him up experienced a malfunction when a cartridge came apart after jamming in the action of his rifle. We were later told the ammunition consisted of handloads purchased through a friend rather than factory ammunition. Factory ammunition was never issued. Whether or not handloads are appropriate for dangerous game is a decision every hunter must make. Personally, I believe factory ammunition should be standard equipment for any Cape buffalo hunt--especially when being charged $220 a box. The rental rifles were no better; one being an old Brno .375 equipped with a cheap Tasco scope and the other a .375 of unknown make with an equally unknown make optic.

D's attitude toward guests also left much to be desired. Most questions were answered with mumbled responses before D returned his attention to his smartphone. On one occasion, D actually confided to one of my friends a pointed criticism of the other American client's shooting ability (and apparent poor judgement) after that hunter had wounded a buffalo with his .577 double. As my friend remarked to us afterward, if D was willing to criticize another client behind his back, what was he saying about us?

Another oddity involved evenings around the campfire. Most would agree that this is one of the highlights of the safari experience. After the first couple of awkward evenings we eventually learned that D required the PHs to remain with guests for as long as guests stayed at the fire pit. While some hunters may appreciate that arrangement, our group had traveled halfway around the world largely to spend time together after years apart. Once we understood this very odd policy, we simply retired to our tents each evening so we could catch up and have some drinks amongst ourselves. I'm past the age that I need a social chaperone and I certainly do not want a PH to be required to socialize with me.

Taken individually, many of these issues might have been overlooked. Viewed collectively, however, they painted a consistent picture of an operation that, in my opinion, prioritized revenue over hospitality, communication, and, at least once, safety.

I recognize that others have had positive experiences at Zingela, to include a German friend who enthusiastically recommended Zingela to me. I can only report what occurred during our hunt with them. D is not suited for the position he finds himself in as the General Manager and definitely should not be in a customer facing role of any kind. As the General Manager he set the tone from the moment we arrived and it was not a pleasant nor welcoming one. For the duration of our visit the staff, to include the PH's, deferred to D on every decision no matter how trivial and as a result no one ever seemed at ease (or happy) and this had a direct impact on us as the guests.

This is not what I expected from a professional safari outfitter, and it is not an experience I can recommend to others. Prospective clients should also understand the ownership structure before deciding where to spend their money. Zingela is owned by interests based in Hong Kong, and a portion of the revenue generated by the operation definitely does NOT remain in South Africa but instead ultimately flows to the actual owners in China. Knowing this before hand would have changed my decision to come here. I would also caution anyone to double check and even triple confirm--in writing--anything that is agreed to with Zingela-Limpopo Safaris management before sending them your deposit.

I was in camp that week. We definitely ate what we shot. As I stated earlier in this thread, the stuffed Impala backstrap was absolutely delicious and the pan-fried impala steaks were cooked to perfection. I didn't keep a journal of meals, but I think I remember Gemsbok sometime on the menu. Everything was exquisitely prepared and served.

My additional $0.02...

Also... the family trust that owns Zingela is Dutch. One of the members married a Chinese woman; hence the confusion of ownership. ...for those who care.

I will personally return to Zingela and plan to bring my friends.

Ed Z
I was in the camp as well and here are my thoughts

Food:
I found the food disappointing overall. There were one or two meals that were good, but nothing I would describe as exceptional. This was my third African hunting trip (two in South Africa and one in Namibia), and from a culinary perspective it ranked a distant third. Ironically, the best meal of the week was a simple bush braai prepared by our PHs on the final full day: grilled eland sausage over an open fire. It was authentic, well executed, and memorable. Unfortunately, most of the meals served in camp fell well short of that standard. We were served impala (Venison) most meals. In previous hunts there was a diversity of meals including zebra, wildebeast, kudu, etc. Not so much here unless you count the chicken livers on the final night.

Ammunition: I expected to pay a premium for camp ammunition since I chose not to bring my own, but I did not expect to be supplied with reloads at approximately $220 per box. More concerning was that my PH—who was otherwise outstanding—was also using substandard reloads during a dangerous game hunt. At one point, a cartridge literally came apart in the chamber. That is a serious safety issue that could have had severe consequences for both of us.

Camp Management: Not having the Camp GM meet guests in the arrivals hall wasn't a major issue on its own, but it was a noticeable departure from my previous safari experiences. Throughout the week, I found his engagement with guests to be minimal. He may simply have a more reserved personality, but hospitality and guest interaction are fundamental parts of a camp manager's role, and I felt that aspect was lacking.

Vehicles: The hunting vehicles were also well below what I've experienced on previous safaris. They were heavily worn, with issues such as defective windows and persistent squeaks and rattles that detracted from the experience. More importantly, they lacked basic functional features for a hunting vehicle, including proper shooting pads or rests in the rear. While the vehicles ultimately got us where we needed to go, they did not reflect the quality of experience I would expect from a premium dangerous game outfitter.

Response from the Outfitter: I also found it notable that the outfitter's response did not address neither the Chinese ownership concerns that had been raised nor the ammunition issue. Of the two, the ammunition concern is particularly surprising, as it relates directly to hunter safety and, in my opinion, warranted a direct response.

Regarding the issue of multiple hunting parties in camp, it may not be an official policy, but it was communicated to the original poster as though it were. If that information was inaccurate, it was at best misleading. When the original poster raised the concern with camp administration, it was never addressed by "D" during the stay. This was a missed opportunity. A simple acknowledgment, clarification, or even an apology would likely have resolved the matter and demonstrated a commitment to the guest experience. Instead, the concern appears to have gone unanswered, leaving an unnecessary negative impression.
 
I was in the camp as well and here are my thoughts

Food:
I found the food disappointing overall. There were one or two meals that were good, but nothing I would describe as exceptional. This was my third African hunting trip (two in South Africa and one in Namibia), and from a culinary perspective it ranked a distant third. Ironically, the best meal of the week was a simple bush braai prepared by our PHs on the final full day: grilled eland sausage over an open fire. It was authentic, well executed, and memorable. Unfortunately, most of the meals served in camp fell well short of that standard. We were served impala (Venison) most meals. In previous hunts there was a diversity of meals including zebra, wildebeast, kudu, etc. Not so much here unless you count the chicken livers on the final night.

Ammunition: I expected to pay a premium for camp ammunition since I chose not to bring my own, but I did not expect to be supplied with reloads at approximately $220 per box. More concerning was that my PH—who was otherwise outstanding—was also using substandard reloads during a dangerous game hunt. At one point, a cartridge literally came apart in the chamber. That is a serious safety issue that could have had severe consequences for both of us.

Camp Management: Not having the Camp GM meet guests in the arrivals hall wasn't a major issue on its own, but it was a noticeable departure from my previous safari experiences. Throughout the week, I found his engagement with guests to be minimal. He may simply have a more reserved personality, but hospitality and guest interaction are fundamental parts of a camp manager's role, and I felt that aspect was lacking.

Vehicles: The hunting vehicles were also well below what I've experienced on previous safaris. They were heavily worn, with issues such as defective windows and persistent squeaks and rattles that detracted from the experience. More importantly, they lacked basic functional features for a hunting vehicle, including proper shooting pads or rests in the rear. While the vehicles ultimately got us where we needed to go, they did not reflect the quality of experience I would expect from a premium dangerous game outfitter.

Response from the Outfitter: I also found it notable that the outfitter's response did not address neither the Chinese ownership concerns that had been raised nor the ammunition issue. Of the two, the ammunition concern is particularly surprising, as it relates directly to hunter safety and, in my opinion, warranted a direct response.

Regarding the issue of multiple hunting parties in camp, it may not be an official policy, but it was communicated to the original poster as though it were. If that information was inaccurate, it was at best misleading. When the original poster raised the concern with camp administration, it was never addressed by "D" during the stay. This was a missed opportunity. A simple acknowledgment, clarification, or even an apology would likely have resolved the matter and demonstrated a commitment to the guest experience. Instead, the concern appears to have gone unanswered, leaving an unnecessary negative impression.
Another review like this on Google is needed for them to step up their game and stay in business.
 
I was in the camp as well and here are my thoughts

Food:
I found the food disappointing overall. There were one or two meals that were good, but nothing I would describe as exceptional. This was my third African hunting trip (two in South Africa and one in Namibia), and from a culinary perspective it ranked a distant third. Ironically, the best meal of the week was a simple bush braai prepared by our PHs on the final full day: grilled eland sausage over an open fire. It was authentic, well executed, and memorable. Unfortunately, most of the meals served in camp fell well short of that standard. We were served impala (Venison) most meals. In previous hunts there was a diversity of meals including zebra, wildebeast, kudu, etc. Not so much here unless you count the chicken livers on the final night.

Ammunition: I expected to pay a premium for camp ammunition since I chose not to bring my own, but I did not expect to be supplied with reloads at approximately $220 per box. More concerning was that my PH—who was otherwise outstanding—was also using substandard reloads during a dangerous game hunt. At one point, a cartridge literally came apart in the chamber. That is a serious safety issue that could have had severe consequences for both of us.

Camp Management: Not having the Camp GM meet guests in the arrivals hall wasn't a major issue on its own, but it was a noticeable departure from my previous safari experiences. Throughout the week, I found his engagement with guests to be minimal. He may simply have a more reserved personality, but hospitality and guest interaction are fundamental parts of a camp manager's role, and I felt that aspect was lacking.

Vehicles: The hunting vehicles were also well below what I've experienced on previous safaris. They were heavily worn, with issues such as defective windows and persistent squeaks and rattles that detracted from the experience. More importantly, they lacked basic functional features for a hunting vehicle, including proper shooting pads or rests in the rear. While the vehicles ultimately got us where we needed to go, they did not reflect the quality of experience I would expect from a premium dangerous game outfitter.

Response from the Outfitter: I also found it notable that the outfitter's response did not address neither the Chinese ownership concerns that had been raised nor the ammunition issue. Of the two, the ammunition concern is particularly surprising, as it relates directly to hunter safety and, in my opinion, warranted a direct response.

Regarding the issue of multiple hunting parties in camp, it may not be an official policy, but it was communicated to the original poster as though it were. If that information was inaccurate, it was at best misleading. When the original poster raised the concern with camp administration, it was never addressed by "D" during the stay. This was a missed opportunity. A simple acknowledgment, clarification, or even an apology would likely have resolved the matter and demonstrated a commitment to the guest experience. Instead, the concern appears to have gone unanswered, leaving an unnecessary negative impression.
This is very good overview bringing first hand new light to the outfitter, from a new forum member.
Welcome to the forum!
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Some questions.
The hunt: did you collect all the trophies as per plan?
Did overall experience reflect on tipping, later?

Same question to @Tiger2001
 
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What I do not follow is if you had the camp exclusively for yourself and two buddies (in writing) why did you not put your foot down from the start on arrival rather than wait until after the event & then criticise on-line ?

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Please read my review again. I did say something right away as did my my friends. I reminded Zingela that we had an email exchange where I asked if we would have the camp to ourselves and I was assured that we would. All I got from them was a sorry about that, we thought you wouldn't mind one more hunter in camp response. What else was I supposed to do to "put my foot down"? Tell them to take us all back to the airport and cancel the hunt? Throw the other party out of camp? If I book a hunt with the understanding (once again in writing) that Zingela will not mix hunting parties, what can I do when I arrive and learn that they broke their word? All I can do is warn others of what happened and that is what I am doing here on this forum. So no I am not just criticizing online after the event.

And I was very careful about how I wrote my original review to ensure non-attribution to others. But frankly I do not care anymore. I know from members of the staff that the other party (Ed Z and his PH) were permitted to join us as Ed Z's PH and "D" (who is Dawie by the way. Pronounced DAW-VEE) go back a long way (the PH's photo hangs prominently in the dining room of Zingela). This PH brings a lot of clients to Zingela so when he called Dawie and asked to be squeezed in with his client Ed Z, Dawie didn't hesitate to say yes. Zingela's promises to my group be damned.

The decent and professional thing to do would have been for Dawie to tell the PH that a party had already been booked for the week and promised exclusive use of the camp. OR he could have simply contacted us, explained the situation, and ASKED if it would be okay to have another two people in camp with us. How hard is that? And if you're the manager of a 27,000 hectare operation like Zingela dependent on foreign clients who pay thousands of dollars and travel thousands of miles to be there, maybe you need to up your game, no?
 
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This is very good overview bringing first hand new light to the outfitter, from a new forum member.
Welcome to the forum!
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Some questions.
The hunt: did you collect all the trophies as per plan?
Did overall experience reflect on tipping, later?

Same question to @Tiger2001
As stated in the previous comments, the PH's and staff (to include "D" Dawie) were not forgotten when it came to the gratuities. My first timer friend got some of the plains game that he wanted. My other friend got one of two buffalo cows. He decided that one was enough after the ammo incident and asked to switch to plains game. I personally did not fulfill my goals as I wanted to leave with Zingela owing me a refund. I had paid all costs up front so they ended up owing me money when I left.
 
As stated in the previous comments, the PH's and staff (to include "D" Dawie) were not forgotten when it came to the gratuities. My first timer friend got some of the plains game that he wanted. My other friend got one of two buffalo cows. He decided that one was enough after the ammo incident and asked to switch to plains game. I personally did not fulfill my goals as I wanted to leave with Zingela owing me a refund. I had paid all costs up front so they ended up owing me money when I left.
Uff, this is really bad.
More bad than my initial impression!
Thanks for clarification!
 
Please read my review again. I did say something right away as did my my friends. I reminded Zingela that we had an email exchange where I asked if we would have the camp to ourselves and I was assured that we would. All I got from them was a sorry about that, we thought you wouldn't mind one more hunter in camp response. What else was I supposed to do to "put my foot down"? Tell them to take us all back to the airport and cancel the hunt? Throw the other party out of camp? If I book a hunt with the understanding (once again in writing) that Zingela will not mix hunting parties, what can I do when I arrive and learn that they broke their word? All I can do is warn others of what happened and that is what I am doing here on this forum. So no I am not just criticizing online after the event.
Exactly.
I never had bad safari experience, but I had bad taxidermy experience.

My instructions in writing were: I want waterback shoulder mount, turned and facing to the right.
He made it straight looking, and standing frozen like wooden plank!
What could I do?
I took waterbuck home, found the place for it.
And I damn well made sure, everybody of my hunting buddies knows the details, and never got to same taxidermist. Nothing else I could do.
(and I am still doing it when taxidermy comes in question. I have long memory)
 
I should also add that I know my PH is a family man with wife and kids. I would prefer that he call them as soon as he can at the end of the day. For many years I worked long distances from my family that remained here while I was a park ranger in the US. Those calls at the end of the day are a lifeline for a family's mental (and marital) health. Bullshitting around a campfire is not nearly as important. My guy does not take calls during the day unless it's for safari business. I'll happily give him a break for personal stuff when we are done for the day. In fact, I'll insist on it. In contrast I had one PH who was also running a guide school on the side and I found it VERY annoying when he was taking calls for that business while we were hunting. Or chatting with a prospective student at the gas station for a half hour when we were supposed to be on our way to hunt kudu. I waited till we were on the road and gently but firmly told him that was not appropriate and it better not happen again. That night at campfire he was back on his phone constantly texting. Fine ... except when the lodge owner's wife had to keep getting up for wood to feed the fire.
"That night at campfire he was back on his phone constantly texting. Fine ... except when the lodge owner's wife had to keep getting up for wood to feed the fire."

And what do you do in this case? You don't return to give them your business and you warn your friends and members of this forum of your personal experience so all know what could happen if they book with that outfitter.
 

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You’re the 2nd person on this thread from Arkansas. I live in Benton.

Do you hunt out of state much?
having a great season so far
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