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Federal Plus Peak 6.5 Creedmoor Ammunition Just Killed the 6.5 PRC

Federal's new Plus Peak is a high-pressure, high-velocity ammunition that's poised to change rifle cartridge design as we know it.
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Just read this article and watched a short clip about Federal's new "Plus Peak" ammunition coming out for the 6.5 Creedmore. For those who want the summary version:

Federal is taking their technology that created the 7mm Backcountry, and using it now for an existing cartridge. No new rifle or setup, just buy the new ammo and by it running higher pressures (safely), you gain 250-300 fps for same bullet, same setup. The Peak Alloy steel will he reloadable with new dies (being designed by appropriate companies) that are built to handle the steel, but probably not with your current setup. Unlike the 7BC, these are said to be able to use powders we may all have or can get, rather than proprietary blends, to achieve similar speeds, which is a change from the 7BC, too.
There is an expectation for this Plus Peak ammo line to expand to more existing cartridges over time. It's starting in the 6.5 Creedmore for now.

Consider me interested in the idea. It's exactly the fix for what I said Federal got wrong with the 7mm Backcountry. I did not want to go buy a new gun/cartridge to try this new ammunition. I will absolutely buy a box of new ammo for an existing gun to see if it can improve performance in something I already own (or want to own).

First shipments expected in August for thr 130 grain Terminal Ascent bullet, and 155 grain Tipped Fusion with "more to follow quickly." I do not have a hunting rifle in 6.5 creed, but do have a varmint/target rifle in one, so if prices are reasonable, I'll pick up a box or two to test. Occasionally I'll lug this heavy rig out to a blind for a deer/hog/coyote sit, but I don't want to carry it on a spot and stalk adventure.
 
I have been waiting for someone to mention this new development in 6.5cm
I hope the 155gr fusion shows good results in my savage, I really wasn’t interested in a 6.5prc with 2 tack driving.270win in the safe already.and like the idea of higher S.D @ higher velocity, I heard.308win might be next?
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It was only a matter of time. It makes sense, modern metallurgy also means that actions now can probably handle pressures much higher than the actions they used to approve SAAMI specs for a lot of the older cartridges. (30-06 and 270 immediately come to mind) I would imagine the titanium actions we're seeing now could handle significantly higher pressures.

The only thing I'm doubting is that they can get these extra velocities with commonly available powders. A lot of the mono metal, High B.C. bullets take up a lot of room in the case and have made "crush loads" or loads close to full capacity common. I dont know if the steel cases have significantly thinner walls than brass cases, even if they do, its hard to imagine it will be more than a half grain or so.

I'll let others experiment with these first, but I am interested in trying these when they become available in more common calibers.
 
This Plus Peak technology from Federal has the potential to be revolutionary!?!? Obviously with this load technology they taking aim at Hornady with their PRC cartridges.

I wonder what cartridge(s) they’re going to use this technology next with? If they do a 30-06, that could give close to or even equal a 300 magnum? What about if they use this technology to develop 7mm Rem Mag or 300 Win Mag?
 
The article referenced .308 and .223 among possible future cartridges they bring this technology to. I would be interested to see the 308 for sure. I would really love it in a .25-06, although that's unlikely at least for a while . Probably see the full gambit of Creedmore line, and most popular cartridges like 243/270/308/30.06/maybe even 338.
 
RETD16 said:
I wonder what cartridge(s) they’re going to use this technology next with?
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Given that it has been said from the start that this was for military implications, I think those cartridges will likely come first.
6.5 Creedmoor was announced as the new DMR winner.
6 ARC has been announced for some teams use.
Then the traditional 5.56 and .308

I think the 7bc was just a test platform to hone accuracy in a unique chambering so no one could blow up grandpas 30-06 and yield bad press.
 
As this nu metal tech is gradually applied to all cartridges in the manufacturing lineup, each will maintain its current position relative to the others. The 6.5 Creedmoor may take the place of the .270 Winchester, but the .270 Winchester will in turn take the place of the 7mm Remington Magnum, the .30-06 will take the place of the .300 Winchester Magnum, and so forth and so on. The overlaps in performance and the options available relative to each cartridge will continue to exist. The more things change the more they stay the same.
 
Tbitty said:
The article referenced .308 and .223 among possible future cartridges they bring this technology to. I would be interested to see the 308 for sure. I would really love it in a .25-06, although that's unlikely at least for a while . Probably see the full gambit of Creedmore line, and most popular cartridges like 243/270/308/30.06/maybe even 338.
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They’ve producing those calibers for SOCOM for a while now. A contract was announced several months ago soliciting submissions for new uppers that utilize current lower receiver groups designed to handle the increased velocity cartridges and thereby also extending the effective range. I believe there was also a contract more recently for some additional rifles chambered in calibers up to and including 50BMG that could handle increased pressures and velocities of new ammo tech.
 
RedTag said:
As this nu metal tech is gradually applied to all cartridges in the manufacturing lineup, each will maintain its current position relative to the others. The 6.5 Creedmoor may take the place of the .270 Winchester, but the .270 Winchester will in turn take the place of the 7mm Remington Magnum, the .30-06 will take the place of the .300 Winchester Magnum, and so forth and so on. The overlaps in performance and the options available relative to each cartridge will continue to exist. The more things change the more they stay the same.
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I doubt Federal will offer any of the older cartridges anytime soon. Keep in mind when it comes to 308 win, 30-06 and the like, joe blow might come along buy a box and run it through an M1 Garand, an early m1903, a pump or semi auto Remington and at 80k psi, that would catastrophic. For the sake of lawsuits, federal will probably keep this technology for newer cartridges (last 25 years?) to ensure most rifles are modern and capable of holding up.
 
mauser98 said:
I doubt Federal will offer any of the older cartridges anytime soon. Keep in mind when it comes to 308 win, 30-06 and the like, joe blow might come along buy a box and run it through an M1 Garand, an early m1903, a pump or semi auto Remington and at 80k psi, that would catastrophic. For the sake of lawsuits, federal will probably keep this technology for newer cartridges (last 25 years?) to ensure most rifles are modern and capable of holding up.
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Maybe they could rename peak loaded 30-06 to 300 Whelen?
 
Tbitty said:
www.outdoorlife.com

Federal Plus Peak 6.5 Creedmoor Ammunition Just Killed the 6.5 PRC

Federal's new Plus Peak is a high-pressure, high-velocity ammunition that's poised to change rifle cartridge design as we know it.
www.outdoorlife.com www.outdoorlife.com

Just read this article and watched a short clip about Federal's new "Plus Peak" ammunition coming out for the 6.5 Creedmore. For those who want the summary version:

Federal is taking their technology that created the 7mm Backcountry, and using it now for an existing cartridge. No new rifle or setup, just buy the new ammo and by it running higher pressures (safely), you gain 250-300 fps for same bullet, same setup. The Peak Alloy steel will he reloadable with new dies (being designed by appropriate companies) that are built to handle the steel, but probably not with your current setup. Unlike the 7BC, these are said to be able to use powders we may all have or can get, rather than proprietary blends, to achieve similar speeds, which is a change from the 7BC, too.
There is an expectation for this Plus Peak ammo line to expand to more existing cartridges over time. It's starting in the 6.5 Creedmore for now.

Consider me interested in the idea. It's exactly the fix for what I said Federal got wrong with the 7mm Backcountry. I did not want to go buy a new gun/cartridge to try this new ammunition. I will absolutely buy a box of new ammo for an existing gun to see if it can improve performance in something I already own (or want to own).

First shipments expected in August for thr 130 grain Terminal Ascent bullet, and 155 grain Tipped Fusion with "more to follow quickly." I do not have a hunting rifle in 6.5 creed, but do have a varmint/target rifle in one, so if prices are reasonable, I'll pick up a box or two to test. Occasionally I'll lug this heavy rig out to a blind for a deer/hog/coyote sit, but I don't want to carry it on a spot and stalk adventure.
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@Tbitty
Just read the article.
Sounds like they are reinventing the wheel.
Hornady did a similar thing years ago with their light magnum loads in some cartridges like the 30-06 & 303 Brit and others. Now they have the superformance loads.
It is possible to boost the performance of a lot of cartridges with modern powders. Look what I did with the Whelen.
Even in my 25 by switching from H4831sc/2213sc to superformance I was able to increase the velocity by 150-250 fps depending on bullet weight without apparent increase in pressure. A whole new ball game when you can send a 100gn Barnes tts down range at 3,600++ fps instead of 3,440fps. Game changer in trajectory and killing power.
Bob
 
Bob Nelson 35Whelen said:
@Tbitty
Just read the article.
Sounds like they are reinventing the wheel.
Hornady did a similar thing years ago with their light magnum loads in some cartridges like the 30-06 & 303 Brit and others. Now they have the superformance loads.
It is possible to boost the performance of a lot of cartridges with modern powders. Look what I did with the Whelen.
Even in my 25 by switching from H4831sc/2213sc to superformance I was able to increase the velocity by 150-250 fps depending on bullet weight without apparent increase in pressure. A whole new ball game when you can send a 100gn Barnes tts down range at 3,600++ fps instead of 3,440fps. Game changer in trajectory and killing power.
Bob
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Between modern powders and cases that can withstand an extra 33% pressure safely, the possibilities are way up there for some big time speed, and thereby trajectory and energy.
 
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