Good hunting in Hungary, bad experience with booking agent

We hunted in Mako, it’s some beautiful country! I do not know the weight of animals, it was not a trophy hunt, although he pushed me to hunt a, “gold medal” animal for an extra 4500€ I turned that down
Gold 600 plus size €4500 yes real ripe off like I said you really have no idea, you came to me asking if $9500 was a good price for a medal head is Spain
 
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Welcom Bobby.
I'm also interested in what area you hunted in? I am also interested in the arrangement you received. Have you had a trophy hunt or a cull hunt?
Thanks
happy to send you his package and the text messages clearly stating the deal out for him…,
 
Thanks for clearing that up. Looking at the Facebook link you attached it appeared the operation was for pheasants. So the agent was working on the bounty system. That explains a lot. You couldn't pay with credit card? Hmmm. On top of the 27% Hungarian wire tax you would presumably also need to pay the wire funds fee from your banking institution. Yikes. You're right, the agent should have made that tax crap clear in his contract.

So why was your shooting all five deer the first afternoon "all on him"? He didn't pull the trigger. With that many deer running around I would have put the gun away after the first one was down and just enjoyed the show for the rest of the day. One deer a day works for me. If the property needs more culled, they can work a better deal than €550 each. Maybe if the weather was sketchy I might decide to take the full bag the first day. Actually, if I tagged out the first day I probably would have grabbed a shotgun and shifted gears to pheasants for the rest of the days booked. Wingshooting is more fun anyway.
The pheasant post he put up is my hunting area in England guys Mako is our roe buck area. I will happily send you the information over as you can see Bobby just promoted my hunts again….. Bobby trust me I would rather you didn’t
 
Boy, did this turn into quite the soap opera! Good to read the other side of the story ... though it was difficult to read. I suggest clicking on the "inspect" icon in upper right corner of composing pane to review what is written and edit as needed before posting.

Seems the guide/agent has some complaints of his own that he's willing to backup with documentation. I gotta say, that much money for a small deer shot in a farmer's field seemed pricey to me. But I am accustomed to hunting in the American West which I acknowledge is a much different situation environmentally and culturally. And others have confirmed it's about the right price. So I have been educated.

I will say this with absolute emphasis, anyone who drooled Copenhagen down the side of my vehicle would be walking to Budapest. No one could pay me enough money to put up with that shit! Yes Bobby, I was born in your Idaho and raised in Montana so I know all about that filthy habit. My best friend in Montana who usually hunts with me at least once every fall chews but he would never dream of doing that to his rig, let alone someone else's.

If the guide is correct and Bobby couldn't hit water if he fell out of the boat, then roe deer must have been thick as bees if he shot five the first day. How much ammo did he bring with him?

Carry on fellas. I'll throw a bag of popcorn in the microwave.
 
OP, I am a bit confused. You said everything was rushed, but you shot 5 deer on your first day and were ready to leave. He had booked you for two additional days at the hotel. What was rushed?
 
I still.dont understand what the complaint is? He booked you too good of a hunt???
 
Boy, did this turn into quite the soap opera! Good to read the other side of the story ... though it was difficult to read. I suggest clicking on the "inspect" icon in upper right corner of composing pane to review what is written and edit as needed before posting.

Seems the guide/agent has some complaints of his own that he's willing to backup with documentation. I gotta say, that much money for a small deer shot in a farmer's field seemed pricey to me. But I am accustomed to hunting in the American West which I acknowledge is a much different situation environmentally and culturally. And others have confirmed it's about the right price. So I have been educated.

I will say this with absolute emphasis, anyone who drooled Copenhagen down the side of my vehicle would be walking to Budapest. No one could pay me enough money to put up with that shit! Yes Bobby, I was born in your Idaho and raised in Montana so I know all about that filthy habit. My best friend in Montana who usually hunts with me at least once every fall chews but he would never dream of doing that to his rig, let alone someone else's.

If the guide is correct and Bobby couldn't hit water if he fell out of the boat, then roe deer must have been thick as bees if he shot five the first day. How much ammo did he bring with him?

Carry on fellas. I'll throw a bag of popcorn in the microwave.
OH,

I don’t chew tobacco, any spitting done was due to allergies and the constant smoking, and vaping by Alex, I even asked him to stop, but he wouldn’t I have to constantly have lozenges in to keep
From coughing. I also was not on Facebook I was securing an alternative plan out of there because of his behavior, and making sure my wife was safe in Budapest as she was by herself in a city she’s never been, (all in which was a mutual decision of ours because I was promised if I came early I would be able to hunt, “The Prime Ministers Grounds”, which never happened and was confirmed by the owner and his daughter) He was equally on his phone the same, watching cameras and complaining that his wife or girlfriend was in his gun room stealing his stuff, wiping him out of his home and he’s have to live in a hotel. After talking to several of his “clients” and “partners” Since leaving I have concluded that everyone had dealt with the same type of things. Lies, grotesque behavior, and absolute rudeness.

Yes my shooting wasn’t the greatest this trip, but to be fair there are many factors, high winds, we were hunting in The Great Hungarian Plains, the wind in the first day where I had most of my issues was brutal, the deer were super skittish, and the rifle was unfamiliar to me with a super heavy trigger. But, any hunter who says that they don’t miss is a liar or hasn’t hunted enough.

What’s funny is the missed shot that Alex posted was filmed by my wife and sent to him, I have nothing to hide at all. There is proof on all sides. I never said the hunting was bad, it was the “guide”
Himself. If you read his post it sounds like a drunken rant of how he’s perfect and has done nothing h wrong. I’m not saying that I’m perfect, and i’m certainly not saying that I could have handled things difficult; it, if you’re “so sick” stay in… he certainly didn’t do anyone any favors.

This will be my last post regarding this. To answer the other questions, how was I rushed, I shot “my package” deer all in one evening. I was fine leaving early, when I asked to be complained and said that he gave up another client to have me there. There was never any promises that I would shoot more that what my package allowed. But he guilted me into staying, (that is 110% my fault), saying that the owners would be super upset if I left early, afterwards in conversations with them, they said that I was allied to leave at anytime and there was no hard feelings at all. But again, my issue was not with the hunting, it was the “guiding” and the rudeness of said guide. He talked crap on e dry client he had there before me saying they can’t shoot either.
 

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So was the booking agent along for the hunt? Didn't you have a contract before leaving? I am booked for eight days with my outfitter in Africa. It's in the letter of invitation I need to get my guns and myself into the country. Barring an emergency, I cannot simply decide to up and leave early. My outfitter has an expectation of commitments to run his business. I stay at his lodge so no motels involved. But in your case it appears this agent had an expectation you would stay a certain number of days and booked lodging accordingly, correct?

As to his crass behavior, no excuse for that. If you're hearing and smelling his farts, I'm presuming he was there in person. I think if I'd been at this operation, I probably would have been ready to stop after a day. Doesn't look like much hunting is involved when that many birds are shot in a day. And my experience with farm raised pheasants is they are not very challenging. Often the challenge is making them fly so they can be shot. But if the people are good to be around, I might be happy to hang out and watch others have at it and even pay for the privilege. But sounds like this oaf was not "good to be around." I presume you were paying by the bird? That might explain your agent's "rush, rush, rush" attitude. That kind of arrangement would be asking for pressure to be applied.
 
OH,

I don’t chew tobacco, any spitting done was due to allergies and the constant smoking, and vaping by Alex, I even asked him to stop, but he wouldn’t I have to constantly have lozenges in to keep
From coughing. I also was not on Facebook I was securing an alternative plan out of there because of his behavior, and making sure my wife was safe in Budapest as she was by herself in a city she’s never been, (all in which was a mutual decision of ours because I was promised if I came early I would be able to hunt, “The Prime Ministers Grounds”, which never happened and was confirmed by the owner and his daughter) He was equally on his phone the same, watching cameras and complaining that his wife or girlfriend was in his gun room stealing his stuff, wiping him out of his home and he’s have to live in a hotel. After talking to several of his “clients” and “partners” Since leaving I have concluded that everyone had dealt with the same type of things. Lies, grotesque behavior, and absolute rudeness.

Yes my shooting wasn’t the greatest this trip, but to be fair there are many factors, high winds, we were hunting in The Great Hungarian Plains, the wind in the first day where I had most of my issues was brutal, the deer were super skittish, and the rifle was unfamiliar to me with a super heavy trigger. But, any hunter who says that they don’t miss is a liar or hasn’t hunted enough.

What’s funny is the missed shot that Alex posted was filmed by my wife and sent to him, I have nothing to hide at all. There is proof on all sides. I never said the hunting was bad, it was the “guide”
Himself. If you read his post it sounds like a drunken rant of how he’s perfect and has done nothing h wrong. I’m not saying that I’m perfect, and i’m certainly not saying that I could have handled things difficult; it, if you’re “so sick” stay in… he certainly didn’t do anyone any favors.

This will be my last post regarding this. To answer the other questions, how was I rushed, I shot “my package” deer all in one evening. I was fine leaving early, when I asked to be complained and said that he gave up another client to have me there. There was never any promises that I would shoot more that what my package allowed. But he guilted me into staying, (that is 110% my fault), saying that the owners would be super upset if I left early, afterwards in conversations with them, they said that I was allied to leave at anytime and there was no hard feelings at all. But again, my issue was not with the hunting, it was the “guiding” and the rudeness of said guide. He talked crap on e dry client he had there before me saying they can’t shoot either.
So all my other hunters are wrong to right Booby??? Buddy face if you acted like an ass you got called out on it and you are butt hurt, easy thing to do and of course manly thing and jump on the net …., I am happy to show anyone our hunting set up and you can make your own mind up! Bobby high winds please stop now this is making you sound very silly.

So you asked us to stop vaping??? as we all
did ? And I watched what was going on back home? I don’t have cameras back home you so full of crap it’s laughable now. You was spitting non stop and on your phone the whole time you was out in the field, it looked like tobacco between your teeth or gaps in them you was spitting out?

Anyway Peter and I are sat reading this with our mouths open as you really believe this crap you are talking. You was never rushed you just shot bad and 34 shots in two days can you explain to everyone how this is me rushing and making you shoot so many ??? All you said was I shoot 200 rounds a week

As for the VIP grounds you was not going to be taken there after you said you wanted to shoot around 10 bucks only and your shooting did not suit that ground, you was asked not to mention these grounds as Peter is lucky to have them but as you are on this post showing no respect or thanks for the privilege you was going to be given.

Your wife’s vides are the only two you hit on camera I have the rest to show these high winds etc. Your both very easy to show upset as even your wife arrived crying you said as she got asked to stand behind a safety line at the train station apparently this was Hungarian bad behaviour also “ asking your wife to be safe “ wow you guys are hard to please….

Bobby now if we have different views we have different views but to jump on the net and bash us after shooting 13 bucks in 2 days after 34 shots and then finding out the prices are more then fair and not expecting any come back from me why don’t you put it down as a learning curve, as I also have looked into your pass hunts and it makes me laugh how this pattern follows you sir.

Sorry to all about this post and after 22 years I would put my hands in the air if there was anything wrong but all of this wrong and for him to shoot shoot shoot and for him to bring all this up in the last day or better when home first class Bobby another ✔️ for the hunting world

Now Peter and I have work to do.

Good luck in your hunting life and stay safe to all.
 
Whew! I need to really pull up a chair for this one.
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I don't go through a booking agent. I arrange my own flights and pay the extra for free flight changes when disruptions occur. I make all my flights be the simplest.
 

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