Cape buffalo scrum cap or old warrior mounts

HookMeUpII said:
To each their own I suppose. All that matters really is how you look at it when you see it on the wall or table. If you like ones with deep, long drops in the horns, that's fine. Maybe you're someone who likes an old gray in the face bull with broken horns.

First off, it seems that they aren't that easy to find. I know someone on here posted a photo report from a country that was closed to buffalo hunting and the amount of old broken scrum caps and super old horns was more than I'd ever imagine. I think it was Kenya or Uganda? Yet, when you look at open hunting areas in Zim, Tanzania, etc. it doesn't seem like there are that many. Maybe they all get shot? I wonder on that one. I'd love to know the answer.

My next quest will definitely be buffalo. I honestly don't know how I'd feel if I had the opportunity at a broken down old bull. I want to say that I am going with the animal that 1) looks appealing to me and 2) gives me an opportunity. I can't say I'd spend 10 straight days tracking one, single, scrum cap buffalo and then pass up 2-3 shooters in the meantime.
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Uganda is open to hunting and seems to produce a lot of scrum caps. Buffalo numbers and visibility are likely the largest components. In Uganda, you can look over large numbers of buffalo on dry relatively open ground and shoot at 100 yards. In Zimbabwe, it’s a tracking hunt and you shoot your buffalo up close in thick brush. You can’t selectively pick and choose as easy as a spot and stalk area with high visibility.
 
375Fox said:
Uganda is open to hunting and seems to produce a lot of scrum caps. Buffalo numbers and visibility are likely the largest components. In Uganda, you can look over large numbers of buffalo on dry relatively open ground and shoot at 100 yards. In Zimbabwe, it’s a tracking hunt and you shoot your buffalo up close in thick brush. You can’t selectively pick and choose as easy as a spot and stalk area with high visibility.
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That would explain that. Based on what you said, it would seem the hunters there are NOT targeting the scrum caps with broken horns because they can actually survey a larger number of the population.

Zim, being thicker, makes it harder to even find the buffalo in the first place. So there may be a lot of scrum caps, they just don't see them.

I wish I could find the report the person posted. It was probably the most amount of mature buffalo I saw in any report. They did say, I recall, the area they were in wasn't open to hunting. It was a photo safari or sorts with hunting in another separate area.
 
HookMeUpII said:
That would explain that. Based on what you said, it would seem the hunters there are NOT targeting the scrum caps with broken horns because they can actually survey a larger number of the population.

Zim, being thicker, makes it harder to even find the buffalo in the first place. So there may be a lot of scrum caps, they just don't see them.

I wish I could find the report the person posted. It was probably the most amount of mature buffalo I saw in any report. They did say, I recall, the area they were in wasn't open to hunting. It was a photo safari or sorts with hunting in another separate area.
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I’m not sure the report you’d be referencing but you can look up the Tim Herald Uganda videos on YouTube. They specifically targeted scrum caps. I don’t know where else you’d have the ability to do that.

Edit: I think maybe you were referencing hunting adjacent Kruger. Another member said you cannot take scrum caps there because you can’t evaluate what their trophy potential/genetics were before breaking horns.
 
375Fox said:
Edit: I think maybe you were referencing hunting adjacent Kruger. Another member said you cannot take scrum caps there because you can’t evaluate what their trophy potential/genetics were before breaking horns.
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On our October 2025 elephant & buffalo combo hunt in the Greater Kruger (APNR), I did ask the Warden about scrum cap buffalo. He said no scrum cap bulls may be taken however a bull with only one broken horn on one side may be taken. Note: observing between 400-500 buffalo, including some large old bulls, I did not see any scrum cap or broken horned bulls, not even those with broomed horn tips.
 
375Fox said:
I’m not sure the report you’d be referencing but you can look up the Tim Herald Uganda videos on YouTube. They specifically targeted scrum caps. I don’t know where else you’d have the ability to do that.

Edit: I think maybe you were referencing hunting adjacent Kruger. Another member said you cannot take scrum caps there because you can’t evaluate what their trophy potential/genetics were before breaking horns.
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This was definitely not RSA. I just looked all over to try and find the thread and cannot. It was a country or area (not RSA) that was closed to hunting. He was with his wife and took a bunch of photos with a high end camera.

I want to say it was Kenya.
 
Shot this Gemsbok at my Oufitter´s request Limpopo 2013.

Did not pay anything for it.


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375Fox said:
Every time I see one on this forum from Caprivi I always ask it was shot on exportable trophy quota or own-use non-exportable quota. Somehow I never receive an answer. That makes me think they are shot on non-exportable quota. It’s a very unique trophy when it’s a discounted trophy fee. I think a lot less hunters are wiling to shoot them at full price than say they want one.
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I'll be pay full price no problem. Best trophy I could wish. The said if I feel there is negotiation room to haggle my Dutch blood can't help myself :ROFLMAO: .
 
All the talk about the love of old scrum capped warrior buffalos. The OP asked to see the mounts. And not one shoulder mount pic yet and we are well thru page 3 of comments.
 
migrabill said:
All the talk about the love of old scrum capped warrior buffalos. The OP asked to see the mounts. And not one shoulder mount pic yet and we are well thru page 3 of comments.
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And what does that tell you?
 

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What is an “old warrior mount”?
 
NIGHTHAWK said:

“Cape buffalo scrum cap or old warrior mounts”​


What is an “old warrior mount”?
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One with a lot of older traits. Worn, ragged bosses. Broken horns. Gray in the face/body. Etc.
 
Here is my Tanzanian scrum cap at the taxidermist. It should be home by May (I hope). I wanted a shoulder mount to display this truly ancient warrior!
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Good for you! Please send the pics when he is completed.
 
If I ever have the pleasure of taking a scrum cap I am mounting a full skull to the corner of my desk
 
I took this picture in Madikwe game reserve in 2018. My comment was "Now that is a proper buffalo'
If you put him and a 50 in buff in its prime. I will shoot the old broken bull every time.

This type of bull doesn't appeal to everyone, so hunt hard and be respectful of everyone else's choices.
 

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