Would you or have you hunted with an outfitter because of a “Hunting Celebrity” or Influencer?

I enjoy watching some of the hunting shows on youtube but typically only the ones without celebrity hunters/ influencers. I feel its more of an authentic feel to them. I like others have said like to see the interactions of the PH /outfitters with the clients to see if they would be someone I could spend a week with. I prefer word of mouth and the average joes personal hunt experience's with the outfitter.
 
No. But with the prime concessions in Africa many of the ph’s are now or get their own celebrity status on YouTube and word of mouth.

I have filmed a couple of tv shows for Texas trophy hunters with celebrities and would never let them influence me or probably even hunt with them unless I was paid
Prime example is Ted Nugget , after helping the PH with the camera crew and logistics
And spending the week with Ted Nugget I would say never again.
Earl Campbell ( nfl legend) was my last celebrity guest I hunted with ( he was a nice guy)
 
Yes, Craig Boddington endorsed outfitter on a bear hunt in Idaho. It wasn't a great experience for me. The hunt was cancelled by the outfitter on the day before the hunt was to start. It was cancelled for personally reasons, but I had already arrived in Idaho. The hunt was rescheduled for the following year.

The hunt was completed the following year, and I took a cinnamon bear on rather the small size. The outfitter thought the bear was larger than it turned out to be. I certainly could not judge the bear at 400 yards.

The hard part was the price of the hunt was not in proportion to the quality of the hunt. The outfitter is no longer a Craig Boddington endorsed outfitter.

I will never use another endorsed outfitter but will fully research all outfitters myself!
 
No. The opposite. I want to hunt at a place before it blows up into high status. lol
I don’t want 5 star lodge and a place that will house a lot of people.
I also prefer to hunt at places which don’t spend thousands of dollars on shows travel,etc either.
The more of that stuff they have the less likely you are going to get a custom personal experience in my opinion.
I was fortunate to hunt 2 places before they were featured on several TV shows. I probably not book solely on a show, magazine article or the like, I’m going to call and talk to references if possible but at least exchange emails at a minimum.
 
Not likely. Too many of them play to the camera and come across to me as rather phony. Looks too much like a setup. When I looked for an outfitter I talked to several and got references of some of their clients whom I called and talked to. Narrowed it down to a small family owned business in the Eastern Cape. Excellent choice. Top notch accommodations, wide hunting area, not too many other people in camp. I collected all the species I had on my list the first year. Hunted with them the next two safaris with great success. I would have gone back again but covid killed that one.
 
Do our “local” AH hunting celebrities count? :)

If yes I’m guilty as charged
 
Like many folks have replied, not really. I have hunted with outfitters that you will find on youtube due to some outdoor/hunting writer having hunted with them, but that is not the reason I chose them.
If I see an outfitter on youtube or even a full fledge hunting show, I just see that as a data point in my collection of many data points gathered by speaking with the outfitter myself, some recommendations from other hunters and this great AH site frankly.
I have a few examples but one is that I met with Kowas Safaris at DSC one year and a buddy and I hunted with them within 6 months of that meeting. In the interim time period I noticed that Joseph Von Benedikt did a show with them on his Backcountry Hunting Podcast, and had hunted with them multiple times before. I just took it as a further recommendation really. I will say that the hunt with Kowas was outstanding too. Cheers
 
Definitely yes. I think very few who says otherwise are being honest with themselves. I don't follow any "influencers" but I would not have hunted Uganda if it were not for videos I watched on YouTube. This year at SCI my wife and I were down to two yacht based black bear hunts, the videos of both outfits we watched on YouTube were the final deciding factor in us deciding with whom to book.

Have any of you ever booked a hunt because of a hunting report or guidance received here on AH? This is a form of social media and it would certainly count as being influenced in my book.
 
I am extra skeptical when looking up outfitters recommended on hunting shows. I wouldn't book a hunt just because they were recommended on a hunting show. Multiple times I have looked up reviews for outfitters I saw on hunting shows and saw many people say that they had terrible times and felt like they only rolled out the red carpet and put in a lot of effort for famous clients.

I have ended up hunting a few places where "famous hunters" had gone the same year or previous year or were coming right after me. All of those were good experiences with good outfitters I had researched independently. It has also been fun seeing the same places I hunted on TV shows or in videos I liked. But it wouldn't even make a 1% difference to me when I'm researching places to book.

The opinion of people whose opinion can be bought, has negative equity to me.
Another big red flag is a heavy gold cross hanging outside the shirt for everyone to see. Seen more liars doing this than honest people. This is often seen with sales persons....and that is what an influencer is.
 
I don't understand why you would do that to yourself.

I have hunted with two CBO outfitters. I wouldn't hunt with either one of them again.

One of them became a CBO outfitter after I hunted with him.

The other one touted it.

Either way, I wouldn't do it.

I will say this.

There is tv special with Ron Spomer and a couple other writers, where they hunt with Steve Jones from Back Country hunts for Aoudad. They end up wrecking his pickup and they made a DVD out of it. I can't remember who else is in this thing.

I ran into Steve in Cloudcroft at the BBQ place, and we spoke about it. He said he wouldn't take TV or gunwriters anymore based off that experience.

I would book with him.

This is the article, I didn' know this existed until today: https://sportingclassicsdaily.com/best-little-aoudad-hunt/
 
Do our “local” AH hunting celebrities count? :)

If yes I’m guilty as charged

A paid product spokesperson who doesn’t disclose their financial relationship to their benefactor is akin to prostituting one’s character for money. If, however a spokesperson does disclose their financial relationship, then they are at least an honest actor.

If, however a celebrity endorsed a product, hunt, or rifle without any compensation, then maybe I’d consider it if that celebrity is a subject matter expert of those things. Now, without compensation means no free or highly discounted gear or hunts. Otherwise their endorsement would be biased. That is only human.

Let’s face it, it is human to be biased toward things we know or have done. Humans are tribal because most humans needed to bond together for survival right up to the 20th Century. Even today we like people, things, automobile brands, sports teams, states we grew up in and so on because we know or have a connection to them. That includes the rifles and cartridges we shoot, the PH’s we hunt with and the products we buy. The terms “Branding” and “Brand Loyalty” very much have merit. Deep brand loyality such as the die hard sports team guys are in that team's tribe.

As stated above, I’d rather gather my information and opinions locally and for African hunts that means from my AH friends. If I converse with six people I may receive half for, and half against a PH. If, however I get five or six positives, I’m going to engage that PH or their operator.
 
Saw @375 Ruger Fan post in another thread and thought this would make a good topic.

Would you, or have you ever made a decision to hunt with an outfitter because of a “Hunting Celebrity” or “Hunting Influencer”?

I love watching hunting shows just like the next guy, but personally, I put very little credibility in “Hunting Celebrity” endorsements and even less in the current world of Influencer endorsements. I’ll actually go so far as to say if I see “Hunting Influencer” endorsements I run the other way. Hunting Celebrities have definitely influenced me on wanting to hunt somewhere or something, but never been the reason I reached out to Outfitters XYZ. It might’ve helped narrow down a country or location like NWT over BC, Alaska, or the Yukon but the decision was made based on talking to all the outfitters in each area, and their average joe references.

I completely understand the marketing tactic behind it, but I personally avoid them. Working in Sales & Marketing I see how most celebrities and almost all “influencers” are aren’t loyal to a product or brand, they’re just loyal to the paycheck from a brand (regardless of industry). I’m sure I’m painting with a fairly broad brush but IMO if an outfitter was so good, he/she wouldn’t need to give away or discount a hunt, to get his/her operation on TV or onto the internet. They’d have a fairly long waiting list and be booked a year or two out. There are a couple “celebrities” that I’ve met over the years who’s endorsement I give a little more value to, but I’d never go on a hunt based solely on their endorsement of let their endorsement sway me.

Now an operator who works with a videographer to film and publish different clients hunts I view a bit differently. An example of this would be Dalton & York working with Andy Buchanan of TIA, or Vaughan Vosloo of Untamed.

What are your thoughts? Do celebrity endorsements sway your decision? Do the T&A endorsements of influencers make you look into a product or service?


Only those that are famous because they are THAT GOOD. Not people that became famous due to PR.

An old-school example of someone that is moderately famous because he is an extermely good PH would be John Sharp in Zimbabwe. While I've not met them, the Duckworths are pretty well regarded as a PH dynasty.

I'm not sure if Ivan Carter is still operating, but he became really well known for being a PH, not first a TV personality.

But no, I'm not paying a premium to hunt with a TV personality because they are a TV personality.

Most of the anecdotes I've heard of TV hunting personalities coming onto their properties for hunting were not in a favorable light. Edited for competence and ethics was the general theme of their cutting room floor.
 
Saw @375 Ruger Fan post in another thread and thought this would make a good topic.

Would you, or have you ever made a decision to hunt with an outfitter because of a “Hunting Celebrity” or “Hunting Influencer”?

I love watching hunting shows just like the next guy, but personally, I put very little credibility in “Hunting Celebrity” endorsements and even less in the current world of Influencer endorsements. I’ll actually go so far as to say if I see “Hunting Influencer” endorsements I run the other way. Hunting Celebrities have definitely influenced me on wanting to hunt somewhere or something, but never been the reason I reached out to Outfitters XYZ. It might’ve helped narrow down a country or location like NWT over BC, Alaska, or the Yukon but the decision was made based on talking to all the outfitters in each area, and their average joe references.

I completely understand the marketing tactic behind it, but I personally avoid them. Working in Sales & Marketing I see how most celebrities and almost all “influencers” are aren’t loyal to a product or brand, they’re just loyal to the paycheck from a brand (regardless of industry). I’m sure I’m painting with a fairly broad brush but IMO if an outfitter was so good, he/she wouldn’t need to give away or discount a hunt, to get his/her operation on TV or onto the internet. They’d have a fairly long waiting list and be booked a year or two out. There are a couple “celebrities” that I’ve met over the years who’s endorsement I give a little more value to, but I’d never go on a hunt based solely on their endorsement of let their endorsement sway me.

Now an operator who works with a videographer to film and publish different clients hunts I view a bit differently. An example of this would be Dalton & York working with Andy Buchanan of TIA, or Vaughan Vosloo of Untamed.

What are your thoughts? Do celebrity endorsements sway your decision? Do the T&A endorsements of influencers make you look into a product or service?
No I have not
 
I don't hold any value in celebrity hunting; I hunt for me. If someone wants to hunt with a celebrity, then it's a personal decision.
 
No and no. I prefer to hunt alone. And most who have hunted with me preferred that I hunt alone. :D
I prefer a one on one. I don't want to be worrying about some stranger who might make a mistake and cause a tragedy .
 
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A "celebrity" or especially an "Influencer" plug for an outfitter is a demerit in my book. As others have said, its just paid advertising and often has little or no relation to what an average hunter would experience.

I do enjoy watching Youtube Channels like African Sun Productions and some of the other mentioned. Usually the Hunter has paid for these Videos and the videographer posts on Youtube to make a little extra Scratch. They can give you a feel for Lodges, a PH's personality, Hunting Areas, etc. Even these videos should be viewed with some skepticism though. Everyone changes, to some extent, when the camera is on.
 
Good question. I wouldn't even consider it. Most hunts with celebrity include a bougie place which I'm not interested it
 

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