Fenced in? Dont think so.

I know a lot of people have a problem with fences. That is your right.
But there is very little animals in Africa that is kept in with High game fences, and almost none with cattle fences.
 
Watched the first video. That’s not much of a fence. An operator has quite the financial incentive to keep valuable animals like kudu contained so that video doesn’t mean much. I have no problem with a fence if the property is large enough and the practices within it are “proper”(I think the overwhelming majority of AH members don’t have a problem with fences per se, given those caveats). This topic has been beaten to death an almost innumerable amount of times.
 
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Wishfulthinker580 said:
Watched the first video. That’s not much of a fence. An operator has quite the financial incentive to keep valuable animals like kudu contained so that video doesn’t mean much. I have no problem with a fence if the property is large enough and the practices within it are “proper”(I think the overwhelming majority of AH members don’t have a problem with fences per se, given those caveats). This topic has been beaten to death an almost innumerable amount of times.
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Agree. The first is not a game fence. The second is, but a bit lower than most I have seen in South Africa. On the whole, they work very well at keeping valuable assets on the correct property.
 
Well we had proper 8ft fences on my family farm, used to have no wild life at all and we put Impala and blesbuck on the property. We did not have our own Kudu, but we shot 2-3 every year. Cows and bulls. Even got a Bwb, ostrich, Red hartebeest and a Waterbuck. So the animals do move around.
 
Eland are well known for their ability to jump all but the highest fences.

Years ago, I watched a big, mature whitetail clear an 8' high fence in South Texas. I wouldn't have believed it had I not seen it. The doe he was tending tried to follow him but panicked at the last second and plowed straight into the fence.

Ed Z
 
I watched a kudu jump a 9 ft fence after taking a .300 WM in the boiler room.
 
One of my favorite "art in motion" things to watch is a deer jumping a fence from a side view.

I let a nice 8 point, 4-5 yr whitetail go just to let him jump the fence a few seasons ago. Early, Misty morning. Then I sat there finishing my coffee with a big dumb grin on my face.
 
Vintageguy said:
I’ve seen kudu take a full height game fence as effortlessly as the one in the first video took the short fence.
The PH, after seeing my amazement, dryly stated, “no one owns a kudu bull, they go where they like”.
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Yeah, PH on my last hunt said basically the same. Said they've killed more than a few tagged kudu that have jumped onto their property.

Interesting about eland, he said they get in close and parallel to the fence before hopping over.
 
Vintageguy said:
I’ve seen kudu take a full height game fence as effortlessly as the one in the first video took the short fence.
The PH, after seeing my amazement, dryly stated, “no one owns a kudu bull, they go where they like”.
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Exactly. Even the kudu doesn't know what he wants sometimes...but he goes there anyways.
 
No one tries to claim high fences in Texas are actually free range. I won’t understand why so many try to tell themselves it is hunting South Africa. The fence is a significant barrier to game movement. I think I’d safely say a well maintained high fence holds in 99% of game except warthogs, bushbuck, and the few eland bulls that decide they want out. I do find it interesting that even during the worst droughts there is still nice grass on the sides of the road between game fences when the ground is bare inside the fence since fences apparently aren’t a barrier for game.
 
First time I saw an Eland jump a fence in SA, I couldn´t believe it.
 
To be fair, that's not a "high fence."

The areas that I've seen with "high fences" are quite literally that, 12-15' fences. That's a guess but they were really high. Standing in the back of the safari truck, the top of the fence was another 5-6' above my head. These were perimeter fences, not the internal cattle fences you'll sometimes see.

Having said that. There are still animals in which they don't apply. Warthogs that dig under and leopards that go over are two examples.

One of the most remarkable things I've seen in RSA was a gemsbok go under a cattle fence. The animal literally compressed to like 20% of its total at the shoulder height and slinked right under, horns and all.

I am not getting into what's right or wrong or how you should hunt. That's up to the individual to decide.
 
375Fox said:
No one tries to claim high fences in Texas are actually free range. I won’t understand why so many try to tell themselves it is hunting South Africa. The fence is a significant barrier to game movement. I think I’d safely say a well maintained high fence holds in 99% of game except warthogs, bushbuck, and the few eland bulls that decide they want out. I do find it interesting that even during the worst droughts there is still nice grass on the sides of the road between game fences when the ground is bare inside the fence since fences apparently aren’t a barrier for game.
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