So the 308 Win seems approved by AH, what about the rifle?

the 6mm springfield would shoot flat.
but the 6.5 springfield would be the current darling of the hipster set.
bruce.

Along with Latte and Man Buns
 
well now the springfield case is obsolete.
the new 277 sig cartridge with a steel case head is loaded to 80,000 psi, and gives sprinfield case capacity ballistics with a much shorter case.
so the obvious question here is where does this new technology leave bob.
he can now use this case necked down to 25, and up to 35, to get the same ballistics as his 25 wildcat and the 35 springfield in a short action.
perhaps in one of the new savage straight pulls.
only 1 gun required and 2 barrels.
manbuns out and shaven tattooed heads in.
latte out and earl grey tea in.
bruce.
 
well now the springfield case is obsolete.
the new 277 sig cartridge with a steel case head is loaded to 80,000 psi, and gives sprinfield case capacity ballistics with a much shorter case.
so the obvious question here is where does this new technology leave bob.
he can now use this case necked down to 25, and up to 35, to get the same ballistics as his 25 wildcat and the 35 springfield in a short action.
perhaps in one of the new savage straight pulls.
only 1 gun required and 2 barrels.
manbuns out and shaven tattooed heads in.
latte out and earl grey tea in.
bruce.
@bruce moulds
You know I don't like technology and I'm happy with the old that I have. If'n I got that new 35 you wumped up I wouldn't be able to get bullets to suit it so what would be the use.
OLD STILL WORKS FINE FOR ME
Bob
 
bob,
no the cases need to have steel heads to take the pressure.
at 80,000 psi, i wonder how long machine gun barrels will last in that calibre.
when the us military fully adopts the cartridge, i would like shares in some barrel making facilities.
bruce.
 
@bruce moulds
You know I don't like technology and I'm happy with the old that I have. If'n I got that new 35 you wumped up I wouldn't be able to get bullets to suit it so what would be the use.
OLD STILL WORKS FINE FOR ME
Bob
Old, I see a pattern forming.
 
My wife's Winchester M70 308.......20 inch barrel

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One of the newer Super Grade FW M70s, had the barrel cut to a proper 18 inches.........

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My Sporter M70, again barrel cut to proper 18 inches..............

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These can also be put in the very light Winchester Ultimate stocks...........

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Not fitting all the descriptions but I would consider the Mauser M18. Less than 1000 euro's in a 308. Weight is 2.9 kg. Barrel 56 cm
 
I have a Tikka and a couple of older sako's. I'm also a mechanical engineer by trade and i believe I get to have an opinion on the mechanical design of these rifles. In my opinion, the Tikka is a superior design to most other on the market. Extremely smooth action. Very sturdy and accurate. Easily serviced and maintained. Rugged and very easy to use. The safety is silent, functional and very easy to disengage. Having done some simple gunsmithing on the sako's, i can tell you that the tikka is much much more rational and will probably have less small parts breakage over time.

The only drawback of the tikka is that the magazine solution is kind of boring. The single stack plastic mags feed extremely well but you can't load them when they're in the gun. Part of me prefers the charm of a hinged floorplate rifle... But if you're going with a synthetic stock you're probably just looking for a dependable shooting machine anyway. For that purpose the tikka is perfect. Much less expensive than the Blaser for example, and it does have some longevity features that the less expensive Sauer and Mauser models lack. Specifically, they have pressed barrels whereas the Tikka has a traditional solution where the barrel is threaded into the receiver.
 
Have you ever considered the new Barrett Fieldcraft rifles? I have one in 6.5CM and the word "jewel" comes to mind every time I handle it.

The 308 in 18 barrel would seem to fit the ticket for you.
Note, he is suggesting the .308 is what you need.
I like his choice of rifle I did research them.
I’ll throw in the Ruger Scout into the ring. Available in 16”and 18” barrels. Mine is a 16”, not as light as others but not a chore to carry.



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I used one, he needs the Suppressor.
My mates was loud and he moved it on.

I own some Tikkas.They work well.

I have Tikka CTR's in 7mm-08 and .308, heavy for your requirement but they are threaded in 20" and have the double stack magazine

I would be reluctant to go below 20"

If you have to shorten one try 20" or 19 for something different.

I think anything below 18 is going to be very loud for the shooter.
 
I have a Tikka and a couple of older sako's. I'm also a mechanical engineer by trade and i believe I get to have an opinion on the mechanical design of these rifles. In my opinion, the Tikka is a superior design to most other on the market. Extremely smooth action. Very sturdy and accurate. Easily serviced and maintained. Rugged and very easy to use. The safety is silent, functional and very easy to disengage. Having done some simple gunsmithing on the sako's, i can tell you that the tikka is much much more rational and will probably have less small parts breakage over time.

The only drawback of the tikka is that the magazine solution is kind of boring. The single stack plastic mags feed extremely well but you can't load them when they're in the gun. Part of me prefers the charm of a hinged floorplate rifle... But if you're going with a synthetic stock you're probably just looking for a dependable shooting machine anyway. For that purpose the tikka is perfect. Much less expensive than the Blaser for example, and it does have some longevity features that the less expensive Sauer and Mauser models lack. Specifically, they have pressed barrels whereas the Tikka has a traditional solution where the barrel is threaded into the receiver.
It's good to have an engineer chime in.
I'm not an engineer nor trade qualified but I do try nut things out as am am practical and do a lot of fabric action. I like guns I've always tinkered with them.

Now I had a Tikka M55 in .222, later sold it. Replaced it with a Howa based on price and availability.

Then I got my first brand new Tikka T3, in Stainless Laminate.

Well I did what I do and pulled it apart and went over it. There was something drastically wrong! The recoil lug is not connected to the action. I've bedded a few rifles so I knew what I was looking at. I understand they are all made from one action length, some manufacturers use 2,3 or older Sakis up to 5 different length actions I think.
So , I understand the bolt stop, the magazine, the Ughh plastic floorplate. Ok those bits can be replaced by after market "upgrades".

Did work out at the time the Tikka are very modular.

I'm still worried about the recoil lug being back to front from normal. I did order the titanium lug and bought a proper bedding compound. I achieved a decent bedding job and still could make sense of the backward lug set up. The rifle worked.

I kept reading , I kept reading they work, they shoot, they are accurate, they just work . And they were proving themselves in the Australian market. Howa work too but for a moderate price increase we could have a Tikka, a poor man's Sako.

Anyway, finally it dawned on me. The Tikka engineers are in fact smarter than me and they are engineer's. So even with there backward recoil lug the rifles are capable of good accuracy and are machined to a high standard.

Later I found a Tikka CTR in 7mm-08. I always wanted a 7-08 so I bought the CTR. A slightly different platform on the same action.

And now have 4 . others.

I take advantage of that Modularity and I can swap accessories or reconfigure them making me a real Tikka Tweaker.

I imagine the recoil lug setup is adequately strong and dependable and capable of close tolerance to , just work.

I expect it might lower machining costs and be just fine.

Can the engineer add to the logic or pros and cons of such a system please?
 

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