Politics

[Rocked and Loaded]

And just a little reminder. Fascist rulers don’t allow protests and respond to them with bullets and billy clubs instead of Twitter shitposts.

Think of that. Protesters carrying signs that said 8647 were mocked instead of being sent to gulags.

The left is chasing a fantasy and it’s telling that in spite of one side shooting an opposing presidential candidate, taking over blocks of major cities, burning, rioting, and looting, murdering political activists on live tv and threatening violence daily, both on air and online, that the “fascist” government they hate still allows 7 million of them to freely gather and pretend they are part of a massive resistance.

This is why they lost in 2024. Not because of racism, sexism, or fascism, but because they have no answers and don’t live in the real world. For all of Trump’s massive imperfections, all he has to do is seem less crazy than these people.

This is what the left thinks is normal, well adjusted, behavior. This is the level of political discourse that Frostbite thinks deserves valid debate rather than mockery.

 

[Wheels]

Big question?

It's not a question at all.

The people that the Zionists drove out have a right to the land.

That was easy.

I see you live in Minnesota.

When was the last time you offered to give your home to a Chippewa or Sioux.

 

[deewayne2003]

I see you live in Minnesota.

When was the last time you offered to give your home to a Chippewa or Sioux.

Their handing it over to the Somalis

 

[Frostbite]

I see you live in Minnesota.

When was the last time you offered to give your home to a Chippewa or Sioux.

It's Ojibwe, not Chippewa.

Anishinaabe is even better.

Anyway, that war is over.

Leonard Peltier has been released.

The Amerindians now are American citizens and have profitable casinos.

The war for Palestine still rages.

 

[deewayne2003]

That war is over.

Leonard Peltier has been released.

The Amerindians now are American citizens and have profitable casinos.

The war for Palestine still rages.

Fadlan, iska aamus!

 

[Brent in Az]

Hunting stand or sniper's hide??

I would put my money on sniper hide. I seriously doubt there's any legal hunting around the airport

 

[Ray B]

@Frostbite HA HA HA HA HA HA
So you traded with the "Amerindians" Casinos. Liquor Stores and Tobacco shops for their Land. that would seem a one-sided deal- However,

In Washington State it's coming back to bite the "whites"- One of the larger casinos is taking their profits and purchasing logged-over forestland from various timber companies who bought the land from the USFS. they have bought so much in one area northeast of Mt Rainier that it makes up one entire Department of Fish & Wildlife game management unit. then the tribe lobbied the F&W to close the unit to big game hunting- which applies only to whites. Naturally, the Amerindians have exclusive hunting rights to the unit- No License, No Limit, No Closed Season.

 

[rookhawk]

Gold is down 6% today, Silver is down 7% today. Some might call that a massive sell off.

You know what I call it? A massive buying opportunity. If you had bought gold just TWO WEEKS ago it is still $100 per ounce UP even after today's sell-off.

 

[Frostbite]

I would put my money on sniper hide. I seriously doubt there's any legal hunting around the airport

Your doubt is correct.

No, there is no legal hunting near the Palm Beach International Airport (PBI). The immediate area surrounding the airport is within a federal safety zone that strictly prohibits hunting and the discharging of weapons. The location is also highly developed with residential and commercial areas, making hunting illegal and unsafe.

However, we have all seen people sneak in where not wanted.

But it doesn't look like any hunter's stand that I've ever seen.

Maybe it's just another lie trying to get sympathy for Trump?

Looks more like old debris from a plane crash.

 

[Frostbite]

Gold is down 6% today, Silver is down 7% today. Some might call that a massive sell off.

You know what I call it? A massive buying opportunity. If you had bought gold just TWO WEEKS ago it is still $100 per ounce UP even after today's sell-off.

I like silver as the best bet right now.

Only if you really want to buy now.

It might be better to hold off for a while.

 

[Doug Hamilton]

Americans have never voted for heavily armed and masked storm troopers knocking down doors in the middle of the night and violently arresting suspects without probable cause or incarcerating them without due process.

Americans have never voted for a president to flagrantly violate the laws and to illegally make up his own laws.

These are tactics of the lawless leader of a banana republic--not America.

Those who support such atrocities do not deserve to be called Americans.

The current backlash against Trump will only get worse.

Oh you are wrong there. Americans did vote to to have illegal aliens removed from this country. As illegal aliens, they do not have the rights of due process guaranteed to US citizens. This has been approved in the courts. Now what "due process" could you be talking about? The individuals are either here legally or they aren't.

You have probably never had to deal with any gang members. I have. They should be rounded up and returned (without any medical benefits beyond emergency life saving care) to whichever pest hole country they came from. The sooner the better.

Will the losers of the last election continue to whine? Probably. Will the insane leftists continue to hold rallies and rant with their TDS babbling? Most likely. Will the majority of American voters support them? Not a chance.

 

[Sideshow]

You mention that @mdwest statements are contemporary history yet you go back only 100 years. One hundred years seems fairly contemporary to me. There is a lot more history to the region than 100 years.

Virtually every person in the world lives on conquered land. Israel conquered the land from the Canaanites around 1400BC. There are no peoples known as Canaaninites today.

The first time a derivative of Palestine is mentioned in history is around 1100 BC by Egypt. They used the word Peleset, denoting the Phlistines who had five city states along the coast. Ashkelon, Ashdod, Gaza, Ekron and Gath. You can find those cities on a map today. The Philistines were a branch of the “Sea People” which included Phoenicians/Lebanon who settled in the eastern Mediterranean around 1200 BC, and gave everyone in the neighborhood headaches.

A tremendous amount of history went on throughout the years between 1400 BC to 130AD. I don’t care to write a dissertation, so I will skip it. During most of that time the land was called Israel or Judea due to the people that lived there. In 130 AD Rome had just put down the Third Jewish revolt and were pissed to say the least. Rome had all the maps changed to Syria Palaestinia. That’s where the word Palestine comes from. A foreign country hacked at the Jews for causing trouble so they changed the name of their country. The term has been used by most to this day. The Philistines as a people basically disappeared around 600BC at the hands of the Babylonians. There is probably Philistine bloodlines in the region but the people who live in Gaza are no longer Philistines but Arabs who moved in. Especially after the Islamic take over of the area around 625 AD

So who has the right to the land. That’s the big question. The Jews seem to be the only surviving race to have the oldest living title in the area. Around 3400 years, compared to the Arabs who started moving in around 1400 years ago. That doesn’t always matter however. Possession seems to count the most.

I would encourage you to go back in history longer than the Zionist Movement that started with people like Herzel after the Dreyfus Affair.

Nice one @Wheels love me a bit of history especially the old stuff might thaw out old frosty with that

 

[Ray B]

Some might call that a massive sell off. You know what I call it? A massive buying opportunity.

Trying to TIME the market is a fool's errand. I recall the price of gold bouncing around $350/oz for a few years, during which I bought some. Then Russia had a financial crisis and sold a bunch- the price dropped to about $250. I held what I had and it gradually went back up. A few more world problems and deficit spending and the gold went continually higher. A few years back I sold a few oz and bought a fine Rigby. I don't follow the price of used guns in my custodianship- but I'd still rather have a double rifle than some metal.

 

[deewayne2003]

The current backlash against Trump will only get worse.

Current backlash.....lololololol

Seems like things have improved 13% since last time

Even CNN knows the truth!

 

[spike.t]

Well, not so easy, in fact.

The Jews left for 1800 years in the Diaspora.

They have no legal claim and "Israel" is technically only the name of a Tribe.......not a country.

To place a legal stamp on this:

The UN has recognized that the Palestinian people have a valid claim to their land, affirming their right to self-determination, national independence, and sovereignty in Palestine. This recognition has been expressed through numerous General Assembly resolutions, which have also acknowledged the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) as the legitimate representative of the Palestinian people.

Fk the UN.....waste of space

 

[Ray B]

"News" media report events as they WANT them to be. Since some media promotes the Left ideology and some promote the Right ideology. People have choices: A person can get their opinions from the Left or the Right OR they can pick&choose a combination of both. For example- Much video has been shown of violence in Portland, OR. this is presented by Right media. The Left media then shows peaceful settings in Portland, claiming the Right's media is false. the "truth" is both claims are correct- in the vicinity of the ICE facility it is nothing short of an insurrection. but 2 km down stream on the Willamette River and you find people playing frisbe on the waterfront. People want to believe the media that supports their political viewpoint.

 

[mdwest]

I just want to say that I don't think immigration agents should be sent to bang on doors and seize children.

You know, like this:
View attachment 721367I think the real reason we are having "No Kings" protests is because the President has the audacity to exploit the system created by Democrats.

I hear what youre saying about BORTAC being used to seize Elian Gonzales.. However that was a very different situation/case.. a Cuban father wanted his son back, and the US Citizen Great Uncle wouldnt give him back.. The mother had essentially abducted him (the father had primary custody) and fled Cuba for the US.. Ultimately the US courts denied Gonzales and his mothers petition for asylum and he was ordered back to Cuba.. The courts and US Marshals service attempted to get the family to release the child to the point of negotiating with them for a couple of days, and the family refused...

Having law enforcement take the child back was really the only option left in the Gonzalez case.. the courts made a decision (albeit a very unpopular one).. the choice to use a tactical team from the border patrol was likely a bad one.. but at the same time Im not so sure that had a pair of US Marshals showed up in sports coats and slacks and demanded that Gonzalez be turned over, that it wouldnt have ended with a barricaded felon situation and a requirement for a "hostage rescue" operation to follow.. ultimately a tactical team of some sort was very likely going to get involved.. the only real question was whose team (BORTAC? USMS SLED? FBI HRT?) and when..

Im no fan of Janet Reno or pretty much anyone that was part of the Clinton administration.. but in this particular case, Im not sure what the better play or better decision would have been or could have been..

FWIW Elian Gonzalez has been incredibly successful in life.. he is an industrial engineer that married his high school sweetheart.. he is also a very rigid communist, a Castro loyalist, and is an elected member of the Cuban parliament.. He also very much blames the US for his mothers decision to abduct him and take him to the US.. he believes that US embargos and sanctions created an economy in Cuba that left her (and other Cubans) in despair, and that the US essentially sells the Cuban people a false bill of goods claiming their life would be better without Communism, then the truth is their life would be better without the US involving itself in Cuban politics..

 

[Frostbite]

Fk the UN.....waste of space

Yes, when the facts hurt and you can't refute them........

Maybe all you have left is to try to pretend the source is not valid.

 

[John Wasmuth]

Some wise old guy once said “never wrestle with a pig, you both get dirty and the pig likes it”, or words to that effect…….

 

[Frostbite]

I hear what youre saying about BORTAC being used to seize Elian Gonzales.. However that was a very different situation/case.. a Cuban father wanted his son back, and the US Citizen Great Uncle wouldnt give him back.. The mother had essentially abducted him (the father had primary custody) and fled Cuba for the US.. Ultimately the US courts denied Gonzales and his mothers petition for asylum and he was ordered back to Cuba.. The courts and US Marshals service attempted to get the family to release the child to the point of negotiating with them for a couple of days, and the family refused...

Having law enforcement take the child back was really the only option left in the Gonzalez case.. the courts made a decision (albeit a very unpopular one).. the choice to use a tactical team from the border patrol was likely a bad one.. but at the same time Im not so sure that had a pair of US Marshals showed up in sports coats and slacks and demanded that Gonzalez be turned over, that it wouldnt have ended with a barricaded felon situation and a requirement for a "hostage rescue" operation to follow.. ultimately a tactical team of some sort was very likely going to get involved.. the only real question was whose team (BORTAC? USMS SLED? FBI HRT?) and when..

Im no fan of Janet Reno or pretty much anyone that was part of the Clinton administration.. but in this particular case, Im not sure what the better play or better decision would have been or could have been..

FWIW Elian Gonzalez has been incredibly successful in life.. he is an industrial engineer that married his high school sweetheart.. he is also a very rigid communist, a Castro loyalist, and is an elected member of the Cuban parliament.. He also very much blames the US for his mothers decision to abduct him and take him to the US.. he believes that US embargos and sanctions created an economy in Cuba that left her (and other Cubans) in despair, and that the US essentially sells the Cuban people a false bill of goods claiming their life would be better without Communism, then the truth is their life would be better without the US involving itself in Cuban politics..

Thanks for that complex and accurate response.

I had no idea what happened to Elian.

I agree that the recovery of Elian bears no comparison to the current bizarre and chaotic storm trooper behavior of ICE.

The root of the problem is that Trump has set quotas for arrests too high and the boys are just trying to meet quotas any way they can.

The photo, though, is strikingly well done.

I admire the guy's trigger discipline and just noticed for the first time that the weapon must be a 9mm.

Any of our army guys able to identify it?