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[farmer_john]

I wanted to be polite, and did not reply the way you describe. But yes, of course. You are spot on!

Brits: they go hunting with rifle in a bag, rifle pulled out when game is spotted.
Americans: carry pistols on CCW in condition 1.
Different culture, plus laws

I think it also is situationally dependant. In America 13% the population commits 80% the violent crime. Its very prudent to carry that way in a urban area.

That said when I am hunting. I keep the rifle loaded but unchambered when traveling to my hunting spot. And (esp if evening and low light) empty in the way out.

But depending who im with would determine my "weapons saftey" comfort level. I got some guys id be cool with checking my target while there still shootimg theirs 5ft over
Other people I dont want to even be in the room with if they are looking at one.

 

[Mtn_Infantry]

Sorry, I’m in a turkey coma. I hope you enjoyed your Thanksgiving with family. Well, I don’t want to derail this thread about our adventures in Mozambique 30 years ago but yes there where absolutely red flags although this was before the internet and I was a 31 year old first time African hunter. It was the cheapest buffalo, lion, and leopard hunt at the time. Suffice it to say, with the internet and great sites like AH, the hunt would have never happened but looking back I honestly enjoyed the adventure and will post a story about it someday.

I can appreciate applying leadership principles to the thought process, something I’ve done myself for more than half of my lifetime both in the marines then a career in law enforcement in command level positions, however a solo hunter new to this area is essentially only in charge of themselves but they can make a decision based on the information they have with boots on the ground, but only they can make that decision with vastly more information than which is being provided, not you or I, sitting in our home relaxing over a glass of good whiskey, stomach filled with turkey..

Personally, if I’m there, have maybe 50% already paid, and have a viable opportunity to still hunt buffalo, I would stay and make the best of it like the OP but IMO that is a subjective decision only the hunter can make based on realtime information and I don’t think that means they are a poor leader whatever they decide.

Happy Thanksgiving to you and your family as well.

I completely get and understand what you’re saying. Like you I know people often get blinded by how deep they are in a situation and keep bypassing red flags and exits they should get off. As a moderately experienced African hunter who’s been on more than 10 safaris across 5 different African countries it’s very easy for me to armchair quarterback this, hence the 5 obvious takeaways from the OP’s version of the events and additional questions. Hopefully with the availability of information on the web others will also be able to notice those 5 Takeaways and avoid the same cautionary tale. That said the OP’s been fairly silent since the post.

When you have some time, start a thread on your Moz Hunt. It sounds like an amazing adventure and one I likely would’ve considered, given the current events in Niassa this year wouldn’t have stopped me from hunting there if I was booked, and like I told my outfitter for next year’s hunt there; it won’t stop me.

 

[WAB]

I think it also is situationally dependant. In America 13% the population commits 80% the violent crime. Its very prudent to carry that way in a urban area.

That said when I am hunting. I keep the rifle loaded but unchambered when traveling to my hunting spot. And (esp if evening and low light) empty in the way out.

But depending who im with would determine my "weapons saftey" comfort level. I got some guys id be cool with checking my target while there still shootimg theirs 5ft over
Other people I dont want to even be in the room with if they are looking at one.

I’m sorry, but your math is way off. Well under 1% of people in the USA commit a violent crime.

 

[BJH65]

I’m sorry, but your math is way off. Well under 1% of people in the USA commit a violent crime.

Agreed, his stats are not accurate although I think he was trying to convey that blacks in the U.S. commit a disproportionate amount of violent crime while only comprising 12-13% of the population. It’s difficult to get updated data, seems the government doesn’t desire to track by race anymore? Of course that’s a topic for a different thread.

Violent Crimes by Race-2019

Violent-crime category​	White​	Black​	Other races​
Total violent-crime arrests	59.1%	37.9%	3.0%
Murder & non-negligent manslaughter	45.7%	51.3%	3.0%
Robbery	37.3%	60.7%	2.0%
Aggravated assault	64.5%	32.5%	3.0%
Rape	67.0%	29.5%	3.5%

 

[farmer_john]

I’m sorry, but your math is way off. Well under 1% of people in the USA commit a violent crime.

Ya.... live in your utopia my friend

Agreed, his stats are not accurate although I think he was trying to convey that blacks in the U.S. commit a disproportionate amount of violent crime while only comprising 12-13% of the population. It’s difficult to get updated data, seems the government doesn’t desire to track by race anymore? Of course that’s a topic for a different thread.

Violent Crimes by Race-2019

Violent-crime category​	White​	Black​	Other races​
Total violent-crime arrests	59.1%	37.9%	3.0%
Murder & non-negligent manslaughter	45.7%	51.3%	3.0%
Robbery	37.3%	60.7%	2.0%
Aggravated assault	64.5%	32.5%	3.0%
Rape	67.0%	29.5%	3.5%

If you break that down your stat sheet on a per capita basis. Those numbers go up. Alot.

 

[DieJager]

This thread is getting derailed.... again.. If you want to talk politics go to the thread that is called ..You guessed it politics.