Worried, need advice.....

Discussion in 'Hunting Africa' started by lpace, May 29, 2016.

  1. rinehart0050

    rinehart0050 GOLD SUPPORTER AH Legend

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    I used to worry about my upcoming safari a bunch. I've over thought and over planned this trip more than any other trip, and I've done lots of international travel. I've reached the point where I don't stress anymore. What happens will happen.

    Get ready for a fun safari! I know my family is ready and excited for our safari.
     
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  2. Divernhunter

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    You need to take a chill pill or six. If you take the have to have fast or even sort of fast results with you before you get to Africa and while there you will just have a bad time, get an ulcer or a stroke.
    I emailed my outfitter a month ago. They will get back to me. It is hunting season and if I or you were there would you want your hunt screwed up by the PH needing to take time from you to answer a worrisome person who will be there and then can get all the answers/questions/sites/advise/photos and such taken care of.
    My outfitter/PH will get back to me and take care of my questions when they can because tis will be my 2nd trip with them. I am not worried and besides mine is not until May 2017.

    You are getting to worked up before the trip and that will make the trip less enjoyable. I may be wrong but you seem to need to much attention. You are not the only client they have but I am sure you will come home happy if you just take it easy and enjoy the experience instead of trying to over script it.

    My 2 Cents
     

  3. ActionBob

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    @lpace Here is my suggestion. get a second job, then you can go back to hunt Africa more and you won't have time to worry! :D On my hunts I seem to be packing all night right before leaving for the airport... Wishing I ahd practiced shooting more and remembering what I forgot to do... I don't recall ever worrying to much about what the PH was doing.

    Seriously, the comments about all the great cell coverage can be true, but in some cases it is not. I was in Zimbabwe were there was a 2x4 nailed between two trees with two nails to set the phone on in the one spot that would get enough service to get text. We were in that camp for 13 days. There was no way he was getting back to anyone on email during that time.
     
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  4. Dragan N.

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    I would guess that some of these PHs/outfitters are on "Indian time". Replying a day or two later isn't a big deal. It is also a feast and famine business during hunting season they might be booked with clients and out in the bush hunting and thus have very little time or even access to the internet/emails. Perhaps only the most urgent ones are awnsered immediately. Less urgent ones later on. Yet when it is off season and they have lots of/ more time on their hands they might reply/check their emails every hour...
     

  5. Philip Glass

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    Keep in mind most of them use Whats App to make wifi international phone calls so I suggest trying that. Call instead of email if you can. It has worked for me.
    Philip
     
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  6. BRICKBURN

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    If it is Rugby season, I expect this kind of delay from the guys operating out a home concession in RSA. :)
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    Namibian Cell phone station
    "Fipsy" keeping the cell phones warm, literally. The table in the courtyard was the only place in the farm house where a reflected signal was found.

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    Where is the signal? Attempting to call the recovery team in Namibia.
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    In TMS's concession Mozambique it was a ten minute drive to the top of a local Inselberg to get signal. Zero signal in camp and throughout most of the concession.
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  7. lpace

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    Whats App is the ticket. We got hooked up with that and the barrier to communication is removed. :)
     
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  8. caddman

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    Good work Brickburn!
    I agree with BWH? PH's ( and many other groups) are rarely email or social media wizards. Get used to it, frustrating as it can be. Communication is such a wonderful thing.
     

  9. CAustin

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    Good work Wayne!
     

  10. CAustin

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    Oh well I guess this guy had some sort of coverage ......cell.....Internet or something to respond. What's App?
    Hope he was able to put your concerns to rest and answer your questions.
    Have a great hunt and share some pictures with us.
     

  11. BRICKBURN

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    :A Bulb::D Cheers:
     
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  12. siml

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    Whatsapp, is a great way to keep in contact, requires a lot less signal than trying to download emails in the bush.
     
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  13. Powdermaker

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    I met Mike Birch this past January, at the Africa Hunting Show in Saskatoon. I was impressed and their outfit made my short list. His nephew was also at the booth and stated that they have 75% client return rate, so I think you will have a good hunt. Please write a hunting report!
     

  14. lpace

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    Will do :)
     

  15. lpace

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    I'm home and it would appear that my worry prior to leaving was not without justification. My experience in South Africa, well let me put it this way - when I left Namibia last year all I could think of was getting back to Africa. When I left the North Cape last month I didn't care if I ever went back! About the only good thing I can think of to say about the North Cape part of my South Africa hunt was the diversity of species. I saw several animals that I have never seen before, very cool. On the other hand, here is what I found in the North Cape:

    Accommodations were sub standard. Non reliable power and water (often in the main lodge there was no hot water in the bathroom, not just no hot water, NO WATER at all). Inadequate space to put stuff in the bungalow. All the toilet seats didn't fit the toilets and were broken (handling a toilet seat to get it back together is no high of my list of desirable activities). The WiFi quota ran out after only a handful of days and we didn't stream video per direction (this was a significant issue as it was my wife's connection to the world and she loathed her time in the North Cape so WiFi was her escape). The food was OK, the the cook was just that, a cook - not a chef. She cooked the meals because she was compelled to do so.

    Service was sub standard. In talking to the cook, my wife had some information passed along about a previous customers list of desired food. When she asked the cook 'what did my husband write', the cook said "I don't know, I haven't read it yet". This was several days into the hunt. My wife (a paying customer) would go to the main lodge daily after we had left to hunt, and EVERY DAY had to ask for a place setting and for coffee. On several occasions she had to make her own coffee. One would think that sort of thing would be figured out after a week of the very same request! The laundry was not completed on a timely basis and the clothes were often still damp. When we were introduced to the outfitter and his family we exchanged names and they (the outfitter and his family) promptly returned to speaking Afrikaans. My wife and I exchanged a glance an a shrug. It was uncomfortable to say the least. The outfitter never once asked how my hunt was going!

    Hunting was sub standard. In their defense, the weather for the first few days was bad. Cold and windy. African critters don't like the cold or the wind. On the other hand, there were two (2, a pair) of blinds to hunt out of (I'm a bow hunter). The 'better' of the two blinds had been hunted a sufficient amount that the animals would not come in until after dark (I specifically selected the dates around the dark of the moon to avoid this). I took two animals in 7 days, a nice duiker and an also ran springbuck. When the springbuck came in, I was so ecstatic at for the opportunity I jumped on it. Oop, I stand corrected, there were three blinds. The springbuck was taken out of a tree stand that was recently constructed. Nice hide. There had been NO temporary blinds placed prior to my arrival. At one point my PH verbalized that he didn't know why other PH's had not put up pop-up blinds where we did (in the course of the hunt, not exactly the best time to do so - we never even got a shot out of the blinds we put up) when they were hunting with the previous clients, also bow hunters. A reasonable question. However, the more poignant question in my mind to my PH was 'why didn't you put up blinds in preparation for my arrival, regardless of what other PH's did or didn't do?' My PH was a nice guy, quite pleasant actually. However, he read a LOT while on stand. I appreciate sitting in a blind can be boring, but being vigilant while on stand in a PH's job!

    The animals that were not virtually impossible to hunt were not even wild. Several of the species were hand fed daily (cape buffalo, water buck, red lechwe - the lone sable, singular, was not hand fed daily, but he was not wild either). The tsessebe were not exactly wild, but not exactly tame either. Not sufficiently wild be be considered a challenge. They came to the alfalfa every day. Harvesting one of these animals would not, in my estimation, be considered a hunt. A striking contrast in animal behavior between the wild (crazy wild) and the virtually tame critters. Trophy quality, C-.

    To say the least, the North Cape lodge, in my estimation, is no more a $400/day facility than fly to the moon. I will never, ever go back there!

    Off to the East Cape. This was a totally different experience. The facilities were excellent. The service was excellent. The hospitality was excellent. The food was excellent. A truly wonderful place to be. My wife and I enjoyed our time there very much, my wife in particular. In retrospect, I wish that we had spent a LOT more time in the East Cape. Some of the animals here were 'normal'. For example, the springbuck and kudu were wild animals. They were huntable, but attention to wind direction, movement, blind placement, noise, etc. had to be in order to harvest one of them. What I would consider 'normal'. A few species here were not wild, but what I would consider 'planted'. For example, if the zebra numbers are low - buy a few more - like stocking a pond with fish. Again, harvesting one of these animals would not, in my estimation, be considered hunting. I would go back to the East Cape facility (called the Royal Karoo) again but not until hunting here can be arranged without any involvement with Hunt the Sun!

    Off to Namibia. Again a wonderful experience. Accommodations, food, service - excellent. Trophy quality and animal density, exceptional. My PH had prepared for my arrival well in advance. Blinds, quite a few of them, were located at scouted water holes. My PH never, ever, not even for one minute, read while on stand. When action slowed down to an unacceptable level he (my PH) would say 'we are wasting precious time' so we would relocate to a different stand. The huntable species there are truly wild (springbuck and blesbok can not be hunted as their populations are not stabilized). ANY of the huntable species there can be hunted with a clear conscience. There was not 'baiting' done in Namibia, at least no alfalfa, oranges or pellets were used. For some reason I find a difference in hunting over water/salt and hunting over a pile of alfalfa and oranges.

    While in Namibla I was able to harvest 25 animals on a 10 day hunt. This being done in spite of a full moon and some days with unfavorable weather conditions (cold and wind). Lord only knows what would have happened if the timing had been better with respect to the moon... I LOVED every minute of my time in Namibia and have every intention of returning. Similar to my experience there last year, after leaving there all I can think of is going back to Africa!

    In addition to the cull animals taken in Namibia, I got a few non culls. Pics attached.

    Impala.jpg Impala 2.jpg Warthog.jpg DSCN0288.jpg
     
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  16. Clayton

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    Sorry for the bad experience. But it was only part of your hunt and sounds like you recovered to get some nice trophies. Glad it wasn't all bad.
     

  17. PHOENIX PHIL

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    @lpace...... well that would be a detailed report. Sorry the first half of your hunt did not go well, but glad the second half was a much better experience!
     

  18. lpace

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    I'm glad the second half of the hunt was a better experience as well. Yeah, there is some detail in that report.... :A Blink:
     
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  19. lpace

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    Addendum.... I forgot - my wife did have a guide (guide is appropriate as my wife does not hunt) in the North Cape that she enjoyed quite well. He earned a handsome tip from her!
     

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    Nice warthog, congrats!
     
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