Why Buy a SxS

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About 10 years ago I bought my first OU shotgun, a Browning CXS 12 ga. Since then I have added a CXS 20 ga and a Citori Ultra XS 28 ga. Now I have the itch to buy another shotgun, am thinking about buying a SxS. It would be mainly for clays and maybe an occasional hunting trip. Thinking either another 12 ga, maybe a 16 ga, or maybe even a 410.

Why should I consider a SxS, are there any benefits of a SxS over an OU? Any recommendations for a budget friendly gun option?
 
I recently returned to using a side by side after 20 years of shooting over and unders. It's lighter to carry when hunting, faster handling and I prefer how it looks compared to an OU. I would consider an AYA (either a No.2 sidelock or a No.4 boxlock); they are well made guns and very reliable.
 
About 10 years ago I bought my first OU shotgun, a Browning CXS 12 ga. Since then I have added a CXS 20 ga and a Citori Ultra XS 28 ga. Now I have the itch to buy another shotgun, am thinking about buying a SxS. It would be mainly for clays and maybe an occasional hunting trip. Thinking either another 12 ga, maybe a 16 ga, or maybe even a 410.

Why should I consider a SxS, are there any benefits of a SxS over an OU? Any recommendations for a budget friendly gun option?

It depends on the primary hunting you plan on doing with it. I like the "Sweet" sixteen, but if you aren't reloading for it and shooting a lot of clays it can get expensive in a hurry. For small game, quail, and grouse the 410 or 28 gauge would be a good choice for the woods. For waterfowl and turkeys i would recommend a 20 gauge or better a 12 gauge with 3" or 3-1/2" chambers since you are already shooting 12 gauges.

I recently returned to using a side by side after 20 years of shooting over and unders. It's lighter to carry when hunting, faster handling and I prefer how it looks compared to an OU. I would consider an AYA (either a No.2 sidelock or a No.4 boxlock); they are well made guns and very reliable.

I prefer the s x s to o/u for easier reloading when in a hurry. Gauge to gauge, I don't know about s x s being lighter than o/u; some s x s are equal to, just as heavy, or just as light as o/u.
 
My first shotgun was a youth model Stoeger 20 gauge SxS. At first, I couldn't hit the broad side of a barn with it until suddenly, everything clicked. I used it for years after that a rarely missed quail and dove with it. You can't shoot O/U and SxS the same way. I think the SxS has declined partly because people naturally shoot O/Us better. One theory is that most American's start off as riflemen and O/Us fit more like rifles so we are used to that feel more, even if you aren't aiming as you would a rifle. I realize this following may be controversial.

Dangerous game hunting with a vintage double rifle is what brought me back to the SxS shotgun. Realistically, I don't think SxS guns have many advantages over an O/U. The first point below is usually true in general. The others are as well, but that depends on the proficiency of the shooter.

1. They are typically lighter than O/Us.

2. SxS actions break open at a shallower angle than O/Us, theoretically allowing for faster reloading.

3. SxS handle like an exotic sports car. They are smooth, fast, and responsive to the shooter when the shooter moves the barrels first, rather than the stock. As with dangerous game, moving the barrels towards the target BEFORE moving the stock to shoulder results in a natural and smooth swing that puts you in target faster than setting the stock in the shoulder and moving the gun to the target. Stock dimensions play are part here as well, but there are very few deep pistol grip SxS shotguns compared to O/Us. The English straight grip probably does best to force the shooter to move the barrels first due to lack of grip purchase on the stock.

4. They balance better. Though infrequent, SxS guns that are heavier than a O/U may still feel lighter due to the balancing point (center of gravity). A heavy SxS will still feel lively and responsive in the shooter's hands.

5. I have heard and read many articles where people say the advantage of the O/U is a single sighting plane. I think that's hogwash. I have never seen a firearm with anything but a single sighting plane. You don't sight a shotgun anyway so it shouldn't matter even if there were two sighting planes. The O/U stacked barrels allow for more peripheral vision but that is sometimes good and sometimes bad. You don't want you eyes to be distracted from the target. I think it's a wash between the two. Once you get used to seeing a target with a SxS and having less in your periphery, it doesn't affect your ability to track.

6. The are romantic. They ooze nostalgia and the lines of a SxS are simply beautiful. You may shoot an O/U better, but the SxS will give you more emotional satisfaction.

As far as budget friendly guns go, the answer is always "it depends." If your budget allows for a $10,000+ gun, go for it. If it's closer to $200, I'd save my money some more. If it's somewhere in between, you can pick up some great Lefever, Steven's, Cogswell & Harrison, L.C. Smith, Beretta, and other names for $2,500-$6,000 depending on gauge and condition.
 
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Johnny Carter did a lot of videos on Youtube on sxs vs o/u and on specifics of sxs shotguns. He is a british gunsmith and shotgun enthusiast. If you might want to look him up he goes by "TGS Outdoors".
I enjoy his videos on guns, hunting and clay shooting.
He does a good job for the public image of hunting in GB, I think.
 
For target shooting I see no advantage to. using a SXS gun. For upland shooting - certainly!
 
I dont know that I NEED a quality SxS... I have quality O/U and semi guns that are suitable for pretty much anything I'd ever want to hunt with a shotgun and every clays game I'd ever want to play...

but... I definitely WANT one... specifically I've been eyeballing a few light 20 options out there.. Im too much of a cheapskate to just go buy something that I know I dont really need... but.. if I happen to find a really good deal on something I like, a SxS shotgun will likely be my next firearm purchase..
 
No one ever suffered from having a first class ticket. Go get the gun you want and you will forget the price quite quickly. Enjoy!
 
My first shotgun was a youth model Stoeger 20 gauge SxS. At first, I couldn't hit the broad side of a barn with it until suddenly, everything clicked. I used it for years after that a rarely missed quail and dove with it. You can't shoot O/U and SxS the same way. I think the SxS has declined partly because people naturally shoot O/Us better. One theory is that most American's start off as riflemen and O/Us fit more like rifles so we are used to that feel more, even if you aren't aiming as you would a rifle. I realize this following may be controversial.

Dangerous game hunting with a vintage double rifle is what brought me back to the SxS shotgun. Realistically, I don't think SxS guns have many advantages over an O/U. The first point below is usually true in general. The others are as well, but that depends on the proficiency of the shooter.

1. They are typically lighter than O/Us.

2. SxS actions break open at a shallower angle than O/Us, theoretically allowing for faster reloading.

3. SxS handle like an exotic sports car. They are smooth, fast, and responsive to the shooter when the shooter moves the barrels first, rather than the stock. As with dangerous game, moving the barrels towards the target BEFORE moving the stock to shoulder results in a natural and smooth swing that puts you in target faster than setting the stock in the shoulder and moving the gun to the target. Stock dimensions play are part here as well, but there are very few deep pistol grip SxS shotguns compared to O/Us. The English straight grip probably does best to force the shooter to move the barrels first due to lack of grip purchase on the stock.

4. They balance better. Though infrequent, SxS guns that are heavier than a O/U may still feel lighter due to the balancing point (center of gravity). A heavy SxS will still feel lively and responsive in the shooter's hands.

5. I have heard and read many articles where people say the advantage of the O/U is a single sighting plane. I think that's hogwash. I have never seen a firearm with anything but a single sighting plane. You don't sight a shotgun anyway so it shouldn't matter even if there were two sighting planes. The O/U stacked barrels allow for more peripheral vision but that is sometimes good and sometimes bad. You don't want you eyes to be distracted from the target. I think it's a wash between the two. Once you get used to seeing a target with a SxS and having less in your periphery, it doesn't affect your ability to track.

6. The are romantic. They ooze nostalgia and the lines of a SxS are simply beautiful. You may shoot an O/U better, but the SxS will give you more emotional satisfaction.
allows for a $10,000+ gun, go for it. If it's closer to $200, I'd save my money some more. If it's somewhere in between, you can pick up some great Lefever, Steven's, Cogswell & Harrison, L.C. Smith, Beretta, and other names for $2,500-$6,000 depending on gauge and condition.
I agree with everything you said except the single sight plane. You are right there also, but I seem to have lost my dominate eye? Some say I started shooting off the tip of the barrels. I have no problem shooting with one eye closed, but shooting with both eyes open is not an option now. I do prefer the looks and feel of a SxS.
 
I use a O/U for clays as that seems to be the best for that sport, I still shoot close to 10K+ per year and a SxS would be worn out I think. I use a SxS for upland hunting, because I want to. For high volume dove shooting in Argentina I took a 20 gauge A400.
 
Bottom line is they are just Fing cool! I will be using one for waterfowl this weekend.
 
You’re in luck. There happens to be a gorgeous classic American Parker SxS for sale in these very classifieds. At a ridiculously low price. :cool:
 
I agree with everything you said except the single sight plane. You are right there also, but I seem to have lost my dominate eye? Some say I started shooting off the tip of the barrels. I have no problem shooting with one eye closed, but shooting with both eyes open is not an option now. I do prefer the looks and feel of a SxS.
Due to diabetes I have this same issue. I am trying to shoot left handed since my dominant eye is my left ey now. Feels wierd but shooting right/ right for 50 years and trying to relearn to shoot is challenging.
 
Umm… because it goes with my costume ?
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In all seriousness, I just find myself to shoot much more instinctively & quickly with a side by side.
 
I don't hunt with anything that doesn't have three shot capacity. Too many times I've seen geese soak up three rounds of 1 1/8 oz steel BBs. Rarely (very rarely) I may get a third shot at uplands. Three years ago I shot a pheasant triple and should have bagged a Hun triple last fall. That's a once in a lifetime thing! Unfortunately, I pulled the third shot a bit to avoid blowing up a bird that got confused and flew back at me. Got him later. Personally I don't swing "lively" light guns well. I don't shoot my Citori as well as the heavier old A5 magnum but the fit is different. Has nothing to do with number of barrels. But I don't shoot the Citori badly. In my younger years I borrowed a Stevens SxS and shot it quite poorly. But I didn't know how to shoot back then anyway.

After today I might need to rethink my 3-shot logic. :D Forgot to change the A5 magnum to 3" guts and it wouldn't eject. So I was stuck shooting single shot. Bagged five geese in as many shots (with one miss). Seems when I know I've only got one round in the gun, I make it count.
 
I have a CZ ringneck 12ga. That I would sell. Shot very little. Let me know if you’re interested. Send a pm with your contact info, cell or email and I’ll get some pictures to you.
 

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