Okay. Weatherby's 378 came out in 1953 and 460 in 1957. 458 Win in 1956 and 416 Rem 1989. Not sure I see a significant connection. Kynoch didn't fold up till 1970 and 458 Lott made its appearance the following year. Perhaps a connection there? Not sure who was loading Lott ammo. 458 Win was almost an instant flop due to poor powder in their factory loads initially. Their cartridges didn't agree with African climate. Some say 458 Win has never recovered from that bad start. According to my PH and lodge operator, for whatever reason the 416 Rem has never been popular in Africa. Perhaps this has more to do with rifle design than cartridge?
Of course you don’t see a connection . . . Several cartridges were introduced at nearly the same time. Certain cartridges are still popular today and the Weatherby cartridges largely failed. The success and failure had nothing to do with nostalgia. Weatherby was very popular at one time. Weatherby cartridges developed a reputation for excessive kick, bullet failures, and wounded animals as a result that unfortunately continues today even though bullet technology has caught up. They are were also largely limited to Weatherby rifles. The 458 win and 416 Remington are still commonly used, both chambered in model 70. 458 win much more common though due to many more rifles chambered in it. I’ve hunted with PHs that have them but CZs in 416 Rigby outnumber model 70s in 416 Remington from my observations. I’d assume that had more to do with numbers of CZs imported and ease of import than a caliber or rifle preference.
Made for the US market though. Weatherby was a California company.
Makes you wonder why anyone would post it for the World to see?
Yes maybe the fly on the wall reading your reply to the hunt would have been something like “Ohoooo here we go”
.416 Rigby unless the shot is inside of 40 yards - then it’s a toss up to me.
First, each shot was lethal. Remember that the angle of the camera is not the angle of the shooter. When I shoot solids in the body, I shoot for the offside shoulder, which at this buffs angle, means I had to put the bullet in the gut to break the off shoulder. So many folks that have never done this type of hunting have comments to make. I have killed several truck loads of African animals with the 600 NE 110 Cordite equivalent load, including several buffalo. I get tired of carrying a 15 lb rifle, but the weight of the rifle off sets the felt recoil. Buffalo are weird......of my 40 or so cape buff, most have died easily with good placement. This one was very different.
Of the several cape buff I've shot with the 600 NE, this is the only one that did not fall down dead.
So, Ive killed at least 40 Cape Buffalo, with all sorts of calibers and rifles. Do not tell me what I'd be better served with, if you have not been there and done that several times. I posted this video because of the anomaly of the bull not falling down dead with one shot. When I shoot solids into the body, I shoot to break the off shoulder, which at this bulls angle (not the camera mans angle, but the shooters angle) meant I had to gut shoot him, which I did and which did break his off shoulder, twice. He also had a hole through his heart and two holes through both lungs. Still, he acted the way he did.
Um he had two holes through both lungs, one hole through his heart and two holes through his off shoulder. The angle of the camera, is not the angle of the shooter. You should know that if you are going to comment. I posted this video, not because anything about it was impressive except the animals toughness. I have killed many animals with the 600 NE, including several more cape buffalo. This one did not want to die.
He had two holes through both lungs, one hole through his heart and two holes through the off shoulder. The camera angle is not the shooters angle. In order to break his off shoulder at his angle, I had to gut shoot him. He was quartering away from me.
