Remington rolling block #1

[Boone66]

Not having very good luck getting through to them.

+12089463917 this is the number I have

 

[F. Vaccaro]

A .50-70 with real black powder is a lot of fun!

 

[fourfive8]

Lots of posts in this thread on the Rolling Block rifle, but no follow up with loads nor range reports??? I’ve only had one, a #1 Rem contract 1879 Argentine in 43 Spanish with excellent bore. As with many of these old BPCR guns, seems most need a lot of load development, not the least of which is finding or casting the right bullet. Until I did that, and under the right lighting, I could watch the bullet fly down range then swerve off in a random direction between 100 yard 200 yard line. Once best load and correct bullet found, mine was a very good/accurate shooter.

 

[Rafiki]

Lots of posts in this thread on the Rolling Block rifle, but no follow up with loads nor range reports??? I’ve only had one, a #1 Rem contract 1879 Argentine in 43 Spanish with excellent bore. As with many of these old BPCR guns, seems most need a lot of load development, not the least of which is finding or casting the right bullet. Until I did that, and under the right lighting, I could watch the bullet fly down range then swerve off in a random direction between 100 yard 200 yard line. Once best load and correct bullet found, mine was a very good/accurate shooter.

Uh, was that the PO's question or part of it? .... but, I shoot 500gr paper patch out of my 45-90 pushed by a full case of Blackhorn 209. Can't remember the specifics but velocity is about 1500fps and very accurate,

 

[fourfive8]

Just curious if any progress or decisions have been made about the potential chambering/rebarrel of the two #1s re: the OP. If any progress, then expecting follow up and possibly some load data or range report. There are quite a few old rolling blocks out there with sewer pipe bores that provide great potential for chambering/rebarrel for all manner of cartridges depending on hammer clearance geometry.

The safety caveat is not so much cartridge length related but certainly action strength related. IMO, best to stay conservative with loads/pressures. I think an original rolling block strength lies somewhere north of the trapdoor but not close to modern falling blocks.

 

[F. Vaccaro]

Let's never forget these actions were designed when black powder was the propellent, & not push it.

 

[F. Vaccaro]

As fourfive8 says be very careful with pressure. These rifles were designed when black powder was all that was available. Don't push it. I've shot a friends rolling block in .50-70 & black powder, it was a lot of fun, pretty powerful too.

 

[Rafiki]

As fourfive8 says be very careful with pressure. These rifles were designed when black powder was all that was available. Don't push it. I've shot a friends rolling block in .50-70 & black powder, it was a lot of fun, pretty powerful too.

Yes the early ones were black powder but Rolling Blocks were made and used by military all over the world well into the 1900's; they used smokeless. It all depends on which version you have. That action is one of the strongest ever concieved but you do need to have some knowledge of the age of any particular Rollinblock before pushing the limits.

 

[DaddyFlip]

@1:66 twiste@d since you listed a series of 45 caliber carts, the length is limited by what case can be inserted with the inline hammer cocked. In it's typical configuration, it's the 45-90 and 50-90, though there are several hammer configurations to be found that may allow a longer case. I have a rebarreled military action in 45-70 and I am happy with it. IMO, there's no reason to go longer with the Rolling Block. You could go more esoteric and awesome with a 44-77 or 40-90, both of which are magnificent and authentic chamberings, but you must be a dedicated brass hound and reloader to make them viable. Good luck!

PS... the Rolling Block action is not "one of the strongest ever conceived"; not sure where that opinion came from.

 

[Rafiki]

@1:66 twiste@d since you listed a series of 45 caliber carts, the length is limited by what case can be inserted with the inline hammer cocked. In it's typical configuration, it's the 45-90 and 50-90, though there are several hammer configurations to be found that may allow a longer case. I have a rebarreled military action in 45-70 and I am happy with it. IMO, there's no reason to go longer with the Rolling Block. You could go more esoteric and awesome with a 44-77 or 40-90, both of which are magnificent and authentic chamberings, but you must be a dedicated brass hound and reloader to make them viable. Good luck!

PS... the Rolling Block action is not "one of the strongest ever conceived"; not sure where that opinion came from.

I suppose that was a little strong; however, irrespective of the metallurgical considerations, mechanically it is a very strong design.

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