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[KJE81]

hes even been repeating some Peter Thiel thoughts lately on whether or not the US really wants the dollar to the the global reserve currency.. I dont necessarily dislike Vance.. and I'll take him every day and twice on Sundays if my choice is Vance vs Newsome, Harris, AOC, etc..

but..

If people think Trump is the boogeyman.. they better look out for Vance... he's far more isolationist than Trump.. he just doesnt send nearly as many mean tweets..

Trumps second administration does not strike me as an isolationist, far from it. However it did really sounded like he would be an isolationist when he ran though, I bet their are a lot of countries in the world who wished he would have stayed true to those statements instead.

 

[Altitude sickness]

hes even been repeating some Peter Thiel thoughts lately on whether or not the US really wants the dollar to the the global reserve currency.. I dont necessarily dislike Vance.. and I'll take him every day and twice on Sundays if my choice is Vance vs Newsome, Harris, AOC, etc..

but..

If people think Trump is the boogeyman.. they better look out for Vance... he's far more isolationist than Trump.. he just doesnt send nearly as many mean tweets..

Im struggling to understand why Vance would want to decouple from the Petrodollar and the U.S. Reserve Currency.

Yes, there are some eventual small benefits to no longer being a world superpower; the monumental costs of funding world security, humanitarian aid, defending our
ideals, funding domestic healthcare, funding social security and all the other government programs. EPA, CDC, the Military etc etc.

No Navy ensuring open sea lanes. Which we now take for granted.

Our economy would collapse. And with it much of the current tax revenue the State and Federal Governments live off.

It’s all funded by affordable borrowing and paying on existing debt. Because the U.S. is now seen as the safe haven for investment.

If the U.S. Dollar is no longer the Reserve Currency. No more loans. And most of our debt would be called in immediately. Then when we no longer have the strongest military, every Tinpot dictator would feel free to start strong arming us.

We would then become another empire that used to be. This is not hyperbole.

Commonwealths and territories like Guam, Puerto Rico, would be taken over by the next superpower. That may be one of the small advantages Vance is considering. Who knows.

 

[RLD]

Fun at the State Fair!

From ZeroHedge:

Police Attacked During Massive "Teen Brawl" At Wisconsin State Fair​

BY TYLER DURDEN
MONDAY, AUG 17, 2026 - 08:20 PM
The establishment media commonly uses strategic phrases to hide or omit the truth behind certain uncomfortable situations. Since the BLM era, journalists cannot simply describe a violent mob as a "black mob", even if that description is generally true. Today, one must say the words "teen brawl" in order to avoid any implications of race.

It's a very similar tactic to those used by the media in the UK whenever a migrant (or child of migrants) commits a brutal crime - Simply call the suspect a "London Man" or a "Liverpool Man" or a "Glasgow Man" and hope no one asks questions.

In the US, whenever the media uses the words "teen brawl", it's easy to conclude who was involved. The fatigue is real.





Over the weekend the Wisconsin State Fair in West Allis (a suburb of Milwaukee) experienced yet another of these seemingly spontaneous outbreaks of chaos when a horde of "teens" flooded into the event and began randomly attacking anyone nearby. It should be noted that even the witnesses are reticent to admit who the culprits were, choosing their words carefully.

Witness accounts report that law enforcement officers on scene were also targeted, with multiple police suffering injuries. Dispatch audio indicates chaotic moments near the rides. "They need some help at Spin City. Send anybody extra you have," one police officer could be heard saying.



Local news reports show police attempting to break up the fights, but the assailants swarm into the fairground crowds to avoid arrest. Roving mob fights involving black "youths" are common at state fairs across the region every year. The Minnesota State Fair reported similar incidents last year and rumors suggest a "bigger brawl" is likely this year.


Why start brutal fights at the state fair? Maybe because the whole point is to ruin everyone else's day. Maybe the point is simply to create chaos and bask in the violence and misery. What is clear is that events that used to be safe for families are being turned into open melees just so urban demographics can revel in their own lack of impulse control.

Thank God I've got a reputable journalist like Tyler Durden to keep me enlightened with high quality race baiting articles.

 

[RLD]

Trumps second administration does not strike me as an isolationist, far from it. However it did really sounded like he would be an isolationist when he ran though, I bet their are a lot of countries in the world who wished he would have stayed true to those statements instead.

It's kind of a through the looking glass foreign policy. Piss on your long term friends that you actually have goals in common with, and praise people like Un, Putin and Orban.

He also seems to have lost any influence he might have had over Israel.

Challenging time for Trump.

 

[Brent in Az]

UK-istan

 

[rookhawk]

Thank God I've got a reputable journalist like Tyler Durden to keep me enlightened with high quality race baiting articles.

Zero Hedge is a pretty well regarded news site and certainly it isn't racist. It's a bunch of Quant guys in the Chicago CME.

The challenges in Chicago and Milwaukee are not African immigrants or first/second generation Africans. The data shows that to be irrefutably the case when we look at crime, poverty, relationship durations, paternity claims, etc.

It's a very specific violent crime problem: African-American males, age 15-28. That single demographic isn't 13% of the population committing 58% of the violent crime, its approximately <1.5% of the population committing HALF the violent crime. Not African immigrants or their children, just multi-generational citizen African-American males specifically.

Chicago is estimated to have roughly 400,000 gang members alone. Roughly half of them are African-American males in the 15-28 "hot zone" for violent crime. Milwaukee per capita is nearly as bad from a crime perspective.

All I know is we can't go to the State Fair any longer. We couldn't go to the Magnificent Mile shopping district in Chicago beginning about ten years ago. We can't ride the NYC subway. We can't go to an armed services academy admissions briefing at the Minneapolis Public Library. There are a lot of places we can't go anymore.

 

[RLD]

Zero Hedge is a pretty well regarded news site and certainly it isn't racist. It's a bunch of Quant guys in the Chicago CME.

The challenges in Chicago and Milwaukee are not African immigrants or first/second generation Africans. The data shows that to be irrefutably the case when we look at crime, poverty, relationship durations, paternity claims, etc.

It's a very specific violent crime problem: African-American males, age 15-28. That single demographic isn't 13% of the population committing 58% of the violent crime, its approximately <1.5% of the population committing HALF the violent crime. Not African immigrants or their children, just multi-generational citizen African-American males specifically.

Chicago is estimated to have roughly 400,000 gang members alone. Roughly half of them are African-American males in the 15-28 "hot zone" for violent crime. Milwaukee per capita is nearly as bad from a crime perspective.

All I know is we can't go to the State Fair any longer. We couldn't go to the Magnificent Mile shopping district in Chicago beginning about ten years ago. We can't ride the NYC subway. We can't go to an armed services academy admissions briefing at the Minneapolis Public Library. There are a lot of places we can't go anymore.

I don' t make claims about Zero Hedge, but Tyler Durden? What is his (their?) journalistic background?

And that article was clearly dog whistle race baiting, no matter who published it. There are people who profit from generating race based fear. He seems to be one of them.

At least you do us the courtesy of referring to the real elements in the issue (poverty, environment, etc). Tyler simply wants to make people afraid of blacks.

My wife shops in Chicago, and I ride the NYC subway no problem. I have lots of friends who literally ride the NYC subway every day to work and home and are plenty safe.

The very specific violent crime problem does not best correlate with race, it correlates best with poverty. "Tyler" appears to want to ignore the real origins of the crime problem and simply complain about blacks.

And yes I am fully aware Tyler is a pseudonym.

 

[rookhawk]

I don' t make claims about Zero Hedge, but Tyler Durden? What is his (their?) journalistic background?

And that article was clearly dog whistle race baiting, no matter who published it. There are people who profit from generating race based fear. He seems to be one of them.

At least you do us the courtesy of referring to the real elements in the issue (poverty, environment, etc). Tyler simply wants to make people afraid of blacks.

My wife shops in Chicago, and I ride the NYC subway no problem. I have lots of friends who literally ride the NYC subway every day to work and home and are plenty safe.

The very specific violent crime problem does not best correlate with race, it correlates best with poverty. "Tyler" appears to want to ignore the real origins of the crime problem and simply complain about blacks.

And yes I am fully aware Tyler is a pseudonym.

At best, he has an issue with African-American urban males age 15-28, it seems to be what he reports. I don't hear much about African immigrants, suburbanites, etc. He seems to walk the same streets I do and has the same experiences in Chicago. Not fun. Also, not normal, none of this stuff was an issue 20 years ago.

 

[RLD]

At best, he has an issue with African-American urban males age 15-28, it seems to be what he reports. I don't hear much about African immigrants, suburbanites, etc. He seems to walk the same streets I do and has the same experiences in Chicago. Not fun. Also, not normal, none of this stuff was an issue 20 years ago.

Is that what I should read when he uses the term "black mob"?

 

[rookhawk]

Is that what I should read when he uses the term "black mob"?

Was it a mob? Was it Asian, Hispanic, or white? That’s the very essence of his article. We now use obfuscation and euphemism to protect feelings and ignore real societal problems. Since the descriptors are your sticking point rather than the troubling video footage, he may be on to something.

 

[RLD]

Was it a mob? Was it Asian, Hispanic, or white? That’s the very essence of his article. We now use obfuscation and euphemism to protect feelings and ignore real societal problems. Since the descriptors are your sticking point rather than the troubling video footage, he may be on to something.

Violent crime among all communities moves up and down.

The question is whether the term is useful in understanding the problem or is being used for some other purpose.

Violence in America follows poverty, not race. The author in this case wants people to associate violent crimes with "black" people rather than poor people. The real problem behind violence is poverty, the people who want to associate it with race are the people trying to hide (not ignore) real societal problems.

I was at the Sutton Fair a couple of weekends ago and saw a fight in the beer tent. It was white guys. Is their race really relevant? It didn't even make the local paper. I guess that was just part of a pro-white cover up?

The fact that people buy into the fear and race hate they are selling proves their is a market for that garbage. Because you sure can't call what he wrote journalism.

He has a racist, and perhaps xenophobic, agenda he is advancing. The First Amendment gives him an opportunity to publish that kind of stuff. It doesn't mean people with a brain have to take it seriously.

 

[Mark A Ouellette]

Violent crime among all communities moves up and down.

The question is whether the term is useful in understanding the problem or is being used for some other purpose.

Violence in America follows poverty, not race. The author in this case wants people to associate violent crimes with "black" people rather than poor people. The real problem behind violence is poverty, the people who want to associate it with race are the people trying to hide (not ignore) real societal problems.

I was at the Sutton Fair a couple of weekends ago and saw a fight in the beer tent. It was white guys. Is their race really relevant? It didn't even make the local paper. I guess that was just part of a pro-white cover up?

The fact that people buy into the fear and race hate they are selling proves their is a market for that garbage. Because you sure can't call what he wrote journalism.

He has a racist, and perhaps xenophobic, agenda he is advancing. The First Amendment gives him an opportunity to publish that kind of stuff. It doesn't mean people with a brain have to take it seriously.

It seems the author of the subject article was trying to point out that modern media is hamstringed by our cancel culture. The culture that cancels out honest journalists for reporting that a gang of predominantly black young men was raising hell including beating up innocent people. Yes, poverty is a factor in crime but not as much as the absence of fathers in the homes. No fathers around and who will give rambunctious teenage men an attitude alignment? Many of us were the recipients of one-way father-son talks and we are better adults for those.

Of course, being a white male I am not qualified to speak to such problems. So here are black people including Thomas Sowell discussing that the problem is the crime-loving African American culture rather than race. You know, songs like Wet Ass Pussy, and gangster rap glorify criminal acts. Ben Shapiro also discussed the above subject. He's not black but clearly Jewish, an abused minority that overall does not glorify crime.

Candace Owens:

Thomas Sowell:

Also: https://thehayride.com/2022/03/its-not-race-its-culture-thomas-sowell/

Ben Shapiro:

Long Version:

Other Blacks speaking about culture:

If all would report the “whole truth” as a society the problem could be addressed. It will take a generation to solve but if we don’t start the lawlessness will not stop.

As a disclaimer, my charming wife is a black woman born in Zambia. She has many friends in the USA who also migrated from sub-Saharan Africa. 98% of those people and others this group know of honest and hardworking people making their lives better in America. I’ve never had a problem with any of them, nor with her extended family in Zambia. Black Africans are from a different culture that Americans black or white. It seems like American culture of the 1950's. I think most of us see that in our African trackers.

I served in the Marines with many men and women who were better Marines than I, many of them were black. The military was a way of forcing people to judge others for their actions.

 

[Big_Easy]

Chicago is estimated to have roughly 400,000 gang members alone. Roughly half of them are African-American males in the 15-28 "hot zone" for violent crime. Milwaukee per capita is nearly as bad from a crime perspective.

I guess you are unfamiliar with the old expression, “idle hands are the devil’s playground.”

The youth unemployment rate in Chicago is 82% for black, 76% for Hispanic, and 63% for white. For young adults (20-24 age bracket) it is 47% black, 19% for white. Its no coincidence that these teen mobs are occurring during the summer when the kids have fewer activities and structure to keep them busy, and out of trouble.

 

[Brent in Az]

U.S Navy awards Raytheon a $22.9 billion dollar contract for Tomahawk cruise missiles. They are looking to boost production of the missile to over 1000 units per year

 

[RLD]

It seems the author of the subject article was trying to point out that modern media is hamstringed by our cancel culture. The culture that cancels out honest journalists for reporting that a gang of predominantly black young men was raising hell including beating up innocent people. Yes, poverty is a factor in crime but not as much as the absence of fathers in the homes. No fathers around and who will give rambunctious teenage men an attitude alignment? Many of us were the recipients of one-way father-son talks and we are better adults for those.

Of course, being a white male I am not qualified to speak to such problems. So here are black people including Thomas Sowell discussing that the problem is the crime-loving African American culture rather than race. You know, songs like Wet Ass Pussy, and gangster rap glorify criminal acts. Ben Shapiro also discussed the above subject. He's not black but clearly Jewish, an abused minority that overall does not glorify crime.

Candace Owens:

Thomas Sowell:

Also: https://thehayride.com/2022/03/its-not-race-its-culture-thomas-sowell/

Ben Shapiro:

Long Version:

Other Blacks speaking about culture:

If all would report the “whole truth” as a society the problem could be addressed. It will take a generation to solve but if we don’t start the lawlessness will not stop.

As a disclaimer, my charming wife is a black woman born in Zambia. She has many friends in the USA who also migrated from sub-Saharan Africa. 98% of those people and others this group know of honest and hardworking people making their lives better in America. I’ve never had a problem with any of them, nor with her extended family in Zambia. Black Africans are from a different culture that Americans black or white. It seems like American culture of the 1950's. I think most of us see that in our African trackers.

I served in the Marines with many men and women who were better Marines than I, many of them were black. The military was a way of forcing people to judge others for their actions.

It's an open debate as to where fatherlessness fits via poverty and education.

But if you look at the issue of violence, youth, poverty, education and fatherlessness are all better indicators of violence than race. Clearly. But he wants to call them a "black mob", not an youth mob (like the regular media does) or an uneducated mob, or a fatherless mob (because they honestly don't know) or a mob of poor people. He goes for the race baiting.

If we are being hamstrung on the violent crime issue, it is by people who want to simplify it to race, and refuse to recognize all of the issues you actually agree are the problem.

Lawlessness comes from poverty, education and broken homes. Not the colour of someone's skin.

Pity Tyler Durden is more concerned about ranting about not calling out blacks, when the colour of those people skin is irrelevant.

I guess there were reasons Google deplatformed them.

 

[RLD]

I guess you are unfamiliar with the old expression, “idle hands are the devil’s playground.”

The youth unemployment rate in Chicago is 82% for black, 76% for Hispanic, and 63% for white. For young adults (20-24 age bracket) it is 47% black, 19% for white. Its no coincidence that these teen mobs are occurring during the summer when the kids have fewer activities and structure to keep them busy, and out of trouble.

I'll go back even further:

"Poverty is the mother of crime."

 

[Mark A Ouellette]

I'll go back even further:

"Poverty is the mother of crime."

Thomas Sowell identifies that prior to the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and the creation of welfare, black two-parent households were in higher percentage than whites. Even with the prejudice of that era, black crime and perhaps ghetto poverty was not nearly as high as that of today.

As I stated above, those of us whose father’s had to re-align our thinking are better today because of it. As a young enlisted Marine, the last thing I or my peers wanted was to be summoned to present ourselves to the Sergeant Major (senior enlisted person in the command). If that Sergeant Major was black, in general he was much scarier than most white Sergeant Majors. Perhaps it was their James Earl Jones voice that would shiver our timbers! The black senior enlisted leaders seemed to me to be not only fierce, but also more caring and mentoring to us Marines who would take our heads out of our asses.

Most young men need older good men to guide them. Without fathers in the home, who does that?
For my liberal-leaning AH colleagues, didn’t your father ever have to correct your thinking or behavior?

Fatherless statistics:

https://wifitalents.com/fatherlessness-statistics/

https://www.nolongerfatherless.org/statistics

https://politifact.com/factchecks/2...hn-duncan-jr-says-90-percent-felons-grew-fat/

Statistics do lie but rates of 85% or better USA prisoners coming from fatherless homes doesn’t change to less than 50%.

If poverty is the mother of crime, fatherlessness is the mother of poverty. Or maybe fatherlessness causes together both poverty and criminal behavior?

 

[LivingTheDream]

mob of poor people

How would he know they are poor?

If I saw a mob causing havoc, I wouldnt immediately go wow look at what the poor people are doing?

 

[RLD]

How would he know they are poor?

If I saw a mob causing havoc, I wouldnt immediately go wow look at what the poor people are doing?

Well he can see they are young and the author suggested media were up to something because they used that descriptor instead of race.

As I said above, if there is a fight between white guys should be be talking about "white mobs"?

If the author is educated he knows that crime better aligns with poverty than race. But for some reason he thinks race is the part that should be reported. If they mostly wearing running shoes why not call them a Nike mob? If they have short hair are they a crew cut mob?

At least shoes and hair involve choice or culture.

Nor does he say...oh it's about men. Because the vast majority of the people in the fight are men. So it was a male mob right?

Maleness and violence are more strongly connected than race. But it is a "black mob" right?

 

[PARA45]

I've been biting my tongue not to answer, but I couldn't resist any longer.

Poverty in North America = Car, home with electricity, may even have heat and air, roof doesn't leak, running water, sewer, TV, and I'm sure a cell phone.

Poverty south of the border. Wood or metal shack, no running water, no electricity, no sewer, leaky roof.

Those who have never gone outside our borders, don't know what true poverty is. Poverty is not an excuse, but it's used every day, instead of pointing at the true issue. Personal accountability!