Politics

[Tundra Tiger]

“TACO” is frankly stupid… anyone that believes his brash, bully, loud mouthed, etc personality also supports a “chicken” clearly isn’t paying attention or is desperate for something to bitch about…

Trump is a lot of less than desirable things… but what exactly does anyone think he is afraid of?

Telling Americas closest allies to get their shit together or face consequences?

Tell Americas closest trade partners to get their shit together or face consequences?

Is he afraid of Iran? Drug cartels? The media? DEI embracing leftists?

Is he worried about possibly saying the wrong thing out loud? Or maybe potentially offending someone with a rude comment or a mean tweet?

Who is it exactly that he has run from?

Making insane initial demands then relenting when the other side makes moves in the direction you want them to go and not continuing to make insane demands isn’t exactly the same thing as running scared…

The issue with Trump isn’t that he runs away from anything.. it’s that he runs wide open into shit, then changes direction mid negotiation…

Which, as has been stated a million times before, is nothing new… he learned it from his father, and had been consistently doing it since the 1970’s…

I’d say that since he turned his daddy’s NYC focused successful business into a global multi billion dollar empire, managed to get himself elected president twice.. has pushed Europe into participating in its own defense at an acceptable level for the first time in decades.. has pushed trade partners into positions that have improved the US economy both times he’s been in office… etc etc… that the evidence shows he is anything but “chicken”… chickens don’t engage in fights to begin with…

You don’t have to like the man… I personally don’t care for him much at all… but failing to recognize what he has done (and not done) and listening to disingenuous leftist tripe and democratic talking points is silly…

You can’t think he’s a bull in a china shop, reckless and uncontrollable, and at the same time think he’s nothing more than a mouse that roars… it’s one or the other… not either or at the time of your choosing…

Maybe not afraid... but his deference to Putin is, IMHO, maddening and puzzling. Maybe it's not fear but neither is it asserting that he's the alpha.

 

[mdwest]

I have yet to have him change any direction vis a vis Ukraine. He has always been Putin's mouthpiece even before the election, so much that I really wonder if Putin has something on him.

Or an even worse and despicable possibility is that he just wants to raid Ukraine's natural resources and sees placating Putin as a way to do that.

I don’t disagree with either of things.. he’s openly said several times that he respects Putin… and he’s made it clear that he thinks Zelensky would better serve Ukraine if he were still a stand up comic rather than its president…

Neither of those things have anything to do with him being afraid of either of them..

China is a far larger military and economic threat than Russia and Ukraine combined… and he’s constantly taking pokes at Xi (many unnecessarily)..

 

[Tanks]

And yet Obama and Biden both capitulated to their demands over and over again… to the tune of releasing literal plane loads of cash to them, reducing sanctions, etc..

Yes. It amazed me how those two did not hit back. As I said Iran could not do much to us and those two for whatever reason seemed to let Iran run amok.

I wasn't saying what Trump did with Iran was wrong. All I said was there was no risk.

 

[mdwest]

Maybe not afraid... but his deference to Putin is, IMHO, maddening and puzzling. Maybe it's not fear but neither is it asserting that he's the alpha.

That I agree with… just when I think I’ve got Trump figured out on Putin, I find out I’m wrong again.. it’s puzzling as hell…

 

[Tanks]

Maybe not afraid... but his deference to Putin is, IMHO, maddening and puzzling. Maybe it's not fear but neither is it asserting that he's the alpha.

I think it is the basest of emotions. Democrats and Biden supported Ukraine, so he must support Putin. Thinking with his ego. And Putin knows how to play Trump like a fiddle; they probably have a book's worth of a psychological profile on Trump.

 

[mdwest]

I think that is a very strong possibility…

If Trump isn’t anything else, he is driven almost entirely on ego…

 

[Brent in Az]

I think it is the basest of emotions. Democrats and Biden supported Ukraine, so he must support Putin. Thinking with his ego.

Democrats supported Ukraine for the financial kickbacks. I'm sure many offshore accounts could verify that

 

[Saul]

I think it is the basest of emotions. Democrats and Biden supported Ukraine, so he must support Putin. Thinking with his ego. And Putin knows how to play Trump like a fiddle; they probably have a book's worth of a psychological profile on Trump.

Just like how Trump pushed the TikTok ban until Biden supported it…and he got a big donation from a TikTok investor.

 

[Tanks]

Democrats supported Ukraine for the financial kickbacks. I'm sure many offshore accounts could verify that

Kinda like Zelensky's yacht and his wife's jewelry?

 

[RLD]

“TACO” is frankly stupid… anyone that believes his brash, bully, loud mouthed, etc personality also supports a “chicken” clearly isn’t paying attention or is desperate for something to bitch about…

Trump is a lot of less than desirable things… but what exactly does anyone think he is afraid of?

Telling Americas closest allies to get their shit together or face consequences?

Tell Americas closest trade partners to get their shit together or face consequences?

Is he afraid of Iran? Drug cartels? The media? DEI embracing leftists?

Is he worried about possibly saying the wrong thing out loud? Or maybe potentially offending someone with a rude comment or a mean tweet?

Who is it exactly that he has run from?

Making insane initial demands then relenting when the other side makes moves in the direction you want them to go and not continuing to make insane demands isn’t exactly the same thing as running scared…

The issue with Trump isn’t that he runs away from anything.. it’s that he runs wide open into shit, then changes direction mid negotiation…

Which, as has been stated a million times before, is nothing new… he learned it from his father, and had been consistently doing it since the 1970’s…

I’d say that since he turned his daddy’s NYC focused successful business into a global multi billion dollar empire, managed to get himself elected president twice.. has pushed Europe into participating in its own defense at an acceptable level for the first time in decades.. has pushed trade partners into positions that have improved the US economy both times he’s been in office… etc etc… that the evidence shows he is anything but “chicken”… chickens don’t engage in fights to begin with…

You don’t have to like the man… I personally don’t care for him much at all… but failing to recognize what he has done (and not done) and listening to disingenuous leftist tripe and democratic talking points is silly…

You can’t think he’s a bull in a china shop, reckless and uncontrollable, and at the same time think he’s nothing more than a mouse that roars… it’s one or the other… not either or at the time of your choosing…

But I think it is fair to wonder about his not particularly aggressive handling of Russia. I really don’t get that.

 

[Brent in Az]

Kinda like Zelensky's yacht and his wife's jewelry?

And Zelnskyy's inner circle embezzlement that was recently revealed. They are all crooked to the core.

 

[RLD]

And Zelnskyy's inner circle embezzlement that was recently revealed. They are all crooked to the core.

Which means their country should cease to exist?

 

[Brent in Az]

Which means their country should cease to exist?

Did I say that?

 

[Brent in Az]

Just like how Trump pushed the TikTok ban until Biden supported it…and he got a big donation from a TikTok investor.

Google "Trump TikTok deal". It will shed some light on situation.

 

[CoElkHunter]

“TACO” is frankly stupid… anyone that believes his brash, bully, loud mouthed, etc personality also supports a “chicken” clearly isn’t paying attention or is desperate for something to bitch about…

Trump is a lot of less than desirable things… but what exactly does anyone think he is afraid of?

Telling Americas closest allies to get their shit together or face consequences?

Tell Americas closest trade partners to get their shit together or face consequences?

Is he afraid of Iran? Drug cartels? The media? DEI embracing leftists?

Is he worried about possibly saying the wrong thing out loud? Or maybe potentially offending someone with a rude comment or a mean tweet?

Who is it exactly that he has run from?

Making insane initial demands then relenting when the other side makes moves in the direction you want them to go and not continuing to make insane demands isn’t exactly the same thing as running scared…

The issue with Trump isn’t that he runs away from anything.. it’s that he runs wide open into shit, then changes direction mid negotiation…

Which, as has been stated a million times before, is nothing new… he learned it from his father, and had been consistently doing it since the 1970’s…

I’d say that since he turned his daddy’s NYC focused successful business into a global multi billion dollar empire, managed to get himself elected president twice.. has pushed Europe into participating in its own defense at an acceptable level for the first time in decades.. has pushed trade partners into positions that have improved the US economy both times he’s been in office… etc etc… that the evidence shows he is anything but “chicken”… chickens don’t engage in fights to begin with…

You don’t have to like the man… I personally don’t care for him much at all… but failing to recognize what he has done (and not done) and listening to disingenuous leftist tripe and democratic talking points is silly…

You can’t think he’s a bull in a china shop, reckless and uncontrollable, and at the same time think he’s nothing more than a mouse that roars… it’s one or the other… not either or at the time of your choosing…

Excellent analysis. For better or worse, like him or his policies or not, Trump is as transparent as the clear cold blue winter sky after a storm. I too don’t agree with a lot of his policies/actions/opinions, but at least he’s done what he stated he would do during his presidential campaign and was overwhelmingly elected to do so. How many leaders in other countries can say that? Most, including those in the U.S., will tell their constituents whatever they want to hear in order to get elected and then turn on them for their own benefit. Trump has MANY faults, but we ALL knew that before we elected him for a SECOND Presidency and IMHO, he is much better than the alternative of quasi Socialists and Marxists that we see attempting to destroy the U.S. from within and permeating as leaders of the many countries we’ve called allies in the past.

 

[Rocked and Loaded]

Maybe not afraid... but his deference to Putin is, IMHO, maddening and puzzling. Maybe it's not fear but neither is it asserting that he's the alpha.

It could just be as simple as him being a businessman rather than a warrior at heart. He’s not an idealist and doesn’t particularly care about Ukraine. It’s possible that in his mind a prolonged war is a waste of resources while abandoning Ukraine outright is untenable politically. From that perspective a brokered peace that he can claim as a personal victory makes sense, even if it’s to detriment of Ukraine.

On the other hand, Putin is a warrior at heart and Trump doesn’t really know how to handle that. He does have ideals so Trump can’t negotiate like he would with a peer. He doesn’t care about lost resources or lost business opportunity.

 

[LivingTheDream]

Well, the Republicans also have been pushing "Russia is bad" narrative since before I was born, and I am old.

Weren't you born during the cold war? Just saying.

To more modern times, Romney did say during a debate that Russia was our biggest political adversary. McCain also didnt exactly have nice things to say as well so fair point.

 

[roverandbrew]

If the survivors are hors de combat, do you think they are a legal target?

Obviously neither one of us has seen the full video of the attack, but it sounds like this one might have gone over the line.

If we do not physically have them under US control and the CONOP was approved to destroy personnel and equipment I see them as a legal target as long as we have PID.

 

[spike.t]

Putin 'morally responsible for Dawn Sturgess Novichok death'

Dawn Sturgess, 44, died in 2018 after coming into contact with the nerve agent Novichok.

www.bbc.com