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  1. Mort Hill

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    Amen, and amen again Ed. Seems like the old mold that those of us who call ourselves “mature” were cast from has been lost or deemed outdated. Too bad, because our children and grand-children are in for a rough ride and a rude awakening. It pains me for them.
     

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    If we could populate Congress with the average AH citizen we'd be way ahead.
     
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  3. C.W. Richter

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    America still produces some of the finest hunting and target rifles there are. They are not advertised in the media, as it's not necessary. Bansner, Hart, Borden-the list is fairly long. We have developed some of the finest shooting cartridges on Earth. It's how my formerly English and German ancestors got our country out of the hands of the Brits, Germans and the RCC! :p Our hunting product sales will not suffer-we have the most hunters and gun enthusiasts on the Planet! And, it's very much appreciated by our great white hunters conveniently and proximally located to the north...We want to hunt-not discuss politics while doing so. It's one of the golden rules of things not to talk about in certain company. Plenty of political forums out there for you to blow off steam on with the others...Trump wants less reliance on other countries-it's better for our economy in the end. We export quite a bit of what others need (ag products, foodstuffs, etc. etc. etc.), so it's not going to stop any day soon-as it's a need. Regarding guns and hunting accessories, I'm not certain how much we really export in that department, but the lion's share is sold in N. America. The guns you refer to are black plastic Coca-Cola sold in every store here. They are accessible to all, but the finest ones you have to pay for. Do I like fine English bolt and double guns? Yes. Do I need them to get the job done? Absolutely not. We have the finest (most accurate, weatherproof, reliable) semi- and fully-custom bolt guns here, for Le$$. I have seen more African PHs carrying American guns than those from anywhere else. I'm sure they'll just trade them in, too, at the mere suggestion. Perhaps, based upon your sentiments, Americans need to consider hunting more at home? ;) This wouldn't affect anything would it? :p Just remember this fact: American hunters abroad care not about politics (sans a few politicians that are pretending to hunt,) and contribute the greatest amount of money to those countries as a result. You mustn't consider what some government types and the media vomits out to be the sentiments of the American people, let alone the 15,000,000 hunters here. I'm not certain the world hunting indu$try $hare$ your $entiment$? 4 of the big 5 are tariffed pretty steeply, but you don't hear us complaining about it. :p Work on problems closer to home like liberal British Airways not allowing hunting equipment...But, if you must, cut off the Americans. We can hunt freely, proudly, safely, and with our own guns, here. We hear so much about politics in our fake, libdem-owned media in the USA-there's just no need for it in a forum dedicated to the great sport of hunting. Only issues that directly have an effect on hunting are of concern to most of us. It's why we are here. You should be very concerned about the future of the UK and EU. Seems to me it's nearly entirely becoming a much larger example of our (failed) liberal, out of control immigration SF and NYC experiments. CN's got its own issues, but most of its businesses (Ag, Auto, Sports, Oil/Gas, Beverages, etc.) are directly tied to America. It's not going away any day soon. The US government has graciously spent way too many of our hard-earned dollars, disproportionally funding worldwide projects (UN, et. al.) We must first look after ourselves. But, if you wish to help, please ask your Governments to push back against the Democrats and the American Media (as perhaps the costs spared by reducing big government would once again be available for such philanthropy!) You do realize they waste our $ here, yes? Trump is trying to trim the Roland & Ward budget and debt here, by any means possible...Once under control, outside issues can once again be tabled...

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  4. Bullthrower338

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    I was going to run for a seat but figured I’d make Kavanaugh look like he got a fair shake!
     

  5. C.W. Richter

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    Unions (overpriced), libDem over-regulation and the 1%'ers club sold a lot of American Industry out, to Asia. He's trying to rein that back in.
     
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  6. C.W. Richter

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    What Red Leg says about Canada is spot-on. lol Our brethren to the north. I was going easy-most companies are in-fact American! Auto, Beer, Sports, Ag, Hotels, etc. and we Americans have no problem with Canadians at all!
     

  7. C.W. Richter

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    Oh boy, a PH who shall remain nameless, just coincidentally sent me a text with a meme of a baby and the phrase Made in VaChina-just to rub it in. :p
     
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  8. sgt_zim

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    The socialists in this country look back to the post-war period, the taxes, the growth of regulation, and believed that they were the cause of our successes. The fact is that for about 40-50 years after WWII, the USA was the only productive game in town. Politically, it really didn't matter what we did because one either bought American, or one did without. Then the 80s hit, and we found ourselves with competition from Japan and northern Europe; and with emerging markets in Korea and China, markets with very cheap labor. Forty years after the Korean War, South Korea recovered and began their ascension.

    The socialist think they can keep milking the cow the same way they did from the 40s to the 80s. It's a different world now.

    If we should survive so long, the next great economic boom will be from the country whose citizenry realizes that 95% of government is not only superfluous, but counterproductive and anti-economy.

    Just imagine what would happen to the US economy if we did away with the corporate income tax. Literally every business in the world with the capitalization to do so would domicile themselves here. Imagine what that would do to unemployment numbers, and imagine what that would do for wages.

    A guy can dream.
     

  9. C.W. Richter

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    War is also a strange, for-profit game...and out of it comes Reparations-The U.S. trained many an engineer and re-built many a more modern factory abroad as a result of "winning" wars, and thusly, they handed over the keys to the kingdom...
     

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  11. Brent in Az

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    It's quite frightening how these Socialist frauds pander to the low information voters. Anyone with a shred of economic intelligence should see right through the deception. Only the lazy & clueless, would ever support someone like Sanders or Warren. Wall Street and the 1% never would.
     
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    Big trouble for Biden, Bloomberg is entering the race. Hopefully, he'll galvanize all the 2nd Amendment supporters to get out and vote against this megalomaniac in the primaries.
     
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    Check your sources - The really funny part is that the hecklers were actually intolerant far right extremists!
     

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    @Longwalker that was the case at Berkley university, the meme refers to the view...but yeah apparently he is the middle of it.
     

  18. Brent in Az

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    I don't think so, Mr. liberal.
     

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    When a Colonel knows foreign policy, and how to run a country better than an elected president.

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    Is this finally, the beginning of the end of "The Marshall Plan"




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    Leverage – EU Pledges Increased U.S. Investment in Effort to Avoid U.S. Auto Tariffs…
    Posted on November 11, 2019 by sundance
    Funny stuff amid headlines discussing the likelihood of President Trump postponing a 25% tariff on European autos. What the pundits are missing is how President Trump has positioned a myriad of trade dynamics that make EU action unavoidable. This is the fun stuff, so let’s enjoy the details.

    The current headlines surround President Trump “postponing” a 25% tariff on EU automobiles as an outcome of the major EU manufacturers (mostly Germany) promising increased investment in their U.S. operations. By itself this would be considered a win for President Trump, but that’s not the whole picture, not even close.

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    What the more broad trade and manufacturing dynamic includes will explain what EU economists are only just now starting to realize. Yes, the major European auto-makers will put more investment into the United States (thereby lessening the EU industrial economy); however, the auto decision is not because they are presenting a magnanimous benefit of sorts, but rather it is a foregone conclusion; an unavoidable reality due to a previous trade agreement construct.

    Within the USMCA agreement President Trump negotiated a win-win-win for Mexico, Canada and the U.S. through a requirement that 75 percent of North American auto content must originate from manufacturing within North America. Failure to reach that threshold means the auto company will be subject to a 25 percent tariff to bring the product to the U.S. market.


    Example: Seeking to exploit the previous NAFTA loophole BMW recently opened a $2 billion assembly plant in Mexico. However, as soon as the USMCA was announced; and once they saw the loophole closure; BMW also had to announce they would open up a new engine and transmission manufacturing/production facility in the United States.

    The USMCA deal meant BMW could not bring German transmissions and engines into Mexico for assembly. The origination requirements changed the dynamic of their production plan; and as a consequence their investment plan.

    Keep in mind the steel and aluminum tariffs already exist. Most trade partners with the U.S. are operating under exemptions, waivers, provided by President Trump and his trade team. Those waivers can be withdrawn at any time.

    The only time the Steel and Aluminum tariffs are gone permanently, is when the nation signs into an official trade agreement with the United States. [Keep this nugget in mind] All U.S. trade agreements also forbid the partner country from participating in transnational shipping of steel and aluminum.

    Additionally, President Trump instructed USTR Lighthizer and Commerce Secretary Ross to use the leverage created within the USMCA (auto sector), in combination with the Steel and Aluminum tariffs, as pressure points -leverage- in all trade agreements with Korea, Japan, China and the EU. [Auto sector 232 tariffs]

    Does it work?

    Well, two examples: (1) South Korea opened up the KORUS deal to renegotiation specifically to avoid those tariffs (think Hyundai and Kia). The new KORUS deal positioned greater benefit to the US. (2) Japan opened up their market to U.S. agriculture exports in large part to avoid those tariffs (think Nissan, Toyota, Mazda etc.); and that became the framework for the recently signed U.S-Japan trade agreement.

    So yes, it works.

    That same leverage principle is at play with the EU. Germany must avoid U.S. auto tariffs at all costs. Additionally, Germany and the EU industrial companies, writ large, want to keep their waivers from Steel and Aluminum tariffs. However, Germany cannot avoid the tariff structure within the USMCA. President Trump has the EU over a barrel.

    As an outcome of the USMCA, Germany was already going to have to manufacture content in the U.S. in order to avoid auto tariffs. Germany is not going to be able to bring German parts into the U.S. and assemble in U.S. made vehicles. They are going to have to produce more auto parts inside the U.S. The issue is a matter of timing.

    As soon as the USMCA is ratified, Germany is going to have to make their U.S. investment. However, with the USMCA not yet ratified, President Trump has deployed the 25% auto tariff threat directly. This forces the EU to make their already unavoidable auto investment in U.S. manufacturing faster than they would like.

    So there’s some nuggets of truth within the New York Times article:

    The president has not yet announced a decision, and there is no guarantee that dangling new investments will stop him from imposing levies. Mr. Trump has repeatedly criticized Europe for flooding the American market with cars while limiting imports of United States vehicles.

    […] Some analysts say Mr. Trump and his advisers are more interested in the leverage the specter of auto tariffs creates than in actually imposing the levies. They have been willing to threaten tariffs to extract concessions in negotiations with Japan, South Korea and Europe.

    Mr. Trump could decide to try to preserve his leverage by extending the deadline to make a decision. That would be frustrating for European officials, who say the trade war’s uncertainty has been dragging down economic growth. Germany, whose economy depends on car making, is on the brink of recession. (read more)

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