Politics

[Big_Easy]

Because I dont care about Paul Pelosi, or whatever that debate is about.

When you say first responders are letting people die and bragging about it, yes I will call you out on that.

But thanks for the omission that you lie and exaggerate in your posts.

So the standard by which you hold someone too is determined by whether or not you care about the topic of discussion? Thank you for admitting that you believe in and enforce double standards on here.

 

[Big_Easy]

How about a duct taped outdoor print or a BassPro calendar on the wall of his momma's basement?

How recent does it have to be?

 

[Big_Easy]

I honestly haven't a clue how you ones that "interact " with these ones have the patience to go through everything and write it up..... me and patience...mmm nope only a fuse with bout 0.5 second burn....hats off to you ones

Patience is a virtue.

 

[Big_Easy]

I think the reverse applies too. I know too many who take the position that nothing the administration does can be wrong.

I wonder how many positive things Fox News said about the Biden administration? Or the Obama administration for that matter?

 

[LivingTheDream]

So the standard by which you hold someone too is determined by whether or not you care about the topic of discussion? Thank you for admitting that you believe in and enforce double standards on here.

Yes I only respond to conversations I care about.

When Brett posted a headline saying Trump was looking into the unseen profits of oil companies, I called that headline out as false.

How about this for double standards, coming on a hunting forum when you dont even hunt.

 

[Brent in Az]

I wonder how many positive things Fox News said about the Biden administration? Or the Obama administration for that matter?

Well, Troll boy, there certainly isn't anything positive to say about the two worst presidents in history.

 

[Rafiki]

From his most recent press conference (alongside Zelensky):

Trump: "One of the things I talked to [Putin] about was 'Where would you want to meet?' And he said 'Ideally in Moscow.' I said 'You're not going to meet in Moscow.'… <looks over at Zelensky> Would you go to Moscow?"

Zelensky: "It's difficult. There are a lot of Ukrainian drones there."

Now that's funny

 

[Altitude sickness]

Look at Denmark--they decided they could not extend the welfare system to unlimited immigrants. It is an economic impossibility, as many nations are discovering. Our own people won't vote to give up benefits, so we have no choice by to eliminate them for newfound freeloaders.
That alone will solve the Immigration crisis. They will stop coming for freebies.

Qatar has a well managed immigrant work program. The 300,000 Qatari citizens do not work.

Foreign managers run things and are very well compensated.

Then there are the laborers. They must be sponsored by a Qatari citizen. And if they are not working are immediately sent home.

 

[Tanks]

Look at Denmark--they decided they could not extend the welfare system to unlimited immigrants. It is an economic impossibility, as many nations are discovering. Our own people won't vote to give up benefits, so we have no choice by to eliminate them for newfound freeloaders.
That alone will solve the Immigration crisis. They will stop coming for freebies.

Contrast it with Spain where the PM legalized about 1.5M migrants by a decree. They will also be able to travel to EU and work there because of it. They also eliminated criminal records from disqualifying them. Other EU countries are not happy about it.

 

[Brent in Az]

So the standard by which you hold someone too is determined by whether or not you care about the topic of discussion? Thank you for admitting that you believe in and enforce double standards on here.

What matters it? You leftists have no standards...

 

[Big_Easy]

Talk about a straw man argument - the phrase you so much love to throw around. Let's break it down.

I can acknowledge this part about the first question is at least worded accurately in your assessment (albeit lacking some critical context). @mdwest did reply to @RLD 's question about how many go to jail for this type of crime, and the response was "a lot" with a source that did not detail punishment statistics for hit and runs. ... It also goes on to expand (aka, provide context) his reply to say Paul Pelosi should be held accountable to the same standard as everyone else. This does not say he must go to jail, he thinks he should be in jail, or anything about jail; it simply says punished to the same standard for the crime committed.

Wrong - the 2nd question posed to mdwest was (post 78760, so you can see it for yourself) "are you buying the theory that the guy with the hammer was Pelosi's lover...? --- there was no question asked about age/disability, only a statement made, right after calling out credentials. more on that next.

And, mdwest did reply to this actual 2nd question.

Meanwhile, you're caught lying again. Who's gaslighting now?

This is just plain stupidity at it's finest.

Again see Post 78,760 (pg 3938) - RLD says "Oh, and I don't know how much you interact with the criminal justice system but..." --- This VERY MUCH is him calling out mdwest for a lack of knowledge of the US criminal justice system. To which, mdwest replied with some credentials backing up his familiarity and knowledge of the system.

Even after seeing those credentials, which you acknowledge seeing, you still say you're going to call him out for a lack of knowledge? I repeat - stupidity at its finest.


Where, exactly, did mdwest suggest that age or disabilities are non-factors, or doesn't know anything about it? If you're trying to reference post 78775, what is actually said is that age/disability has no factor in his position that the law should be applied equally.

Hold your breath while you wait, please. At the same time, I will not hold mine while eagerly awaiting your apology to @mdwest for your bullshit.

It's difficult to know which is a statement and which is a question by @RLD, as some of his wording seems to imply a question, but omits a question mark. Perhaps he is not one for proper terminal punctuation. Here is @RLD original post:

RLD said:
"Funny, my research says that almost nobody goes to jail for hit and run offences on empty parked cars. The truth is almost nobody goes to jail in California for a hit on run on an empty parked car.

Oh, and I don't know how much you interact with the criminal justice system but age and disability are certainly relevant considerations on sentencing. Whether you like it or not.

And I have to check. Are you buying the theory that the guy with the hammer was Pelosi's lover or just standing by silently while the victim slander is spewed?"

There are 3 items here:
1) People don't go to jail for simple PDO hit-and-run offenses,
2) @mdwest interaction with the criminal justice system, specifically with regards to age/disability in sentencing, and
3) Brent's bat-shit crazy conspiracy theory about the guy that hit Pelosi with a hammer.

@mdwest first reply did not in any way discuss item #1. Regarding item #2, did it ever occur to you that @RLD may have been genuinely interested in @mdwest knowledge of the criminal justice system? And that he may have believed that @mdwest was unaware that age and disability are taken into account during the sentencing of a defendant? Considering that @mdwest responded with his resume regarding his experience with the criminal justice system, I assumed that is how he took it as well. But only @RLD and @mdwest can answer that. Regarding item #3, @mdwest answer can only be described as a steaming pile of hot garbage. The gaslighting occurred during @mdwest second reply:

I did not call out @mdwest for a general lack of knowledge. I called him out for refusing to answer @RLD regarding using age and disability during the sentencing of a defendant. As I just stated in my post to someone else. Someone with 30 years of experience in criminal justice would know that age and disability are generally taken into account during sentencing. As @RLD said..."I wonder why you [he] chose to ignore that?"

"Where, exactly, did mdwest suggest that age or disabilities are non-factors".....Right here. This is his quote..."Your red hering about age and disabilities factors is exactly that.. more nonsense"...Does "nonsense" equal "non-factor"..? I tend to think so. But maybe you don't. Perhaps the wording is too subjective.

Age, disability, and/or a prison sentence was the whole point of the entire discussion thread (oh, plus Brent's nutty conspiracy theory about Pelosi). @Brent in Az said that Pelosi should go to jail for the hit-and-run. @RLD correctly pointed out that sentencing guidelines take age and disability into account, and that even if they didn't, they don't call for jail time anyways. @mdwest chose to gaslight, shit-talk, and insult @RLD rather than engage in a meaningful debate ABOUT THE TOPICS OF THE POST. That is the other reason I am calling out @mdwest. You all keep accusing me of being a troll, but refuse to call out bad-behavior by others.

@mdwest opintion's weren't the topic of the post.

 

[wesheltonj]

@Big_Easy, please decide if you want to discuss FEDERAL or STATE offenses, or do you just want to mix them to best suit your argument?

And just how many “hit and runs” are on federal property, with others vehicles. Military reservations, post office parking lots, National Parks?

Again, looking forward to your hunt report.

 

[Hunt anything]

Platner quits the Maine senate race,

 

[Russ16]

I wonder how many positive things Fox News said about the Biden administration? Or the Obama administration for that matter?

That’s pretty much my point. We are now in a world of shirts and skins. Everyone’s own side can do no wrong and the other can do no right.

The fact is bit do good things and bad things. I just support the one that I think forms more of the good and less of the bad. But no party or president is flawless.

 

[cwpayton]

A mission from Whiteman or Ellsworth to strike a target in Iran is a 20-30 hour sortie for a two-man crew. To sustain a B1 over that type of range takes six to eight tankers - more outward bound than homeward due to the ordnance load (more and bigger bombs equals less fuel). Moreover, those tankers have to fly from basses along the way if they are going to carry enough fuel to matter to a bomber (US, UK/Europe, and the Middle East). A two ship mission could double the number of tanker sorties.

That sort of demand upon crew, strike aircraft, and the tanker fleet can only be maintained a relatively short time. Hence, the need for regional basing, regardless of the exact location is essential for any sustained operation.

Our critical national interests - unhindered access to natural resource zones and trading partners - does not change, but the local politics that affect basing rights constantly do so. Hence, we are constantly testing the soil for other options. For instance, I participated in the initial negotiations to secure Al Udied Air Base as the location for the CENTCOM forward headquarters in 1999/2000. For playing wack a mole with terrorist organizations it has proven invaluable, but in a conflict with Iran, having the regional headquarters on the frontline is less than ideal. Qatar recently agreed to a 10 year extension of the Defense cooperation agreement which includes a $38 billon Qatar funded hardening of the site. Still, it will remain vulnerable as a staging hub for air assets.

Again, from open sources and simple military operational and logistics assumptions, an operating base in East Africa would be far easier to defend from any Iranian attack while also providing direct overwatch of the other major regional navigational choke point bordering Yemen.

Succint and complete

 

[spike.t]

US and Iran exchange fire for second day as Tehran says 'breaking promises no longer cost-free'

Earlier Donald Trump said the US would "hit them hard again", after the two countries exchanged fire the previous night.

www.bbc.com

 

[Tundra Tiger]

"Who has peace talks resume Friday!"

 

[Tex .416]

“CENTCOM said that 90 Iranian military targets had been hit ” including air defense systems, coastal surveillance assets, missile and drone storage sites, naval capabilities, and military logistics infrastructure along Iran’s coastline”.”

US conducts new wave of strikes on Iran as ceasefire falters

Second night of strikes comes after Trump says ceasefire 'over', but suggests talks for lasting peace will continue.

www.aljazeera.com

Can someone please explain why we do not unleash around the clock sorties until the IRGC and all Iranian military capacity is removed from the face of the earth?

 

[KJE81]

“CENTCOM said that 90 Iranian military targets had been hit ” including air defense systems, coastal surveillance assets, missile and drone storage sites, naval capabilities, and military logistics infrastructure along Iran’s coastline”.”

US conducts new wave of strikes on Iran as ceasefire falters

Second night of strikes comes after Trump says ceasefire 'over', but suggests talks for lasting peace will continue.

www.aljazeera.com

Can someone please explain why we do not unleash around the clock sorties until the IRGC and all Iranian military capacity is removed from the face of the earth?

I would think that it is because the stockpile of stand-off weapons was so diminished by the previous around the clock sorties earlier this year: https://www.csis.org/analysis/last-rounds-status-key-munitions-iran-war-ceasefire