New USA requirements in addition to the form 4457

[brushmore]

This is great news. I am supposed to be having a conference call with one of Rep Salmon's staffers in Washington today. Likely this will not be necessary now, but will update you all on what transpires.

I think it's still necessary. There's still lots of issues with these new requirements in my opinion.

 

[PHOENIX PHIL]

I think it's still necessary. There's still lots of issues with these new requirements in my opinion.

Agreed. I'd like to keep an eye on the long term solution mentioned in Brickburn's post.

 

[Areaonereal]

So I assume the "original paper process" as stated in the last paragraph of the Senator Hoeven announcement is alluding to the 4457 form and nothing else? Not specifically stating such, leaves me wondering what we actually are required to have for the CBP requirements.

 

[robertq]

To show you how all this works.
I was on a call with James Swanson who is the chief import/export officer for CBP in Washington.
He stated the process is in full swing and all poets will be operating with in a mount.
THEN about a hour ago I got this email about what Brickburn poster.....
Goes to show (who's on first) Great job Brickburn. Life is good again...

 

[BRICKBURN]

Just sent an email to the Commissioners office asking for clarification or comment on the news release.
We'll see if I get anything back.

 

[BRICKBURN]

To show you how all this works.
I was on a call with James Swanson who is the chief import/export officer for CBP in Washington.
He stated the process is in full swing and all poets will be operating with in a mount.
THEN about a hour ago I got this email about what Brickburn poster.....
Goes to show (who's on first) Great job Brickburn. Life is good again...

Mike70560 found this one.
I am just cut and paste man!

 

[robertq]

Dam, do I hate spell check.....
Hope you all got the message.

 

[ornery]

 

[lcq]

Apr 23 2015
Hoeven: U.S. Hunters No Longer Required to Register With IRS to Take Personal Firearms on International Hunts
Senator Secures CBP's Commitment to Return to Previous Travel Forms
WASHINGTON – U.S. Senator John Hoeven, chairman of the Department of Homeland Security Appropriations Committee, today announced that the U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) will no longer require U.S hunters traveling internationally to obtain an IRS identification number in order to bring personal weapons on hunting trips outside the U.S. At a meeting early Wednesday with U.S. CBP Commissioner R. Gil Kerlikowske, Hoeven secured a commitment from the agency to return to the paper process used by international hunters for years, while updates are made to the automated reporting system for exporting weapons. Kurlekowske said the agency’s web site would be updated later today.

“Hunters should not have to register as a business with the IRS in order to bring their weapons and ammunition on international hunting trips,” said Hoeven. “This is an unnecessary and burdensome requirement on law-abiding citizens. We appreciate that CBP has recognized this and will return to their original forms for international hunters, while they update their automated system to recognize the difference between a commercial exporter and a sportsman traveling on a hunting trip to Canada or another country.”

CBP recently began enforcing regulatory changes from 2012 requiring U.S. hunters to comply with commercial export requirements when transporting firearms outside the U.S. for personal use. Under these requirements, in order for a U.S. hunter to take personal weapons to another country temporarily, the individual would have to register the weapon in the Automated Export System (AES) and provide a transaction number to CBP.

The AES is designed for commercial exporters and requires all users to obtain an Employer Identification Number (EIN) from the IRS in order to access the system. CBP has acknowledged that forcing hunters to obtain an EIN is not appropriate. Under the agreement reached this week, the agency will allow international hunters to use the original paper process while CBP works with the Department of State on an appropriate long-term solution.



http://www.hoeven.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/news-releases?ID=274eb6ef-cf8f-4ebe-9c15-b5fb71a76999

This would never have happened in Canada. Once bureaucrats get their hooks into another intrusive tax sucking program they never let go. There is nothing more dangerous than a bureaucrat firmly entrenched behind his desk defending his turf.

 

[johnnyblues]

Robert keep us posted and some definite news!

 

[robertq]

I just got off the phone with our Fish and Wildlife Attorneys,
Rick had stated that until it's on the CBP website it's not official....
So if you have a ITN# take it with you just in case......

 

[BRICKBURN]

.............
Rick had stated that until it's on the CBP website it's not official....
..

Exactly why I sent an email to the CBP Commissioner asking for comment.
Until the front line knows the deal you can get a hassle.

 

[johnnyblues]

Glad I have some time Robert before I leave for Namibia....Hopefully this crap goes away. One more battle to win.....No import in NY port! Gotta kill that!

 

[robertq]

Boy, I love this we have a Army......

 

[robertq]

Johnny,
Our Attorney is working on it....
He told me they have the ear of a NY senator.

 

[johnnyblues]

Let's hope he's not hard of hearing!

 

[lcq]

Johnny,
Our Attorney is working on it....
He told me they have the ear of a NY senator.

Hillary ?

 

[johnnyblues]

God forbid!

 

[JimP]

I received a phone call this afternoon from my Representative Scott Tipton of Colorado with the good news, and here I thought that he had forgotten me after I contacted him a few weeks ago when thing thing broke out.
I do agree with Robert at SSI, that until the front line troops know about it to tread lightly until it is written in stone.

 

[wesheltonj]

The read between the lines is, once they code the AES software to get around the EIN requirement, it will be back.