New Model 70 7x57 need some recommendation!

Discussion in 'Up To .375' started by frog stealer, Jul 25, 2013.

  1. ActionBob

    ActionBob AH Legend

    Joined:
    Dec 12, 2011
    Messages:
    2,724
    Video/Photo:
    11
    Likes Received:
    3,331
    Location:
    Central Minnesota
    Member of:
    NRA, DSC, SCI
    Hunted:
    Minnesota, Texas, South Africa, Zimbabwe, Mozambique, British Columbia
    Vette;
    If you really want the Hornady Superformance loads, see if you can get interbond bullets rather than SST's. I'm no expert but my PH really liked the GMX's and Interbond was his next choice. I used 129 grain Interbonds with great success. Our PH hunts with the Hornady guys so gets lots of expieriance with their products on plains game.

    My old Hornady catalog lists the SST as ideal for Whitetail to Caribou and similar sized African game. Good for classic behind the shoulder and soft tissue shots. The Interbond says it is designed to expand immediately but retain more than 90% even through tough hide and bone.

    But with good shot placement, I'm sure either will do the job.
     
  2. flatwater bill

    flatwater bill AH Enthusiast

    Joined:
    Jun 16, 2013
    Messages:
    388
    Likes Received:
    307
    Member of:
    NRA endowment member
    Hunted:
    NAMIBIA, RSA, KYRYG, KAZAKSTAN, MOZAMBIQUE,MEXICO, BOLIVIA, PERU, BRAZIL, ARGENTINA, CANADA, NEW ZEALAND, AUSTRALIA, SPAIN,
    "I could never see one whit of difference between game shot with the 140 grain or 160 grain in this caliber"...Jim Carmichael

    FWIW..............................FWB
     
  3. PHOENIX PHIL

    PHOENIX PHIL AH Ambassador

    Joined:
    Apr 15, 2009
    Messages:
    6,562
    Video/Photo:
    23
    Likes Received:
    4,087
    Member of:
    SCI
    Hunted:
    USA, S. Africa
    After a long hot summer ended with a move to a different home, my garage is taking shape and with it my new reloading bench. Finally, this week I started up loading again. Somewhere along the line I picked up some H4350 and wanted to give it a try in the 7x57 with the same 140gr North Forks and all other aspects the same as above.

    Loads started centering in nicely at 48gr and tightened up slightly at 48.5gr giving a group similar as above. Chrono average of 2730fps. No sign of pressure whatsoever. So, I'm going to keep bumping up the load until the group opens or start seeing pressure signs.
     
  4. sestoppelman

    sestoppelman AH Legend

    Joined:
    Apr 25, 2010
    Messages:
    4,298
    Video/Photo:
    80
    Likes Received:
    1,763
    Member of:
    NRA, NA Hunt Club
    Hunted:
    Tanzania, Botswana, Zimbabwe (2), Namibia (2), South Africa (2)
    My shooting buddies just call me, "start at max and work up from there!":eek::D:ROFLMAO:
     
  5. PHOENIX PHIL

    PHOENIX PHIL AH Ambassador

    Joined:
    Apr 15, 2009
    Messages:
    6,562
    Video/Photo:
    23
    Likes Received:
    4,087
    Member of:
    SCI
    Hunted:
    USA, S. Africa
    There's a simple cure for that. Stick a bolt so hard it requires use of a 2x4 and hammer to unstick it. And when the brass comes out, the primer pocket is more of a primer trench.
     
  6. sestoppelman

    sestoppelman AH Legend

    Joined:
    Apr 25, 2010
    Messages:
    4,298
    Video/Photo:
    80
    Likes Received:
    1,763
    Member of:
    NRA, NA Hunt Club
    Hunted:
    Tanzania, Botswana, Zimbabwe (2), Namibia (2), South Africa (2)
    Nah, that was my dads old trick. Don't want to steal his thunder!:rolleyes:
     
  7. PHOENIX PHIL

    PHOENIX PHIL AH Ambassador

    Joined:
    Apr 15, 2009
    Messages:
    6,562
    Video/Photo:
    23
    Likes Received:
    4,087
    Member of:
    SCI
    Hunted:
    USA, S. Africa
    Good call, I left brass on the bolt face the one time I did it. Once was good enough for me.
     
  8. JohannS

    JohannS AH Senior Member

    Joined:
    Dec 27, 2011
    Messages:
    74
    Video/Photo:
    6
    Likes Received:
    22
    Hunted:
    South Africa and USA
    I have a 7x57 and its my all time favorite caliber. You just purchased one of the best 7mm mausers in production that i have seen recently. Good bullets can do anything and I tend to stay with 140gr with all plainsgame species including the Eland. Your 160gr would work even better since there will be more penetration and I will say the the 175gr bullets put kudu dead in its tracks and will work wonders on eland. You dont have to take your 416. I only see people wounding/missing plainsgame with calibers like that.
     
  9. PHOENIX PHIL

    PHOENIX PHIL AH Ambassador

    Joined:
    Apr 15, 2009
    Messages:
    6,562
    Video/Photo:
    23
    Likes Received:
    4,087
    Member of:
    SCI
    Hunted:
    USA, S. Africa
    Tweeked with my load a bit and this is what I get:

    48.7gr of IMR4350
    CCI BR-2 Primers (Fed 150's will work too)
    Norma Brass
    COAL set at SAAMI ( 3.065")
    2850fps

    image.jpg
     
  10. Witold Krzyżanowski

    Witold Krzyżanowski AH Legend

    Joined:
    Oct 27, 2013
    Messages:
    2,828
    Video/Photo:
    8
    Likes Received:
    1,227
    Location:
    Trzebiatów
    Member of:
    1977; Polish Hunting Assotiation
    Hunted:
    Namibia, Zimbabwe
    I use cartridges 7x57 from RWS with bullet ID CLASSIC 10,5g /162gr.
    Witold
     
  11. bassasdaindia

    bassasdaindia AH Elite

    Joined:
    Aug 23, 2012
    Messages:
    1,190
    Video/Photo:
    6
    Likes Received:
    623
    apologies to open this old thread :

    my M70 Super Grade 7x57 arrived , I am truly ecstatic with this rifle .

    please give me more info on these rifles with regards to how many did Winchester manufacture in 7x57 and where they limited or not ?
     
  12. matt85

    matt85 AH Legend

    Joined:
    Jan 7, 2014
    Messages:
    2,328
    Video/Photo:
    1
    Likes Received:
    1,325
    Location:
    WA, USA
    Hunted:
    USA, South Africa, and Namibia
    Winchester no longer manufactures the M70 in 7x57. I used to have one but it had barrel issues and when I sent it back for a replacement I was told I had to pick a different chambering because they no longer made the 7x57.

    -matt
     
  13. PHOENIX PHIL

    PHOENIX PHIL AH Ambassador

    Joined:
    Apr 15, 2009
    Messages:
    6,562
    Video/Photo:
    23
    Likes Received:
    4,087
    Member of:
    SCI
    Hunted:
    USA, S. Africa
    Quite certain it was a limited run, they're not advertised on their website anymore. Don't know how many they made though. Fun gun to load for and shoot! I'm a bit envious you have one I must admit.
     
  14. bassasdaindia

    bassasdaindia AH Elite

    Joined:
    Aug 23, 2012
    Messages:
    1,190
    Video/Photo:
    6
    Likes Received:
    623
    thanks Phil

    I found one in the US and had it imported to SA , I am really stoked with the rifle , my question to all is really how many super grades in 7x57 Mauser were manufactured ?
     

Share This Page