My Bucket List Problem

[wesheltonj]

Sorry I wasn't clear, the Safari is pampered with the wife. The hunting I'm looking for no fence and hard hunting. I grew up hunting elk in the western US. I maybe able to talk my wife into a Safari closer to my hunting area - maybe that would work.

I would think this is a common ask with hunters bring wives that want to Safari first - maybe not.

Is that safari with the wife have to be with Elewana in Kenya?

 

[dgtlclose]

First let me say thank you for taking the time to offer up such good feedback. I will research all the comments and locations you have suggested. I'm been a member on several other hunting sites for years, and well, sharing detailed information openly seems to be going the way of old school IMHO. Let me address a few questions from the above.

- Whats a hard hunt? I'm still good to "embrace the suck" (some may not get this comment) I just enjoy a bit less of it than when I was 30 years old. I'm plan on using up some boot leather as needed. However if that Sable is 500 yards in the brush from the truck - that works for me also.
- Pay a bit more to improve the Environmental Management of wildlife. I believe we're environmentalist first, and hunting is the personal outcome of doing that. I support paying a bit more if thats the outcome, as in really the outcome.
- Why Sable as my first Africa pick, just case I'm draw to them and taking a very nice quality mature representation is the goal. I prefer quality over quantity of harvest. However, as opportunity calls I'll be ready for most options within the area I'm hunting.
- Own Gun, I have a new (old school deluxe wood) Weatherby 7mm mag I'd love to test out - however factor in a Safari and travel I'm fine to use the PH's rifles. Thats what I did in NZ and it was fun to shoot something different.
- Camp Comfort, some Give and Take here, see notes above on me spending hunting time on a photo Safari. WE will enjoy a safe, clean tent/bed camp or better.
- Spend, still working this out as my hand starts to shake as I type and say, just get the thing booked.
- When to go, I've read that Oct / Nov is best less water, burns, better glassing.

Again thank you all, and nice to be part of AH in starting this planning.

 

[dgtlclose]

Is that safari with the wife have to be with Elewana in Kenya?

Unless I can convince her of something better (as in the website needs to look better also) - I'm working with her sister and the wonderful stories from just getting back fresh off her lips. Open to suggestions.

 

[wesheltonj]

Unless I can convince her of something better (as in the website needs to look better also) - I'm working with her sister and the wonderful stories from just getting back fresh off her lips. Open to suggestions.

(1) I have no idea if you can store a firearm in Kenya if you take your own. You may have to fly to where you are hunting, store it there and then fly to Kenya for that trip and then back to wherever you are hunting. (2) I've looked at their website, those are not "cheap" camps or hotels. So if your going to spend that kind of money, I would suggest Tanzania. You can get a 10 day license, you will be limited on what game you can harvest. However, Qatar flies into Kilimanjaro, you could store your gun in Ashura and fly get a flight to Nairobi from either Kilimanjaro or Ashura and return. In the north of Tanzania you can transfer by vehicle, a lot cheaper then a charter.

 

[rookhawk]

I’d do Vic Falls, Zim. You can do a pampered 5-Star stay at the Old Victoria Hotel and all the tourist things, do Hwange national park and the Falls, then slip off into the bush for a week to do a wild hunt for Buffalo at a place like Save or the Bubye.

 

[dgtlclose]

(1) I have no idea if you can store a firearm in Kenya if you take your own. You may have to fly to where you are hunting, store it there and then fly to Kenya for that trip and then back to wherever you are hunting. (2) I've looked at their website, those are not "cheap" camps or hotels. So if your going to spend that kind of money, I would suggest Tanzania. You can get a 10 day license, you will be limited on what game you can harvest. However, Qatar flies into Kilimanjaro, you could store your gun in Ashura and fly get a flight to Nairobi from either Kilimanjaro or Ashura and return. In the north of Tanzania you can transfer by vehicle, a lot cheaper then a charter.

Sound advise and given this, I plan on just using the PH guns I believe most offer this as an rental option. That solves this problem.

 

[dgtlclose]

I’d do Vic Falls, Zim. You can do a pampered 5-Star stay at the Old Victoria Hotel and all the tourist things, do Hwange national park and the Falls, then slip off into the bush for a week to do a wild hunt for Buffalo at a place like Save or the Bubye.

I'll offer this up as an option any suggestions on a PH in Save or Bubye? Maybe thats stated above someplace. Thank you.

 

[rookhawk]

I'll offer this up as an option any suggestions on a PH in Save or Bubye? Maybe thats stated above someplace. Thank you.

Any of the high-quality PHs in Zim can gain access to Save or Bubye. Vaughan Whitehead-Wilson and John Sharp come to mind. Lin Stanton too.

 

[Mtn_Infantry]

I'll offer this up as an option any suggestions on a PH in Save or Bubye? Maybe thats stated above someplace. Thank you.

From Vic Falls you can also tour Chobe NP, shoot over into Zambia and a few other areas, plus do some fishing. All 3 Zim PH’s mentioned above are good to go. I’ve personally hunted with one of them but know several others.

If you go to Zim in Oct/Nov it’s going to be HOT. Water will be scarce but you’ll really get to embracing the suck if you want. You’re also up against the coming rains which can dramatically change your hunt if they start.

If you’re not familiar with it, you might want to look-up Rovos Rail. Your wife might enjoy something like that as you get to see several areas/cities and it adds some old Africa rail mystique, with a great 4/5 Star Experience.

Tanzania is a dream hunt for most of us, and if it’s in your budget you can’t go wrong.

Feel free to send a PM if you have some additional or more specific questions. As stated before I’ve hunted Zim, Namibia, South Africa, am booked for Zambia next year and trying to put the final details on Mozambique and put it to bed.

 

[375Fox]

First let me say thank you for taking the time to offer up such good feedback. I will research all the comments and locations you have suggested. I'm been a member on several other hunting sites for years, and well, sharing detailed information openly seems to be going the way of old school IMHO. Let me address a few questions from the above.

- Whats a hard hunt? I'm still good to "embrace the suck" (some may not get this comment) I just enjoy a bit less of it than when I was 30 years old. I'm plan on using up some boot leather as needed. However if that Sable is 500 yards in the brush from the truck - that works for me also.
- Pay a bit more to improve the Environmental Management of wildlife. I believe we're environmentalist first, and hunting is the personal outcome of doing that. I support paying a bit more if thats the outcome, as in really the outcome.
- Why Sable as my first Africa pick, just case I'm draw to them and taking a very nice quality mature representation is the goal. I prefer quality over quantity of harvest. However, as opportunity calls I'll be ready for most options within the area I'm hunting.
- Own Gun, I have a new (old school deluxe wood) Weatherby 7mm mag I'd love to test out - however factor in a Safari and travel I'm fine to use the PH's rifles. Thats what I did in NZ and it was fun to shoot something different.
- Camp Comfort, some Give and Take here, see notes above on me spending hunting time on a photo Safari. WE will enjoy a safe, clean tent/bed camp or better.
- Spend, still working this out as my hand starts to shake as I type and say, just get the thing booked.
- When to go, I've read that Oct / Nov is best less water, burns, better glassing.

Again thank you all, and nice to be part of AH in starting this planning.

I don’t think you’ll find a camp in Africa you won’t be happy with by North American standards. Nearly all camps have a professional cook and a trained camp staff. Daily laundry and beds made is standard. This was camp I just finished hunting from in Zimbabwe. It about standard for what I’ve seen from an outfitter that owns the concessions they hunt. We had a combination of elephant, lion, and leopard in camp depending on the night. I’d go before October November. It will be extremely hot 100-110 every day. Mid-July through September is usually a good compromise on visibility, temperature, and remaining quota depending where you are going. By November a lot of PG quota may have already been used up by previous hunters but you can also get some great end of season deals if there is still significant quota left.

 

[375Fox]

I'll offer this up as an option any suggestions on a PH in Save or Bubye? Maybe thats stated above someplace. Thank you.

Both save and bubye are regarded as great hunting areas but neither are known for their sable hunting.

 

[Firebird]

Don’t they call October in Africa “suicide month” with good reason?!

 

[rookhawk]

Both save and bubye are regarded as great hunting areas but neither are known for their sable hunting.

You’re correct. But he said “and / or buffalo”. If he was dead set on a +Sable there are several places in Zim that have high fence sable.

 

[PANTHER TRACKERS]

We just did New Zealand, see my intro. Now Africa is next on my Bucket List for 2025 and I have a Big Problem. Yup, my wife's sister just returned from Safari with Elewana in Kenya and well she's convinced that our hunting trip needs to first include a repeat of the sisters trip.

So, as I still work for a living and vacation time leaves me around 10 days in say Tanzania, Zambia or Mozambique without spending more flight time. Thus, from the research I've done so far I've leaning towards north Mozambique maybe because I think its going to be a better value, but I'm just guessing on that.

I like the feel of Mozambique type of country, wild and remote. New Zealand will be the last time I hunt a fenced type of landscape - that was a bit more shopping than hunting and not so much for me.

Game - top of my list is a Monster Sable, other Plans (Buffalo, if I see one I really like, and of course I will like one).

Any Problem Solvers, willing to offer up suggestions on how to do a pampered Safari and Quality Hunt in less than 20 days?

Steve

Hi Steve,

You’re definitely looking in the right place for an authentic East African hunting safari.

With your permission, I can send you a DM with comprehensive information about hunting in Mozambique and the many diverse options it offers. Right now, this destination provides some of the best hunting experiences at a fair market price, featuring great camps, wild landscapes, and a rich history.

P.S. The Sable is a local icon in Mozambique!

 

[Flipper Dude]

Took my wife with me to the Zambezi Valley for buff and elephant in October because I wanted to “experience” it. I experienced it all right. Still hear about it from time to time. That was 10 years ago.

 

[JKO HUNTING SAFARIS]

Good day

We have done a similar hunt just a few weeks ago for our clients in Canada and we will be able to help you in Mozambique.

We have a buffalo / sable package on special price at the moment.