I bought this Isaac Hollis 8 Bore Big game rifle - no clue what to load

Great idea! Always tried to think of ways of building up the front sight without affecting the originality of the rifle. Will be interesting to see how flat that ball actually shoots.
 
According to LoadBook trajectory tables ........

25 yards = +3.10" = 1518 ft/lbs ME
50 yards = +5.06" = 1479 ft/lbs ME
75 yards = +4.31" = 1445 ft/lbs ME
105 yards = +0.25" = 1405 ft/lbs ME
125 yards = -5.58" = 1370 ft/lbs ME
 
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Impressive. Not a lot of velocity but tons of momentum looking at those ME values.
 
That is a slick way of getting a bit more height from a front sight

In a big round ball or conical wonder what the Tko numbers are:A Bulb:
 
Today I also added a pin to keep the wedge captive in the stock so it won't get lost. Next trip to the range will test the increased height of the front site.
 
Well, back from the range. With the front site raised, and a slight increase in powder, here is the result.

0 yards = +0.00" = 1795 ft/lbs ME
25 yards = +3.50" = 1748 ft/lbs ME
50 yards = +6.30" = 1682 ft/lbs ME
75 yards = +6.60" = 1632 ft/lbs ME
100 yards = +4.60" = 1585 ft/lbs ME
125 yards = +0.00" = 1541 ft/lbs ME
150 yards = -7.60" = 1500 ft/lbs ME

http://www.buckstix.com/buckpics/8bore-targ-1.jpg

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Throw a roll of quarters in there for home defense!
 
Wish i had seen this post earlier in the year. Im a sucker for 8-bore guns.

@buckstix did you ever find a more precise load for the gun?
 
Wish i had seen this post earlier in the year. Im a sucker for 8-bore guns.

@buckstix did you ever find a more precise load for the gun?
I've fine-tuned the 130g load, and then bumped it up to 145g for an average velocity of 1150fps. That's good enough for me for hunting here in Wisconsin. No need to punish the gun, or me, with a maximum load. :D
 
Same curiosity here. Accurate Molds has been consistently running on about an 8 week back log. But should have received mold by now. Any range report on the big conical/Minie’?

In an historical context, Selous came to detest the big muzzleloaders…
 
Well, I got distracted because Archery Season started in early September and I had to prepare for that. And then I hunted 33 days straight - until finally I had success ... and then I had to play with these 2 new acquisitions ... Hopefully I will get time to test the Accurate Molds bullet some time next month.





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I've fine-tuned the 130g load, and then bumped it up to 145g for an average velocity of 1150fps. That's good enough for me for hunting here in Wisconsin. No need to punish the gun, or me, with a maximum load. :D
Based on your guns weight, i think that is far closer to being a correct load than the heavy DG charges some have been recommending.

I dont believe your rifle is meant to be an elephant rifle. It doesnt appear to be designed for 10+ dram charges with a conical bullet. Least that is my opinion based on pictures and weight (for what thats worth). I like to think of this type of gun as the 338wm of the muzzle loading era. Designed for very large game such as buffalo, moose, bear, etc.
 
Thanks for the reply. I've pictured some of the proofs for interest. There is a small J.N. stamp in front of the wedge cage. I wonder if anyone knows anything about this stamp.

Per suggestion from a different forum, I used an old tapered plum bob with various grit papers (120 to 600) to bevel the muzzle. When I removed the barrel from the stock, I found that the wedge was years ago broken with half missing. (see pics) Not sure if this is a shooting issue or not.

http://www.buckstix.com/buckpics/8bore-proofs.jpg

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I'm late to reading your OP. As a muzzleloader enthusiast here are my offerings of suggestions and comments.

Not sure if this is a shooting issue or not.

For an 8 bore, Yes.

Measure the wedge pin: at base, at tip, the thickness, and the length. You should be able to get a new wedge pin from:

Track of the Wolf
Log Cabin Muzzleloader/Muzzleloading Shop

Send me the measurements and I might have one on hand.

Your solder wedge pin repair may be alright for smaller diameter bores of 40 caliber and below. But for 45 caliber and above, especially using relatively comparable larger volume of 3F and 2F powders....be safe not sorry....purchase a replacement wedge pin.

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Question: Is the barrel "Swamped"

Swamped: acts like a choke. Can be near the muzzle or forward of the center of the barrel. Approximately 3 to 6 inches in length, along the interior of the bore.

All things considered:

1. If your barrel isn't "swamped" go to a .840 or .845 diameter ball using a .010 thick patch.

2. Not necessary to use a felt wad.....some do and some don't......unless shooting shot. Cut the felt wad in half and into thirds test and see which works best: no wad, with half wad, with one third wad.

3. The one patch, lower right looks ragged and burnt. The others look good. Shooting using a wad I am somewhat surprised at the amount of carbon on the patches.
4. As mentioned you might want to opt powder from 2F to 1.5F or 1F.

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Cleaning BP firearms is an art.

At the Range:

I generally use a "wet wipe" moist toilets and swab my long guns after every 5 shots.Followed by 2 or 3 dry patches, then run a patch....lightly, as in almost dry....with bore butter, followed by a dry patch, then "pop" a cap or a frizzen pan of powder to make sure the breech area is dry.

Using a pre lubed, modest amount of bore butter patches with round ball.

After range sessions: all I do is swab the barrel with "wet wipes" until the barrel is clean, usually 2 or 3 wet wipes that have been cut into thirds or fourths depending on caliber and rifle gun or smoothbore. The rifle guns get several strokes using a brass/bronze brush between 2 or 3 wet wipe patches. Then swab the bore with a moderate amount of bore butter on a patch and a light coat of bore butter on the exterior metal parts: barrel, lock, trigger and trigger guard.

Roughly I figure I spend about 20 minutes cleaning my long guns and Colonial Pistol. About 30 minutes cleaning my revolver but that's a whole different process.

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Nice 25 yard group.

Test your results with this load data at 50 and 75 yards. For 25 yards back the charge down to 100 grains and work up or down by 5 grain increments.

Good 50 yard group

Try your load data out to 100 yards.
 

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