Great thread. I cannot contribute anything that hasn't been said. My first out of state hunts were saved for by putting loose change in a jar. I was able to go to Idaho or Wyoming for several years just by doing that. I am also one of those guys that drives an old truck, a 99 Dodge Dakota and didn't have a payment for years. I don't know how many of the young guys that worked out of my office that were just starting their careers and had bigger houses and bigger/newer pickups than I did. Essentially they got the new job and then went to the bank and signed away their life. I recently retired (at 50) and immediately started up a business to earn extra income (for hunting) and to keep myself out of trouble! It is amazing to me how much work there is out there right now if a guy wants to go get it, full or part time. My son-in-law was over last night and happened to see some of my Africa pics rolling through the screen saver on the computer. He left wanting to go to Africa. With 3 little ones, it is going to be hard but it surely can be done. I think I will send him this thread.